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Eltitoguay

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to be honest i share most of your concerns , although communism is not the answer and never will be . it is wishful thinking .
i will credit you for being a sincere commie . which is actually quite rare . i have to respect that regardless. you are not the usual champagne socialist at least
!!??...In Spanish it is said that a Socialista should not be confused with a Socialistillo...

THIS IS HOW A REAL SOCIALIST PRESIDENT LIVES :

"My duty is to live as the majority of my people live"

"My austere presidential life is not an anomaly; what should be seen as anomalous is how the vast majority of the rest of the world's presidents live; They live as only a minority of their people can."

"I live by my philosophy. Live as you think; or else, you will think as and as you live"

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Jordi Évole interviews the president of Uruguay José Mujica, in SALVADOS :
"I don't want to use the word austerity anymore because it was prostituted in Europe" José Mujica

There are presidents who live in palaces, who travel in armoured cars, who enjoy domestic service... And then there is José "Pepe" Mujica , guerrilla, congressman, senator and president of Uruguay, currently in the international spotlight for making sobriety, more than a speech, a way of life.

Accompanied by his dog Manuela, he welcomes us to his country house on the outskirts of Montevideo, the place where he has decided to live despite having a Presidential Residence. A mansion that he uses to house the "homeless" in winter and which he has now offered to the UN to shelter 50 Syrian children.

His government has become popular for approving measures such as the legalisation of marijuana and abortion, the approval of gay marriage and, especially, for giving priority to social policies. Mujica is an atypical politician who understands the political disaffection that exists in many countries and criticizes some European leaders for always giving off a "neocolonialist stench."
Jose Mujica

Is there another way of doing politics? Apparently so.

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The life and the house and Presidential Residence of José Mujica:

"My duty is to live as the majority of my people live"

"My austere presidential life is not an anomaly; what should be seen as anomalous is how the vast majority of the rest of the world's presidents live; They live as only a minority of their people can."

"I live by my philosophy. Live as you think; or else, you will think as and as you live"

"I don't want to use the word austerity anymore because it was prostituted in Europe. The economic austerity of the EU
(during the very serious economic crisis of the moment) cannot mean: leaving people without jobs."

"Power should not be about creating a wall that separates you from the rest of the people"

"Here in my little house, I get up at 5 in the morning in my underwear to go to the bathroom, and no one notices nor do I have to bother anyone"


"When same many foreigner journalists come to interview me, I don't know if you come to visit the President of Uruguay, or if you come to visit (like on a photographic safari) an exotic specie"

 
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shiva82

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Do you want to respect me and, consequently, for me to respect you?:

Well, put all your criticisms of my ideas here, but reason them, or rely on articles, and not with memes or childish stupidities.

And in case it saves you time looking for memes about how bad Mao or Stalin was, you should, if not read the texts, at least read the headlines of the multiple articles (by marxist and comunist authors, by the way) I published on the subject, just a few pages back, as I also told Right.
i speak only the facts.

do you work? how do you help your fellow comrades ? other than graffiti on walls?
 

shiva82

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i respect your right to your own opinion . i do not know you as a person, so i would not know if i respect you as a person or not.
 

Eltitoguay

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José Mujica on the legalization of marijuana: "The reactionaries are going to be scared"​

Jose Mujica

  • Author,Gerardo Lissardy
  • Author's title,BBC World
  • 7 mayo 2014

President José Mujica said that the legalization of marijuana in Uruguay is "an experiment" and added that "the backward-thinking people who don't want any change at all will surely be scared."

Mujica made the statements in a telephone conversation with BBC Mundo on Tuesday, the same day he signed the decree that regulated the cannabis law.
The law approved in December by the Uruguayan parliament made this country of 3.3 million inhabitants the first to put the production, distribution and sale of marijuana in the hands of the state.
Mujica said that with the repression of drugs his country was getting worse and now he is trying "a path that is difficult and capable of leaving humanity with a little knowledge."

But he denied that he plans to discuss this issue in depth with his American counterpart, Barack Obama, when they meet on Monday 12 in Washington, "because the country that is selling the most marijuana is the United States."
"The problem is that they don't do it with the spirit of experimentation or anything. They go straight to the market, to sell without a hitch, and that's it," he said, referring to the states in that country that have allowed cannabis for recreational or medicinal use.

Read also: How and who will be able to buy marijuana in Uruguay?

Below is a summary of the dialogue with the Uruguayan president.

T-shirts with marijuana advertising

Given the impression that Mujica is a drug promoter, he prefers to use the word "experiment."

