TychoMonolyth
Boreal Curing
Not in the country we won't.
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Coronavirus.. outlook
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The freedom to hunt for meat is probably now appreciated more than ever before, by all who are familiar with the aroma of cordite in the forest air.
TychoMonolyth
Boreal Curing
We're omnivores.
I'm all but a vegetarian in the summer. Meat rears it's lovely head the rest of the year.
I'm all but a vegetarian in the summer. Meat rears it's lovely head the rest of the year.
another non-workable solution looking for a problem that it won't solve...everyone is free to become a vegan if they WANT to. me, i'll stick with meat...
Klompen
Active member
As soon as we get lab-grown meat that is affordable, it will change everything. Imagine sitting down for a meal with your parents where you literally eat your own cloned flesh. Seriously though, we could have dino burgers, dodo meat, and all sorts of other oddball proteins. In the future, we're really going to laugh at the notion of raising animals for protein.
Naturalgazda
Active member
another non-workable solution looking for a problem that it won't solve...everyone is free to become a vegan if they WANT to. me, i'll stick with meat...
Hi. I'm talking about vegetarianism. Not veganism. Veganism in its current form is speculation.
As a vegetarian using the energy of meat in the form of milk. You are full and the cow lives on.
It's a big and quite comprehensive topic ....
I tried to give direction ......
Have a nice day.....
Naturalgazda
Active member
So, more precisely, the energy from the blood is the milk itself. A wise man uses the benefits of milk and avoids unnecessary murder of cows. Killing cows has terrible consequences. Mother Nature will punish us for this. And he's already punishing.
Medfinder
Chemon 91
I used it for chiggers...and sand fleas.
250mg every 2 days .your blood is filled with ivermectin 36 hrs after dose decay.
Recap.. California LOCKDOWN!...
Gavin newsome closed cali again.
.[YOUTUBEIF]_S89_8nHSJU [/YOUTUBEIF]
Scientists Discover That One Big Assumption That Everyone Has Been Making About COVID-19 May Be Dead Wrong.
Over the past several months, there has been a tremendous amount of debate about almost every aspect of the COVID-19 pandemic. People have been eager to debate about the severity of the virus, they have been eager to debate about the wisdom of the lockdowns, and they have been eager to debate about the effectiveness of wearing masks. But the one thing that everyone could pretty much agree on is that eventually this pandemic would end. Virtually all of us assumed that one way or another eventually most of the population would develop COVID-19 antibodies and that once we got to that point the pandemic would fizzle out. Unfortunately, it appears that was not a safe assumption to make.
Yes, those that have had COVID-19 do develop antibodies.
But two new scientific studies have discovered that those antibodies start to fade very, very quickly.
For example, a study that was recently conducted in China found that more than 90 percent of COVID-19 patients experience steep declines in COVID-19 antibodies “within 2 to 3 months”…
A new study from China showed that antibodies faded quickly in both asymptomatic and symptomatic COVID-19 patients during convalescence, raising questions about whether the illness leads to any lasting immunity to the virus afterward.
The study, which focused on 37 asymptomatic and 37 symptomatic patients, showed that more than 90% of both groups showed steep declines in levels of SARS-COV-2–specific immunoglobulin G (IgG) antibodies within 2 to 3 months after onset of infection, according to a report published yesterday in Nature Medicine. Further, 40% of the asymptomatic group tested negative for IgG antibodies 8 weeks after they were released from isolation.
And a very large study that was just conducted in Spain found that some patients that had initially successfully developed antibodies “no longer had antibodies weeks later”…
A large study from Spain showed that antibodies can disappear weeks after people have tested positive, causing some to question how possible it will be to attain herd immunity.
A study published in medical journal Lancet showed 14% of people who tested positive for antibodies no longer had antibodies weeks later.
Needless to say, this is absolutely devastating news, and it has very serious implications for vaccine development…
Such findings have implications for vaccine development, since the efficacy of a vaccine hinges on the idea that a dose of weakened or dead virus can prompt your body to generate antibodies that protect you from future infection. If those antibodies are fleeting, a vaccine’s protection would be fleeting too.
Short-lived antibodies also diminish hopes of achieving widespread or permanent herd immunity.
If antibodies can fade in some patients within weeks, and if just about everyone loses them after a few months, that would render any vaccine almost completely useless.
