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right

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Communism is evil m'kay
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right

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Just a quick reference off the top of my head.
Religion is the opium of the masses and the enemy of the state
 

Cannavore

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because the soviet union never achieved communism. it was a totalitarian bureaucracy.
modern western communists pretty much disavow the soviet union and china's version of "communism" which is more accurately described as authoritarian state capitalism.

in the shortest possible way of explaining it, modern communists want to achieve a classless, moneyless, stateless post-capitalist society that eradicates all forms of hierarchical control.
 

right

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We are not talking about a hippie commune .
So let's be realistic. When we say communism we all mean the U.S.S.R.
The technical definition is just something to beat someone else over the head with
 

right

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And what Mr e is talking about in this particular conversation is infact Spanish Communism with free stuff for the poor .
Equity is equal outcome regardless of merit
 

Eltitoguay

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Oh, my poor Chickenhead!
...His mononeuron is exploding...
But you shouldn't take it too hard, because I don't see it as so bad that the US Government collaborates with "us" and for our objectives, once in a million...
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Syrian Democratic Forces - Wikipedia

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People's Defense Units - Wikipedia



I myself maintain a good relationship with several (low-ranking) US soldiers and military personnel, despite our ideological antagonism... (and I already see Chickenhead shouting "North Korean lie; Fox Fact Check!")

Furthermore, those who really read me know that no matter how much I criticize US policy, I believe there are worse evils in the world (more than one created by the US and which subsequently escaped its control: "the dog that bites to its owner").
As little as I like the USA model, I prefer it to what al-Qaeda, ISIS..., or North Korea propose.

And in the face of a common enemy and/or problem, the fight makes "strange" bed allies... (as you should have learned from the article on Franco-Castro trade trying to challenge the naval blockade against Cuba, if you had read it, Fact Chicken).

By the way, Fact Chicken :
later I will show you a video with "Arges Artiaga" joking about the Syrian War, with another volunteer brigade member under his command, and originally from the most deeply white and "red neck", Louisiana (USA)...

Now You will see how you laugh with your gringo "compa", because he is a "mental horny" (in Spanish, someone very funny and sharp)...

In one of the typical "humorous puns" of the other leftist brigade members to the Americans, "Arges" jokes (I don't remember it verbatim) to your compatriot: -"Let's see, gringo, why and why the hell did you come here to fight here with us?...-, and the horny mind of the southern American blurts out: -"Look, "Arges": I was so well and so calmly there in my house, when the news and the people began to say that here in Syria there were very bad people with long beards..., then they said that those with long beards were bloodthirsty terrorists who were massacring people in Syria..., and then that perhaps also the people who had and wore those long beards in my own country USA, maybe they were all terrorists too...: and even though I am very white, I love my very long beard, I came here to put an end to this situation, and to be able to show off my own beard there with peace of mind and pride. ..."

(Note to USA people : it seems like a hoarse and witty response, but I believe it is a parable of their true fears: that by fighting against terrorist Islamism, the United States would regress in freedoms, personal rights, and coexistence between communities... How much this honors and differentiates him from our Cabezapollo, who does not mind selling crack cocaine freely among his compatriots, in order to finance far-right paramilitary terrorist groups...)
 
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right

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By the way, Fact Chicken :
later I will show you a video with "Arges Artiaga" joking about the Syrian War, with another volunteer brigade member under his command, and originally from the most deeply white and "red neck", Louisiana (USA)...

Now You will see how you laugh with your gringo "compa", because he is a "mental horny" (in Spanish, someone very funny and sharp)...

In one of the typical "humorous puns" of the other leftist brigade members to the Americans, "Arges" jokes (I don't remember it verbatim) to your compatriot: -"Let's see, gringo, why and why the hell did you come here to fight here with us?...-, and the horny mind of the southern American blurts out: -"Look, "Arges": I was so well and so calmly there in my house, when the news and the people began to say that here in Syria there were very bad people with long beards..., then they said that those with long beards were bloodthirsty terrorists who were massacring people in Syria..., and then that perhaps also the people who had and wore those long beards in my own country USA, maybe they were all terrorists too...: and even though I am very white, I love my very long beard, I came here to put an end to this situation, and to be able to show off my own beard there with peace of mind and pride. ..."