Has Uruguay paved the way for the region to consider itself an alternative to the "war on drugs"? :
First we have to walk a little, live a little. And then take stock and see what things we have discovered that are useful to us and what we have to change. That is why I recommend caution. The regulations of this law have about 100 articles. And it is not at all what some believe: a free pass for people to go out and consume drugs or marijuana at a fast pace.

The fact is that 25 years ago we estimated that there were 1,000 or 1,500 people who consumed drugs and now there are 150,000. And in these 25 years we have repressed, imprisoned people, confiscated shipments and it turns out that the beast continues to grow. That is why we have this problem of regulation.
This has quite sophisticated mechanisms. But should I tell you today that we are on a triumphant path? No, no. We are on the path of an experiment. An experiment carried out with intellectual honesty, but not to promote the spread of an addiction, which like any addiction is a plague.

But you passed the law convinced that this is a better way?:
I am convinced by Einstein's advice: when you want to change things and you do the same thing again, nothing changes. So we have been repressing and persecuting for so many years and we are getting worse and worse, that we start to think of other alternatives. And that is why I use the word experiment.

Looking 10 or 15 years into the future, will Uruguay continue to be a regional exception?:
Despite being almost 79 years old, one has a heart and the ability to dream. If we were capable of discovering some elements that help and that other societies take them, enrich them, we are making a contribution to them. And we also have that intention in the depths of our hearts. Because Uruguay is small and can do things that will cost a big country much more. Because we are not prejudiced. Because we are a secular country. We have always had a certain degree of adventure and, if you like, good liberalism in the deep sense: not economic, but of trying different paths. It was with divorce, with the use of alcohol back in 1915, the recognition of prostitution, etc. It is a characteristic of Uruguay.
We have all this to try out a path that is difficult and capable of leaving humanity with some knowledge.

Marijuana plant in Montevideo

J. Mujica: "We have been repressing and persecuting for so many years and things are getting worse every day, that we are starting to think of other alternatives."

The UN's International Narcotics Control Board (INCB) and the opposition in Uruguay have criticised the fact that the country's population is being experimented on. What is your response?:
But life is an experiment. Only the dogmatic, the sectarian, those who refuse to change anything, can be against the honesty of the word experiment. To live is to experiment, to look for solutions that sometimes work and sometimes don't. Why do we now recognize same-sex marriage and not before? When did we experiment: yesterday or today? Why did we change? And how did slavery leave the world?
It's always been like that. Now, the retrograde diehards who don't want any change at all are sure to get scared. I claim the word experiment.

And what is the parameter to look at to see if this experiment worked well or badly?:
We will see how it expands, whether the number of consumers increases or not, whether the weight of drug trafficking increases or decreases, what happens to us in prisons... Today we probably have at least a third of people who are in prison for matters related to drug trafficking or drugs. We will measure all this statistically. And we will have to draw some social conclusions.
I'm not going to be shocked by the shouts people give me. I have my own way of thinking.

You are going to meet with the US president in a few days. Will this be on the table in the White House?:
I don't think it's much. Because the country that is selling the most marijuana is the US. It's a fact of life; it's massive. But what happens is that they don't do it with the spirit of experimentation or anything. They go straight to the market, to sell without a fight and that's it. (There are) 22 states that are selling.

T-shirt with portrait of Mujica and marijuana


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Eltitoguay

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those pussies do not have the balls to do the graffiti where you suggest . they dress up in matching costumes, meet up, chat shit , make zero progress and tag your gaff instead .

Nah... I'm sure it was same of these Stalin's attack dogs, they have a bit of a obsession with me...

These other graffiti that I found in Portugal (where I go from time to time to work), attributed to Basky, and about The Carnation Revolution ( A REVOLUTION THAT MANAGED TO TRIUMPH AND END IN DEMOCRACY, IN WESTERN EUROPE 50 YEARS AGO ), they are "something else"...

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Flowers as a political symbol, beyond the carnation revolution in Portugal :​

In Portugal, the red carnation acquired great symbolism following the 1974 uprising. However, other flowers have also represented historical events or political movements.​


PART 1 of 2.
Anthropology Wars
Antonio Matos ; Updated to April 26, 2024

We are all aware of the symbolism that the red carnation acquired in Portugal from 25 April 1974, but this was not the only occasion when a flower was adopted as a symbol of a historical event or political movement . In this article, we will look at this and other flowers whose symbolic value, despite the discussions, has populated the imagination of several generations of citizens – Portuguese, American, Azerbaijani, Iranian or Ukrainian.