And if these findings are confirmed, we can pretty much forget about ever achieving “herd immunity”.
Instead, we are potentially facing a future in which COVID-19 will be with us permanently, and people will need to understand that there is a possibility that they will be able to get infected repeatedly.
Sadly, there is evidence that this is already starting to happen for some patients. In a recent article for Vox, a doctor in Washington D.C. named D. Clay Ackerly shared that one of his patients got infected with COVID-19 again three months after being infected the first time…
“Wait. I can catch Covid twice?” my 50-year-old patient asked in disbelief. It was the beginning of July, and he had just tested positive for SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes Covid-19, for a second time — three months after a previous infection.
And in that same article, Dr. Ackerly explained that other doctors are starting to see similar cases….
Recent reports and conversations with physician colleagues suggest my patient is not alone. Two patients in New Jersey, for instance, appear to have contracted Covid-19 a second time almost two months after fully recovering from their first infection. Daniel Griffin, a physician and researcher at Columbia in New York, recently described a case of presumed reinfection on the This Week in Virology podcast.
Article from Zerohedge
Over the past several months, there has been a tremendous amount of debate about almost every aspect of the COVID-19 pandemic. People have been eager to debate about the severity of the virus, they have been eager to debate about the wisdom of the lockdowns, and they have been eager to debate about the effectiveness of wearing masks. But the one thing that everyone could pretty much agree on is that eventually this pandemic would end. Virtually all of us assumed that one way or another eventually most of the population would develop COVID-19 antibodies and that once we got to that point the pandemic would fizzle out. Unfortunately, it appears that was not a safe assumption to make.
Yes, those that have had COVID-19 do develop antibodies.
But two new scientific studies have discovered that those antibodies start to fade very, very quickly.
For example, a study that was recently conducted in China found that more than 90 percent of COVID-19 patients experience steep declines in COVID-19 antibodies “within 2 to 3 months”…
A new study from China showed that antibodies faded quickly in both asymptomatic and symptomatic COVID-19 patients during convalescence, raising questions about whether the illness leads to any lasting immunity to the virus afterward.
The study, which focused on 37 asymptomatic and 37 symptomatic patients, showed that more than 90% of both groups showed steep declines in levels of SARS-COV-2–specific immunoglobulin G (IgG) antibodies within 2 to 3 months after onset of infection, according to a report published yesterday in Nature Medicine. Further, 40% of the asymptomatic group tested negative for IgG antibodies 8 weeks after they were released from isolation.
And a very large study that was just conducted in Spain found that some patients that had initially successfully developed antibodies “no longer had antibodies weeks later”…
A large study from Spain showed that antibodies can disappear weeks after people have tested positive, causing some to question how possible it will be to attain herd immunity.
A study published in medical journal Lancet showed 14% of people who tested positive for antibodies no longer had antibodies weeks later.
Needless to say, this is absolutely devastating news, and it has very serious implications for vaccine development…
Such findings have implications for vaccine development, since the efficacy of a vaccine hinges on the idea that a dose of weakened or dead virus can prompt your body to generate antibodies that protect you from future infection. If those antibodies are fleeting, a vaccine’s protection would be fleeting too.
Short-lived antibodies also diminish hopes of achieving widespread or permanent herd immunity.
If antibodies can fade in some patients within weeks, and if just about everyone loses them after a few months, that would render any vaccine almost completely useless.
And if these findings are confirmed, we can pretty much forget about ever achieving “herd immunity”.
Instead, we are potentially facing a future in which COVID-19 will be with us permanently, and people will need to understand that there is a possibility that they will be able to get infected repeatedly.
Sadly, there is evidence that this is already starting to happen for some patients. In a recent article for Vox, a doctor in Washington D.C. named D. Clay Ackerly shared that one of his patients got infected with COVID-19 again three months after being infected the first time…
“Wait. I can catch Covid twice?” my 50-year-old patient asked in disbelief. It was the beginning of July, and he had just tested positive for SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes Covid-19, for a second time — three months after a previous infection.
And in that same article, Dr. Ackerly explained that other doctors are starting to see similar cases….
Recent reports and conversations with physician colleagues suggest my patient is not alone. Two patients in New Jersey, for instance, appear to have contracted Covid-19 a second time almost two months after fully recovering from their first infection. Daniel Griffin, a physician and researcher at Columbia in New York, recently described a case of presumed reinfection on the This Week in Virology podcast.