(Note to USA people : it seems like a hoarse and witty response, but I believe it is a parable of their true fears: that by fighting against terrorist Islamism, the United States would regress in freedoms, personal rights, and coexistence between communities... How much this honors and differentiates him from our Cabezapollo, who does not mind selling crack cocaine freely among his compatriots, in order to finance far-right paramilitary terrorist groups...)
Here is your American crack addict you keep mentioning. Hahaha
 

right

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By the way, Fact Chicken :
later I will show you a video with "Arges Artiaga" joking about the Syrian War, with another volunteer brigade member under his command, and originally from the most deeply white and "red neck", Louisiana (USA)...

Now You will see how you laugh with your gringo "compa", because he is a "mental horny" (in Spanish, someone very funny and sharp)...

In one of the typical "humorous puns" of the other leftist brigade members to the Americans, "Arges" jokes (I don't remember it verbatim) to your compatriot: -"Let's see, gringo, why and why the hell did you come here to fight here with us?...-, and the horny mind of the southern American blurts out: -"Look, "Arges": I was so well and so calmly there in my house, when the news and the people began to say that here in Syria there were very bad people with long beards..., then they said that those with long beards were bloodthirsty terrorists who were massacring people in Syria..., and then that perhaps also the people who had and wore those long beards in my own country USA, maybe they were all terrorists too...: and even though I am very white, I love my very long beard, I came here to put an end to this situation, and to be able to show off my own beard there with peace of mind and pride. ..."



(Note to USA people : it seems like a hoarse and witty response, but I believe it is a parable of their true fears: that by fighting against terrorist Islamism, the United States would regress in freedoms, personal rights, and coexistence between communities... How much this honors and differentiates him from our Cabezapollo, who does not mind selling crack cocaine freely among his compatriots, in order to finance far-right paramilitary terrorist groups...)
You know how much you love me.
With out me this thread would go dark and know one would pay you any mind.
Your nonsense is meaningless
 

Eltitoguay

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because the soviet union never achieved communism. it was a totalitarian bureaucracy.
modern western communists pretty much disavow the soviet union and china's version of "communism" which is more accurately described as authoritarian state capitalism.

in the shortest possible way of explaining it, modern communists want to achieve a classless, moneyless, stateless post-capitalist society that eradicates all forms of hierarchical control.

Not just modern Westerners.

Well, even the two highest leaders of Soviet Marxism-Leninism before Stalin took power, Lenin and Trostky, opposed Stalin: and Trostky was the one who coined "the USSR is not Socialist, it is a degenerated state of workers" , which would lead to state capitalism...

Truly, you cannot believe the many similarities between the economies of ultra-right capitalist dictatorships forced towards autarchy as first part of Franco dictatorship, with the "state capitalism in which a degenerated workers' state has degenerated" of the USSR.
And between the economies of ultra-right capitalist dictatorship with full international trade as was the last part of the Franco regime, with the "state capitalism in which a degenerated workers' state has degenerated" of China.
 
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Eltitoguay

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More than 20 years older than "Paco Arcadio", "Arges Artiaga", did yes have military training in the Spanish Army, which meant that apart from being a "lone" sniper, he was named Head of Special Unit in the front.

"Arges Artiaga"
, upon returning to Spain, faced much more threatening accusations/judicial problems than "Paco"...
and even more so if we consider that "Paco" fought alongside the PKK, and Arges fought with the YPG allied with the USA in the Syrian war.