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Mural alluding to the "Carnation Revolution" attributed to the British artist Banksy in Travessa do Judeu, Lisbon.


CARNATIONS, IN PORTUGAL​

On April 25, 2021, in a redder than usual Assembly of the Republic, the then only deputy of the Chega party declared: “Today the red carnations should be replaced by black carnations to celebrate the mourning of our democracy.”

We were in the midst of a pandemic, and a small number of politicians in the house of democracy considered the celebration of the 47th anniversary of the “Carnation Revolution” controversial, considering that the vast majority of the population could not celebrate the anniversary freely , at least not in freedom of assembly. “From north to south, restaurants, cafes, bars and everything we have opened will close on what is the day of freedom,” continued, from the pulpit of parliament, the leader of the right-wing populist party that in the year of the 50th anniversary of the Carnation Revolution has elected 50 deputies.

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Every year on April 25, Lisbon's Avenida da Liberdade hosts the country's largest parade in honour of the soldiers who made the Revolution.

A couple of years earlier, in March 2019, a group of nurses used this same flower to demonstrate, giving white carnations to the President of the Republic and the Minister of Health in order to point out the negligence suffered by these health professionals. It should be remembered that the National Health Service is considered a conquest of democracy in Portugal.

On social media, in television studios and in newspaper opinion pieces, commentators and political opponents talk about the ceremonies of April 25, identifying the most relevant figures of the State who speak without the carnation in their lapel and analyzing the meaning of this absence .

For example, Cavaco Silva, President of the Republic between 2006 and 2016, never held the red flower and was therefore criticised by his predecessor, Mário Soares. “A historical event always has an immaterial symbolic nature associated with it but which has a material expression, as in the case of the carnation. Symbols are indispensable to structure life and shape the way we face events,” noted the philosopher João Maria de Freitas Branco during Cavaco’s presidency in the newspaper PÚBLICO , recalling that there was no ideological choice in the choice of the carnation, much less its colour , on April 25, 1974. Soares had a thesis and he expressed it loud and clear ten years ago: “President Cavaco Silva never used the carnation. And now we understand why. Because before April 25 he was a Salazarist. Even though he owes so much to the regime that resulted from the Carnation Revolution.”

In fact, the role played by the carnation ( Dianthus caryophyllus , in the case examined) in the revolution that took its name is the result of a coincidence . Due to the frenzy that was taking place in the centre of Lisbon on 25 April 1974, the Sir restaurant , where Celeste Caeiro worked and where she was celebrating her anniversary that day, decided not to open and the employees were sent home with the flowers bought for that celebration. On her way back to her home in Chiado, crossing Avenida da Liberdade, Rossio and Rua do Carmo, Celeste decided to approach a tank and ask one of the soldiers what was happening . After informing him that there was a revolution, the soldier asked Celeste for a cigarette. She, who was not a smoker, offered him a carnation, putting it in the barrel of her rifle. Soon, many other soldiers asked Celeste for a carnation, and she handed them all out. April 25 thus became, almost unintentionally, the Carnation Revolution.

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Graffiti on La Rambla in Palma de Mallorca (Balearic Islands, Spain) in honor of Celeste Cairo, portrayed at her current age


CARNATIONS, OUT OF THE COUNTRY​

During the French Revolution , this flower - which the Greeks believed came from the revenge of the goddess Artemis against a shepherd who had dared to look at her and whose eyes were transformed into carnations as punishment - was used, like other red flowers, by workers who fought against royal power.

This connotation probably led the Bolsheviks to use it, starting in 1917, to identify members of their party . In 2023, 70 years after the death of Joseph Stalin, red carnations were placed near a bronze bust of the former Georgian dictator.

Across the Pacific, the red carnation became a symbol of luck for William McKinley, the 25th President of the United States of America. He had received a red carnation as a gift from a friend and opponent, and after his victory he came to regard it as the source of his luck and never ceased to wear a red carnation in his lapel. The superstitious will say that his offering of his carnation to a girl in Buffalo is related to his assassination by Leon Czolgosz . McKinley died eight days later and his vice president, Theodore Roosevelt, assumed the presidency.

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Every January 20, the Alameda dos Mártires in Baku is filled with red carnations to honor the hundreds of Azeris killed and wounded as part of an act of repression carried out by the Soviet army in 1990.

In Azerbaijan, the red carnation has a very strong symbolic meaning, as does its colour. Known as the “bloody flower”, it is used to remember the dead caused by a repressive action by the Soviet Union against the independence movements in January 1990, and is still used in funerals today.