Article from Zerohedge
Medfinder
Chemon 91
Coronavirus Cases:
13,273,595
view by country
Deaths:
576,496
Recovered:
7,746,787
ACTIVE CASES
4,950,312
Currently Infected Patients
4,891,056 (99%)
in Mild Condition
59,256 (1%)
Serious or Critical
8,323,283
Cases which had an outcome:
7,746,787 (93%)
Recovered / Discharged
576,496 (7%)
Deaths
13,273,595
view by country
Deaths:
576,496
Recovered:
7,746,787
ACTIVE CASES
4,950,312
Currently Infected Patients
4,891,056 (99%)
in Mild Condition
59,256 (1%)
Serious or Critical
8,323,283
Cases which had an outcome:
7,746,787 (93%)
Recovered / Discharged
576,496 (7%)
Deaths
St. Phatty
Active member
in most states, the first 3 months were a TRAINING PERIOD for when the virus is really "at large" in the community, AKA endemic.
Now the US has reached that state, and the US is discovering something similar to what the Chinese learned early on.
They didn't start protecting their health workers until they had all of them wearing eye masks.
it's obvious from the whining in Oregon about face masks, that people are completely un-prepared for the probable reality of the situation.
People need to wear Eye Masks to slow down the spread of current Covid19 mutations.
Oregon just passed a new guideline restricting social gatherings to 10 people - but exempting churches.
so, No Large Weddings ... but of course the virus will keep spreading.
i think the US is
Now the US has reached that state, and the US is discovering something similar to what the Chinese learned early on.
They didn't start protecting their health workers until they had all of them wearing eye masks.
it's obvious from the whining in Oregon about face masks, that people are completely un-prepared for the probable reality of the situation.
People need to wear Eye Masks to slow down the spread of current Covid19 mutations.
Oregon just passed a new guideline restricting social gatherings to 10 people - but exempting churches.
so, No Large Weddings ... but of course the virus will keep spreading.
i think the US is
Attachments
Orange county is going to reopen schools in the fall with no social distancing... thank god
Gavin Cocaine Boss Newsome ... u messed up this time with this Hoax
Gavin Cocaine Boss Newsome ... u messed up this time with this Hoax
Im'One
Active member
Im'One
Active member
So we have asymptomatic transmission, a large
Number of people who refuse any guidance on mask wearing or social distancing and recurring infections. Some hoax.
Medfinder
Chemon 91
Coronavirus Cases:
13,503,653
view by country
Deaths:
582,309
Recovered:
7,892,059
ACTIVE CASES
5,029,285
Currently Infected Patients
4,969,776 (99%)
in Mild Condition
59,509 (1%)
Serious or Critical
Show Statistics
CLOSED CASES
8,474,368
Cases which had an outcome:
7,892,059 (93%)
Recovered / Discharged
582,309 (7%)
Deaths
13,503,653
view by country
Deaths:
582,309
Recovered:
7,892,059
ACTIVE CASES
5,029,285
Currently Infected Patients
4,969,776 (99%)
in Mild Condition
59,509 (1%)
Serious or Critical
Show Statistics
CLOSED CASES
8,474,368
Cases which had an outcome:
7,892,059 (93%)
Recovered / Discharged
582,309 (7%)
Deaths
St. Phatty
Active member
the HOAX is that American citizens pay all these
$$$ $$$ $$$ $$$ $$$ $$$ $$$ $$$ $$$ $$$ $$$ $$$
for 3 letter agencies that "protect us"
BWAHAHA BWAHAHA BWAHAHA BWAHAHA BWAHAHA
NIH
CDC
FDA
DEA
DHS
TSA
FBI
CIA
etc.
/\ they don't protect us.
Fuck Them, Nuke Them, and Bull-doze Them ! ! ! (metaphorically speaking of course)
time to de-fund them ! ! !
Im'One
Active member
But ..even so how about the president? Hes dliberately getting in the way of the agencies who are trying
What does putin pay for civilians?
Klompen
Active member
Russiagate has been debunked pretty thoroughly by this point if anyone bothers to do the research. Yes, the president is bungling all of this and no, it makes no fucking sense at all for Putin to direct Trump to bungle this. There is already some pretty hardcore McCarthyism going on in the media and government right now, and it just doesn't make sense for Putin to do things to validate the witch hunt.