Although "Paco" has probably killed many more jihadists (mainly due to the very good sniper position he had, which he never moved from, (and, is sayed) which even allowed him to detonate DAESH suicide vehicle bombs practically shortly after get out of your lines) that "Arges", the latter had the problem that its militia, the People's Protection Units (YPG) - Syrian Democratic Forces, and the US army, actively collaborated in its sector of the front.
  1. «Commando cadets from the SDF hone their marksmanship skills in Syria. CJTFOIR continues to work by, with, and through our partners to ensure an enduring defeat of ISIS» (en inglés). Consultado el 2 de febrero de 2020. View attachment 19076616
  2. «France admits special forces operating ground rebels syria» (en inglés). Consultado el 2 de febrero de 2020. French security forces listen to French Interior Minister Bernard Cazeneuve (R), Paris, April 19. French special forces are advising Syrian rebels in their bid to capture Manbij town from ISIS in northeastern Syria. Bertrand Guay/AFP/Getty Images
    French special forces
  3. «SDF, Iraqis Defend Syrian Border Town from IS» (en inglés). Consultado el 2 de febrero de 2020.
  4. «Turquía dice estar dispuesta a atacar a fuerzas kurdas apoyadas por EE. UU.». La Vanguardia. Consultado el 3 de marzo de 2017.
  5. Press, Europa (2 de marzo de 2017). «Una milicia aliada de EE. UU. entregará varias localidades de Manbij al régimen sirio». europapress.es. Consultado el 3 de marzo de 2017.
  6. Press, Europa (10 de mayo de 2017). «Las Fuerzas Democráticas Sirias toman la ciudad y la presa de Tabqa en su avance hacia Raqqa». europapress.es. Consultado el 10 de mayo de 2017. View attachment 19076617
  7. Gatehouse, Gabriel (27 de junio de 2017). «La desesperada lucha por el control de Raqa, la ciudad en Siria donde el autodenominado Estado Islámico estableció su capital». BBC Mundo (en inglés británico). Consultado el 4 de julio de 2017.
    A Kurdish fighter looks out over Raqqa just after an airstrike on the city.
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    Photo caption,SDF forces have managed to reach the limits of the ancient city.
  9. «Cae Raqqa, la capital del califato del Estado Islámico». ELMUNDO. Consultado el 17 de octubre de 2017.
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SFD forces celebrating the taking of the "capital of DAESH".



The most common thing is that Elite Units like "Arges"s one, acted as a ground army and the USA acted as an air army.
A "typical" operation, of which you can see a scene waiting for the air attack in an upcoming video that I will link, would be to position yourself and surround the enemy that was going to be bombed by the USA.
If the USA asked to eliminate beforehand any device and/or person that could be a risk, it was eliminated just before the bombing, as quickly and "as discreetly as possible."
If not, they only waited for the air attack to strike, to finish off the remaining jihadist forces on the ground.

All this collaboration and exchange of information has meant that problably there will be evidence in military documentation of at least 28 of the jihadists directly killed by "Arges" himself, and many others by the soldiers under his command. Apparently, Türkiye (not in Syria, but in the rest of the world, a great ally of the USA) had access to this documentation, and denounced "Arges" before the Spanish National Court for 28 murders (the casualties at his hands that can be documented) and terrorism.

Fortunately for "Paco", "Arges" and others whose identity DAESH and Turkey has managed to reveal and make public, the Spanish Justice has ended up declaring them innocent, or has even ended up rejecting the complaints against "Arges" :

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The Spanish National Court will not judge the Galician militiaman who fought against ISIS​

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"Arges Artiaga", a Galician militiaman who fought against ISIS

'Arges Artiaga', accused of the “murder” of 28 jihadists in northern Syria, claims that “Turkish nationalists threaten us with death for fighting on the side of the Kurds” .

“I will never regret having fought against Daesh in the People’s Defense Units (YPG) because it was a human experience that transformed me internally for the better, but my life has never been the same since I returned from there because of the dirty war waged by the Turkish government of Erdogan against the foreign volunteers who have supported the democratic and confederalist experiment sponsored by the Kurds of Rojava [northern Syria],” says “Arges Artiaga” .

Specifically, this 43-year-old Galician fought as a sniper in the ranks of the YPG from February to June of last year and from October 2015 to last April.

The bulk of the threats, in Turkish and English, have reached him through his Facebook profile, but he is aware that the Turkish press has even published photos of many of the militants along with their names, surnames and addresses, in a clear invitation to be attacked or, at best, harassed.
In the opinion of "Artiaga", any scenario and threat must be taken seriously when it comes from Turkey, given that Erdogan's war against the Kurdish nationalists has entered a frenzied phase where anything goes.
This week, without going any further, the Kurdish activist Mustafa Abdi denounced from Madrid the arbitrary arrests of the co-mayors of the town of Diyarbakir, Gültan Kışanak and Fırat Anlı.