POPPY, SYMBOL OF THE ARMISTICE AND OF AN ECOLOGICAL PARTY​

The common poppy ( Papaver rhoeas ), and not its congener from which opium is derived, is best known as a symbol of the dead and survivors of World War I , especially in English-speaking countries.

This symbolism derives from the fighting in Flanders during the First World War, where poppies were one of the few flowers that survived in the muddy fields where the fighting took place, and inspired Canadian John McCraea to write a poem about them entitled In Flanders Field . This poem caught the attention of academic Moina Michael, who joined other activists in getting the flower adopted as a symbol of the fallen and wounded in the Great War. Remembrance Day is celebrated every November 11.

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In the United Kingdom, and in other Commonwealth of Nations member states such as Canada and Australia, 11 November is celebrated as Armistice Day (Remembrance Day).

In Portugal, the poppy was chosen ten years ago as the symbol of the Livre party, in keeping with the spirit of the emblem of peace in Europe chosen by Michel. The four petals of its logo represent freedom, the left, democracy and ecology, in accordance with the party's statutes.


ROSES: FROM A SYMBOL OF ROYALTY TO AN IMAGE OF THE SOCIALIST INTERNATIONAL​

As we normally imagine them, roses are very different flowers from their wild counterparts. In Portugal, the Rosa canina is the easiest to find, whose origins result from hybridizations of multiple species of the genus Rosa .

As a symbol, its most famous use is in the logo of the Socialist International , an organization that since 1951 has housed democratic socialist, labor and social democratic parties from around the world, such as the Portuguese Socialist Party.

Although this image, adopted by parties of this extended political family, is very common today, its origin is relatively recent: the logo was created by the French Socialist Party (sometimes attributed to Didier Motchane and sometimes to Georges Sarre), and dates back only to 1979. Later, the Socialist International would also appropriate it, as an international symbol of social democracy . In short, the rose represented the promise of a life and the fist the humanist values of the group.
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On 16 December 2012, the French Socialist Party was present at a demonstration in favour of same-sex marriage in Paris. This is evidenced by the party's brand image, which inspired the logo of the Socialist International.
@Eltitoguay note :
The latter block in italic letters does not coincide with the creation/-adoption of the symbol by the PSOE in 1977, as the article linked said:
"What if the PSOE symbol had not been a fist and a rose?
We all know the fist and rose of the PSOE, but that symbol could have been another: designer Cruz Novillo explains how he created the logo and what other options he considered."


However, long before the Century of the -isms , the rose was the icon of one of the most famous civil wars in history: the War of the Roses, which pitted the English houses of Lancaster and York against each other, two secondary branches of the powerful House of Plantagenet, later represented by a red rose and a white rose, respectively . The red rose of Lancaster was adopted near the end of the conflict, and this association has been further enhanced by the playwright William Shakespeare, among others. The very designation “War of the Roses” would only appear centuries later, in the 19th century. After the conflict, the new king, Henry VII, adopted as his symbol a union of both flowers, the so-called “Tudor rose” in homage to his father, Edmund Tudor, who gave his name to the new dynasty.


TULIPS, BOTH IN THE NETHERLANDS AND IN IRAN​

Tulips (the most popular domestic versions of which are Tulipa gesneriana) are usually associated with the Netherlands, not only because this country is today one of the main producers of this flower but also because of the so-called Tulipmania of the 17th century, when the unbridled search for progressively rarer and more exclusive specimens of this plant is said to have caused a speculative bubble and the ruin of the country , associating the flower with this type of phenomenon. However, this story is only half true: although there was some great demand and the bulbs were sold at very high prices, the economic loss was not catastrophic.

Before it was the fashionable flower in Europe, the tulip was highly prized in the country from which the Dutch imported it: Turkey, then part of the Ottoman Empire. So much so that one of the golden eras of its history came to be dubbed “the Age of Tulips” . The main person responsible for the widespread use of this flower was Sultan Suleiman the Magnificent, who was already obsessed with these flowers almost 200 years earlier. In fact, its name comes from the Turkish word for turban, tullipan , due to the nobility’s habit of using tulips as ornaments.

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In Iran, tulips can be found near the Freedom Tower in Tehran, as well as in Uraman Takht in the Kurdish province of Sarvabad

Finally, the tulip is one of the symbols associated with the Iranian revolution of 1979. It is the national flower of Iran and is even present, in a highly stylised form, on its flag. This choice has to do with the relationship between the flower and the martyrs: according to Persian tradition, red tulips would grow where the blood of one of them fell.

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Eltitoguay

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(...)PART 2 and End
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SUNFLOWER: FROM KANSAS TO UKRAINE​

Of all the political associations with the sunflower ( Helianthus annuus ), the oldest is perhaps that of the women's rights movement (and particularly the right to vote) in the United States. This is because the sunflower is the official state flower of Kansas , where in 1867 Susan B. Anthony and Elizabeth C. Stanton, important figures in this movement, included it in the images of the suffragettes ' campaign for the right to vote .

In 1896, the National American Woman Suffrage Association (NAWSA) adopted the same flower as its national symbol , adding the date 1848, the year of the Seneca Falls meeting that launched the movement.

The symbol quickly gained popularity on both sides of the Atlantic, and was included by painter Mary Cassatt in her famous painting Woman with a Sunflower .
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More recently, the sunflower has gained other political connotations. First, in 2014 it was adopted as the symbol of the Sunflower student movement in Taiwan, which sought to block a free trade agreement between the main party in Taiwan's legislature, the Kuomintang, and the Chinese government by physically occupying parliament until the latter cancelled the agreement. After three weeks, and following government concessions, they abandoned parliament (but not before cleaning it up!) and called for demonstrations where the sunflower represented hope for the movement, due to its heliotropic nature (it always remains oriented towards the Sun).

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One of the iconic images of Ukraine is the vast fields of sunflowers, but in the cities, especially on holidays or at demonstrations to end the war, it is also inevitable to come across dozens, if not hundreds, of these flowers. In this photograph, taken on May 9, 2009, we see her composing the bouquet of a ceremonial parade on the main street of kyiv, in the framework of the 64th anniversary of the victory in the Great Patriotic War (World War II).

Finally, in recent years, the sunflower has re-emerged as a political symbol in the eyes of the whole world due to its association with the Russia-Ukraine conflict. The relationship between Ukraine and the sunflower is ancient : this plant has been cultivated in this country since the 19th century, probably as a way of circumventing the Orthodox Church's ban on using lard and butter in cooking. Today, Ukraine is one of the main exporters of sunflower oil in the world, its seeds are consumed throughout the country and its flowers are used as ornaments.

In a way, even before the Russian invasion, although not officially , the sunflower was considered a symbol of the nation and of peace. One of the most visible manifestations was when, in 1996, the prime ministers of Russia, the US and Ukraine planted sunflowers at the Pervomaysk military base to celebrate the abandonment of nuclear weapons – we must remember that Ukraine had, until then, the third largest nuclear arsenal in the world. Sunflowers were also planted after the Chernobyl accident in order to take advantage of their bioaccumulation capabilities to clean up, as far as possible, toxic radioactive compounds from the land and waters around them.

Following Russia’s recent incursion into Ukrainian territory, the sunflower has been used again, now globally, as a way of expressing support for the invaded country and calling for an end to the conflict . This association was reinforced during the first days of the war by a video where we can see a Ukrainian woman from the town of Henychesk distributing sunflower seeds among the Russian soldiers occupying the town , instructing them to put them in their pockets “so that when they die, sunflowers will grow.”


"It is possible to fight with flowers / You can fight with flowers"; Banksy original:

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right

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You may not be a phony .
You may be a sincere commie ,as Shiva said .Mostly all of the commies on the forum are just hipsters , trying to follow the leader .They have no idea of what they really represent.
The problem with communism is that it only works on paper, it always ends in famin and atrocities.
It is not the Workers Utopia that it is made out to be.
NOW with capitalism the best Workers are insentivsed to do their best work. They are put up front were they can do the most good.
Ideally the lazy people should be left in the dirt .
Now in my country we need an overhaul. After the new deal we are at best semisocialist.
 

right

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The American commie .A big fat bourgeoisie
living in mommy's basement, taking the BMW into town for pizza and weed so that they can post memes on icmag all day
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audiohi

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Veteran
You may not be a phony .
You may be a sincere commie ,as Shiva said .Mostly all of the commies on the forum are just hipsters , trying to follow the leader .They have no idea of what they really represent.
The problem with communism is that it only works on paper, it always ends in famin and atrocities.
It is not the Workers Utopia that it is made out to be.
NOW with capitalism the best Workers are insentivsed to do their best work. They are put up front were they can do the most good.
Ideally the lazy people should be left in the dirt .
Now in my country we need an overhaul. After the new deal we are at best semisocialist.

But what do you do with all those people "ideally" left in the dirt?

I know you hate those dirty tent people messing up your beautiful city after you personally evict them from their homes.

What's your solution to that mister capitalism?


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right

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But what do you do with all those people "ideally" left in the dirt?

I know you hate those dirty tent people messing up your beautiful city after you personally evict them from their homes.