“Arges,”
he tells us, is his nom de guerre.
It was given to him by a Kurdish guerrilla and means “living fire.”
He chose “Artiaga” to shield himself and protect himself from reprisals similar to those that now worry him.
Unlike the two communists who fought in Rojava, the Galician is free without charge, after the National Court ruled that there were no grounds to try him for the twenty-eight murders of jihadists that he was accused of. In the first of the interviews he gave to the Press, Artiaga acknowledged that the deaths of six Daesh terrorists had been confirmed, although judging by his data, the figure was around ten.

As soon as he returned and his participation in the war against the Islamic State was revealed through an interview conducted by VICE editor David Meseguer, not a day has gone by without her being the object of threats, often of death, from the sectors most loyal to Erdogan in Turkish society.
“I have not informed the Spanish police, but inevitably,” she says, “I have had to take some precautions because the facts show that the Ankara government is willing to do anything to destroy Rojava. Although I do not live in a state of permanent paranoia, I fear that something will happen.”


How is it possible that he was charged with 28 homicides if you were talking about a quarter? :

I guess they interviewed people and gave them that number.


In any case, the National Court has definitively dismissed the charges. Were you ever arrested or did you ever go to prison?

No. When I returned from my first stay in Rojava, the police came to talk to me. Afterwards, I went back to Syria, and from that moment on, I kept in touch with them. When I returned from my last trip to Rojava, in April, they summoned me for the next day and told me that I had been charged with 28 murders. A month or two later, the National Court dismissed the charges. The accusation was a close call and the judge saw no evidence of a crime.


A few weeks ago, the PP councillor who also fought in Rojava said that Daesh had put a price on his head… Have you received threats from the jihadists? :

The Islamic State says it is willing to pay $125,000 for the heads of foreigners and $1 million for the heads of volunteers who fought in my unit, the 223rd. I have received a few threats from Islamists, but what really worries me and my colleagues are the Turks – both the government and all the ultra-nationalist elements in their society and all the fanatics who unconditionally support Erdogan and who stubbornly hate the Kurdish people and the Rojava project.



Do you really think that the Erdogan government is splitting hairs so much? :

There is not a single day when we are not addressed in English or Turkish with death threats on social media. I am talking about hundreds of messages. Of course, I don't even read them. Erdogan's government is paying people to wage a dirty war on the networks. They hack accounts and replace the websites with porn shit... Of course, that is not the worst. These people hate us. A Norwegian militiaman had the bad idea of leaving Rojava for Turkey and was arrested and tortured by the Turkish secret services until his government managed to get him out of there.
Right now, Ankara is creating Kurdish paramilitary guards in Anatolia to fuel the dirty war. The fanaticism and radicalism of Erdogan and his supporters knows no bounds. They are to blame for Daesh gaining momentum.
The Turkish borders were a sieve for a long time. Shortly after Kobani fell, a hundred heavily armed men entered the city from the Turkish side and killed two hundred civilians. On the other hand, we fear all these fanatics who support Erdogan more than we fear his own government. I would like to think that Ankara would not be so stupid as to start creating martyrs and further tarnish its international image.


Have you ever regretted going off to fight?:

It is true that, in some way, they are screwing up my life. The fear is there and it is inevitable to adopt certain habits or precautions. But I feel very proud of having been able to live that experience.


And yet, she has decided to speak about her case in the media :

I had no other option, because I live in a small Galician town with 20,000 inhabitants and for some reason, the rumor began to spread that I had been fighting with Daesh. On the other hand, we have managed to keep our name anonymous to date. It was also important to make known what is happening there. That has also been another aspect of our struggle.


Unlike, for example, the two communists who fought in northern Syria, you travelled to Rojava more out of a desire to confront Daesh than out of political motives…

Yes, that's true. I knew little about Rojava. But when I saw what was happening in Kobani and what was happening to the Yazidis, I told myself that I had to do something.
I had some military experience in an elite corps of the Spanish Army and in the French Legion, and I had lost my job as a fish porter at the fish market, so I didn't think twice...


Something changed later, however, when he learned from within the confederalist project that the Kurds are launching :

Yes, that's right. As I learned more about what was going on there, I realized the value of what these Kurds are doing in a war situation. The Rojava project includes everyone: Christian Assyrians, Arabs and the Kurds themselves. It is the only truly democratic experiment in the entire Middle East, despite the very difficult circumstances.