What's your solution to that mister capitalism?


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audiohi my heart goes out to people who are homeless without any fault of their own.
Dope people aren't fit to live in housing.
The show up in tent city looking for dope and become addicted quickly.
I don't have any small change for an addict.
I don't evict anyone. I fix up the property so that someone else might have an opportunity for housing
 

audiohi

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Veteran
audiohi my heart goes out to people who are homeless without any fault of their own.
Dope people aren't fit to live in housing.
The show up in tent city looking for dope and become addicted quickly.
I don't have any small change for an addict.
I don't evict anyone. I fix up the property so that someone else might have an opportunity for housing

So your "solution" is to blame drugs and look the other way?

Your own admission says that other homeless people exist than just drug addicts.

Regardless of the reason for homelessness, what does your huge capitalist heart do with them next?
 

right

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Stop all nacan production. And let the chips fall were they may .
I'm only sad for the friends and family.
No sense prolonging the inevitable
 

right

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If anything we need more help for vets and disabled people.
Not people who don't want to change the way they live, or people on Megan's List
 

audiohi

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Veteran
You didn't solve shit with that idea with and your big heart.

All those people dead from fentanyl that you keep complaining about.... has it stopped people from using it?

just keep ignoring those "my heart goes out to people who are homeless without any fault of their own."
 
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Eltitoguay

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audiohi my heart goes out to people who are homeless without any fault of their own.
Dope people aren't fit to live in housing.
The show up in tent city looking for dope and become addicted quickly.
I don't have any small change for an addict.
I don't evict anyone. I fix up the property so that someone else might have an opportunity for housing
Is that why your hero Reagan and his administration created so many...?
To then, after selling them the crack, be able to evict them, and take over their homes, and continue making business and cash at the expense of the most helpless of their "own" population and nation?


Woauh, that's capitalism all the way and beyond... It is not much different from how the bloodiest drug groups in the Third World act and finance their operations...
 

Eltitoguay

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For the end of the Zionist aggression in Lebanon; for the end of the genocide in Gaza:​

  • September 20, 2024
The recent Zionist attacks in Lebanon must be considered acts of terrorism.

For the end of the Zionist aggression in Lebanon, for the end of the genocide in Gaza


While the Zionist army continues its genocide in the Gaza Strip and its brutal attacks in Cisjordania, it continues its attacks and destabilization against countries in the region, especially Lebanon.

The recent escalation of aggression in Lebanon has worsened following the attacks in recent days on thousands of paging devices and wireless radio devices that have caused the death of 32 people and around 3,000 wounded.

These terrorist attacks by Israel, with the backing of the US, seek the submission of the Lebanese people to Zionism and imperialism.

The  PCE condemns these attacks, which can clearly be considered terrorist acts.

The  PCE stands in solidarity with the Lebanese people and with the Lebanese Communist Party, for us, the "most full of reasons" opposition force to the Israeli occupation forces in Lebanon.

The PCE demands an immediate end to the genocide in the Gaza Strip and an end to the Zionist occupation of Palestine, as well as an end to Israeli aggression against Lebanon and the rest of the countries in the region.
 
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Eltitoguay

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And in the next message, a new trip in time and space, fully subsidized by the State, on its Marxists Space-Time Airlines...
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...and always with the most seasoned pilots of the Association of Aviators of the Second Spanish Republic...
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......at the command of our crazy space-time flying gadgets.
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On this next trip, we will visit another democratically elected Socialist Government, and we will witness how another democratically elected Capitalist Government (USA), organizes a bloody far-right coup d'état that would lead to more than 40,000 people being murdered, "magically made to disappear", or tortured in prison...

...But the democratically elected government of the USA, which claims to be the standard-bearer of democracy, actually only likes democracy if those it likes win; If not, then a coup d'état and putting the most depraved and savage ultra-detechist on hand in the area as dictator...

Welcome to the Chile... (and long live Chile, from the Mountain range to the Sea)


...of President Salvador Allende.

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Public Television News


THE BRAKE TO A PEACEFUL PATH TO SOCIALISM, AND THE COUP D'ÉTAT TO ITS DEMOCRATIC ARRIVAL TO THE GOVERNMENT:

50 years after the coup in Chile that overthrew Allende and halted a "peaceful path to socialism" :


A novel political process led in 1970 by President Salvador Allende Gossens, "Chicho" to his supporters, who sought "Socialism by peaceful means", collided head-on with a powerful right and the support of the United States that paved the way for a dictatorship that lasted from 1973 to 1990.



¡Viva Chile; Allende vive!

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There was repression against the people and a breakdown of the social fabric.​

Coup d'état in Chile: between betrayal and atrocity​

Today marks 50 years since the socialist government of Salvador Allende – the first in history to be elected democratically – was overthrown; his project would last less than three years​

Roberto Gutierrez Alcala Sep 11, 2023




November 4, 1970, after having won the presidential elections held two months earlier with 36.6% of the votes cast, Salvador Allende assumed the presidency of Chile, thus installing in this country a Socialist government elected by democratic means.

However, Allende's socialist project would last just under three years, because on Tuesday, September 11, 1973 – exactly half a century ago today – the man who had been named commander-in-chief of the Chilean Army, General Augusto Pinochet, led a violent coup d'état that seized power from him.

What consequences did this atrocious event have on Chilean society?
Rubén Ruiz Guerra, director of the Center for Research on Latin America and the Caribbean at UNAM, answers:
“First, it brought tears, pain, terror, uprooting, death…; second, the cancellation of the democratic processes, which had reigned uninterruptedly in this nation for 42 years; third, not only the disappearance of the person who had been democratically elected to lead the destiny of Chile, but also the suspension of Congress, the savage repression of the people, the iron control of the press, radio and television, and, above all, the brutal rupture of the social fabric. On this last point, of course, not enough emphasis has been placed.”
"The establishment of the Pinochet dictatorship meant that brothers fought against brothers, friends against friends, comrades against comrades, and that those who were considered revolutionaries or left-wing militants were reported to the military authorities, arrested, tortured and, not infrequently, executed… And fourthly, it brought about the implementation of what we know as the neoliberal model, which is based on the reduction of the State and the dominance of the market. Thus, certain tasks that had been the responsibility of the latter, such as health care or workers’ retirement, passed into the realm of private initiative.”


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U.S.A. interference

Salvador Allende was a very relevant left-wing politician who, before winning the 1970 elections, had already been a candidate for the presidency of his country on three occasions (he was also a deputy, Minister of Health, Social Security and Assistance, senator four times and president of the Senate).

Obviously, he was viewed with enormous suspicion by the Chilean oligarchy, but also by the US government, which at that time was headed by the Republican Richard Nixon.

When Allende had already won the presidential elections but had not yet assumed power, Nixon understood that, at that time, one of the main objectives of his nation was to prevent him from becoming president of Chile. The recent declassification of documents from the United States National Security Archive containing the transcripts of telephone calls between Nixon and his National Security Advisor, Henry Kissinger, confirms this.

“Of course, this meant channeling resources and finding allies within the Chilean oligarchy, the first of which was Agustín Edwards, owner of the newspaper El Mercurio . Thus, Nixon financed a current of critical thought and action against Allende. Let us remember that barely a decade had passed since the triumph of the Cuban Revolution, which caused much fear, both in the Iberian American oligarchies and in the US government, and that, at the beginning of the 1960s, John F. Kennedy had promoted the Alliance for Progress, which established the need to make structural and economic reforms in Iberian America. At that time, the societies of that region were as unequal or more than now… In Chile, then, an agrarian reform was carried out that sought, on the one hand, to prevent left-wing thought from having more followers and, on the other, to prevent a critical mass of peasants from forming and supporting left-wing armed movements,” says Ruiz Guerra.

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Instability

However, Allende managed to reach the presidential chair and implement a series of measures that allowed the State to exercise a clear predominance in the regulation of the country's economic life, so the US government, in line with the Chilean oligarchy, increased its efforts to stop this turn to the left.

“That is why the attacks by the press against Allende’s government increased and very significant right-wing movements emerged, and, to make matters worse, the left-wing movements entered into an undemocratic dialogue with them. In addition – and this is essential – the oligarchy began to use its resources to generate not only political and social instability, but also economic crises, and the Chilean military gradually realized and became convinced that, in such unstable circumstances, they could intervene to resolve things,” says Ruiz Guerra.

Despite this situation of political, social and economic instability, on March 4, 1973, the Popular Unity – the coalition of left-wing political parties led by Allende – obtained more votes than expected in the parliamentary elections: 44%, which was a relief for the president and his followers.

However, that respite turned into fear, agony and death on September 11 of that same year, when Chilean Air Force planes bombed La Moneda Palace, the seat of the executive power of that nation, and pushed Allende to commit suicide.

“It is important to note that the coup d'état in Chile was carried out by the Chilean military, yes, but with the ideological and economic support of the US government.”