The Turks insist on not drawing any distinctions between the PKK and the YPG.


No country except Turkey considers the YPG to be terrorists. The United States has said openly and clearly that they do not have the same status. On the other hand, the YPG has never attacked Turkey or its interests within its territory.

There are many voices that have denounced human rights violations in Rojava.

The Amnesty International thing was set up by Turkey. It is true that houses have been demolished, but because of the circumstances imposed by the war, and not because any ethnic cleansing of Arabs is taking place.

It seems that Daesh is depriving the Kurdish struggle of its true ideological dimension. Little is said about Rojava and the revolution taking place there :

Rojava is completely forgotten by God and by the European left, which has turned its back on it.
The situation in the press is even worse. One often comes across journalists who are unable to distinguish between a peshmerga and a militiaman. And as for the conservatives and the Western powers, I would say that they are using these poor Turks to stand up to Daesh. We will see what happens to their revolution when the Islamic State falls. It would not be surprising if, when the jihadists fall and are no longer useful, they take on the position of “bad guys.”

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Source: Público
Author: Ferran Barber
Original publication date: 06/11/2016


'Furtivo', the short documentary about life after fighting Daesh in Syria​

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"Sniper Arges Artiaga actively participated as a volunteer in the defeat of Daesh at the hands of Kurdish militias in Raqqa, the bastion in Syria of the self-proclaimed Islamic State.
Three years later, the short film Furtivo explores some of the marks that this experience has left him with."

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"Every year, the Academy celebrates the quality of Spanish cinema by awarding the Goya Awards to the best professionals in each of the technical and creative specialties"

"FURTIVE" : Award Nominated Best Documentary Short Film ; 35th edition of the Goya Awards.​


International Fragments | Furtive

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"FURTIVE" .
By Pedro García Campos, Pol González Novell | Spain | 2020 | 25 minutes :
"After three years of fighting in Syria against the Islamic State, Arges Artiaga travels to the United Kingdom to meet his comrades in arms at the funeral of his best friend, Jac Holmes.
At 43, his life is reaching a turning point."

 
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Cannavore

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So let's be realistic. When we say communism we all mean the U.S.S.R.
no we don't. sorry you're ignorant and using a definition that is decades out of date and not relevant any longer. you're basically arguing a strawman in here.
The technical definition is just something to beat someone else over the head with
it's not a technical definition lmao ideologies evolve. if you think capitalism has remained static and unchanged since it's inception boy do i have news for you.
 

right

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Who is we ?
You would like to argue that actual
Communism hasn't been tried .
It has .The whole world considers the U.S.S.R and communist China and Cuba .
Communist.
It sounds like you had a liberal indoctrination at the hands of a predatory communist professor. Me too but I'm not zapped, I didn't drink the coolaid.

no we don't. sorry you're ignorant and using a definition that is decades out of date and not relevant any longer. you're basically arguing a strawman in here.

it's not a technical definition lmao ideologies evolve. if you think capitalism has remained static and unchanged since it's inception boy do i have news for you.
 

right

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A classless moneyless society. Make believe.
It isn't post capitalism, it's post apocalypse.
Trading dog meat for seashells .Maggie's farm .
Or even more laughable star trek
 

Chi13

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Who is we ?
You would like to argue that actual
Communism hasn't been tried .
It has .The whole world considers the U.S.S.R and communist China and Cuba .
Communist.
It sounds like you had a liberal indoctrination at the hands of a predatory communist professor. Me too but I'm not zapped, I didn't drink the coolaid.
What?
Neither Russia nor China has been communist for literally decades.

I find people from the US so indoctrinated you cannot have a rational conversation about Communism. It's to the extent that I read that free lunches are considered socialism ffs. Do you lot have universal health care yet, or is that another commie threat? You're drowning in coolaid.
 

right

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What?
Neither Russia nor China has been communist for literally decades.

I find people from the US so indoctrinated you cannot have a rational conversation about Communism. You're drowning in coolaid.
China is run by the Chinese communist party.
Again ,many commies would like to argue that real communism was never tried .hahahahahahahahaha
 
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