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Chases, raids…

To talk about the coup d'état in Chile and the 17 years of Pinochet's dictatorship is to talk about persecution, raids, arbitrary arrests, torture and murders.

“In several pronouncements, the Inter-American Commission on Human Rights has stated that these actions were not occasional, but systematic and approved by Pinochet. However, according to official information, from September 11, 1973 to March 11, 1990, when the Chilean dictatorship came to an end, there were between 3,300 and 10,000 people killed and disappeared (although Nathaniel Davis, the US ambassador at the time, once wrote that this figure could be between 3,300 and 80,000), as well as 40,000 tortured and 250,000 exiled,” says Ruiz Guerra.

An argument used by many Chileans to defend the dictatorship that was established in their country for 17 years is that on September 11, 1973, a war, an armed conflict, broke out.

“After the coup d’état there were some pockets of resistance in Santiago and other cities, but if we take into account that the level of lethality and violence in an armed conflict is calculated using the ratio (a quantified relationship between two magnitudes that reflects their proportion), and that for every 48 supporters of the Allende government who were killed by the Chilean Armed Forces only one dead soldier was counted, we can see that in reality no war broke out, which also refutes the idea that the Popular Unity was planning a revolution and hoarding weapons.”

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Without justice

In Ruiz Guerra's opinion, of all the Iberian American dictatorships of the 1960s and 1970s, the Chilean dictatorship was the one that, with the transition to democracy, was the object of very few efforts to impart justice to those who suffered under it.

“There have been no trials like those in Argentina, for example. The dictator Jorge Rafael Videla and other military officers involved in torture and murder ended their days in prison.
On the other hand, although Pinochet was captured in the United Kingdom on the orders of the Spanish judge Baltasar Garzón, he was not tried and returned safely to his country.


And in terms of historical memory, I have the impression that justice has not been done either. In a large number of countries that have suffered a coup d'état, it is acknowledged that there was a breakdown of democracy, violations of human rights and deaths.
As for Chile, approval of Pinochet and his government has grown in the last 10 years.
There are various reasons that explain this. One of them is that, despite the positive changes that have occurred since 1990, it has not been possible to establish a pedagogy that remembers the issue of the dictatorship as condemnable. The right claims the figure of Pinochet and considers that the coup d'état that he led was necessary; Some even say that, if the circumstances were right, we would have to do something like this again… It is important that we become aware that processes like this cannot – should not – take place in a civilized society of the 21st century. The resource to resolve ideological differences or differences related to the model of society and nation that we want to build cannot – should not – be the use of violence, but dialogue and, in the field of political definitions, democracy,”
he concludes.

In the text by Edith Sebastián Cerrado for inventory published in the magazine Punto de partida, José Emilio Pacheco's opinion on the coup d'état of September 11, 1973 in Chile is recovered:

“José Emilio Pacheco manages to summarize, with a critical and well-documented eye, centuries of Chilean history: he speaks of its economy, politics, society and culture, giving details of the characters and leaders who fought for a free nation. But there is something in particular that surprises me about this column, dated September 15, 1973, four days after the coup d'état: the author states, in a forceful manner, that Salvador Allende was killed by someone who would later become a dictator and tyrant, and openly declares his political position and support for the overthrown people:

'In 1970, Salvador Allende won the elections and wanted to free Chile from its dependence on imperialism and from its socio-economic backwardness by building a socialist society, gradually implemented by constitutional legality and without bloodshed. Surrounded and boycotted, he had the support of the working and peasant masses and of large sectors of the middle classes. He did not arm his supporters in defensive militias to avoid clashes that could unleash civil war, and because he trusted in the ceaselessly proclaimed loyalty of the army. Inside and outside Chile, his destruction was constantly plotted. He was blamed for all the problems caused by his predecessors and his enemies: maddening inflation, unrest, decline in industrial production. The ITT and the CIA, like the English investors in the time of Balmaceda, joined their natural Chilean allies and finally succeeded in having — in an act of ignominy that surpasses the Huerta betrayal of 1913 — a majority of the armed forces overthrow and assassinate Allende on the tragic Tuesday, September 11. As these lines go to press, everything indicates that the only thing achieved by the vile murderer Pinocho Pinochet was to unleash the civil war that Allende gave his life to prevent. The Chilean people rise up in arms against the traitors. The Washington-Brasilia-Santiago axis will not be established. The fascists will not pass.


Sebastian, Edith, “Closed for inventory”, Punto de partida 214 Mirada, 7th period, March-April, Mexico City, 2019 ( http://www.puntodepartida.unam.mx/i...rrusel-cerrado-por-inventario-edith-sebastian )
 
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