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[mexcurandero420]

There is much to read and research about it - and ultimately it really depends on which historian you might settle upon to try and understand what might have transpired - since so many have differing interpretations - 'truths' and 'facts' around such issues - waaay back in history - and it is all rather complicated - if you look at it in depth -

There is an interesting historian on YouTube called TIK - that I have been looking at lately -

FASCISM DEFINED | The Difference between Fascism and National Socialism - YouTube


'History has been forgotten. Nobody seems to know what 'Fascism' actually is, or was, or means. And the word has degenerated into little more than a slur. Today though I'm going to use historical sources to accurately define what Fascism was, place it within the context of history, and explain why there was a difference between Fascism and National Socialism, and what that difference was. I'll be giving the technical definitions of both Fascism and Nazism, backed by references so you can double-check my work. Sources are listed in the links below. I'm NOT a Fascist, I'm NOT a Nazi, I'm NOT a Marxist, and I'm NOT racist or anything else. I do not support said evil ideologies and I'm not promoting them either. My goal here is to give as accurate an account of history as possible so that we may learn from our mistakes and prevent history from repeating. List of sources for this specific video https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/... Full list of all my history sources https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/...'

* from the TIKhistory channel

Italian fascism was different compared with the German fascism.Mussolini didn't prosecute Jews like what the Nazis did.I saw a lecture on YT from an Israeli Rabbi about Mein Kampf which was translated into Hebrew.He said that the reason that Hitler started to prosecute the Jewish people, was the Russian Revolution, which was let by some Jewish men like Trotsky.The breakdown of Russian society by the communists was something that Hitler wanted to prevent for the German society.Both systems are terrible because the prosecution of groups of people.Hitler killed millions, but Stalin too.

 

[h.h.]

Ist’s and ism’s trying to one up each other. Both much different from a democratic society.

 

[armedoldhippy]

I still remember that judge with the barrel of a shotgun duct taped to his neck.

i've known one or two here locally whose appearance (and behavior) would be improved by having a shotgun taped to their necks...

 

[entropical]

Holodomor Documentary - By The Ukrainian Famine Research Committee

[video]https://odysee.com/@Documentaries:232/Holodomor-Documentary:e[/video]

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[Cannavore]

"nobody seems to know what fascism is"

that's not true lol there are plenty of fascist historians out there that will tell you exactly what fascism is. michael parenti and jason stanley for starters.

the nazi's are fascists. remove or add an aspect and it is still fascism.

 

[Cannavore]

Italian fascism was different compared with the German fascism.Mussolini didn't prosecute Jews like what the Nazis did.I saw a lecture on YT from an Israeli Rabbi about Mein Kampf which was translated into Hebrew.He said that the reason that Hitler started to prosecute the Jewish people, was the Russian Revolution, which was let by some Jewish men like Trotsky.The breakdown of Russian society by the communists was something that Hitler wanted to prevent for the German society.Both systems are terrible because the prosecution of groups of people.Hitler killed millions, but Stalin too.

muh cultural bolshevism

 

[Cannavore]

A bit simple presented about the rise of fascism.The revolution in Russia in 1917 caused a shock in Europe in the first place, but after WWI, Germany was forced to heavy payment thnx to the Versailles treaty, which let later to a heavy inflation under the Weimar Republic.

that still doesn't change the fact that fascism is born out of capitalism and democracy

 

[Cannavore]

Ist’s and ism’s trying to one up each other. Both much different from a democratic society.

we aren't a democracy either though. capitalism is anti democratic.

 

[Cannavore]

How communism killed 80 million in China

[video]https://odysee.com/@ChinainFocus:a/how-communism-killed-80-million-in-2:9[/video]

capitalism easily killed as many even probably prior to WW1

 

[entropical]

Italian fascism was different compared with the German fascism.Mussolini didn't prosecute Jews like what the Nazis did.I saw a lecture on YT from an Israeli Rabbi about Mein Kampf which was translated into Hebrew.He said that the reason that Hitler started to prosecute the Jewish people, was the Russian Revolution, which was let by some Jewish men like Trotsky.The breakdown of Russian society by the communists was something that Hitler wanted to prevent for the German society.Both systems are terrible because the prosecution of groups of people.Hitler killed millions, but Stalin too.

Not only the coup d’etat known as the ”russian revolution” but the genocide in Ukraine (documentary above) by the bolschevik and their attempts to extend their reign of terror throughout the whole of Europe. In Germany a foreign element had installed itself in key positions of power from which it worked to exploit the german people and subvert Germany as a nation to turn it over to communism. You then had the Treaty of Versailles, massive hyperinflation and starvation caused by capitalist exploitation through usury, degeneracy promoted against german culture (cultural bolschevism) and so on.

Hitler ended all of it and with that he turned Germany into an economic powerhouse that had abolished unemployment in just a few years. The architect behind their economic doctrine was Gottfried Feder and it centered on the fight against usury. His manifesto is an almost three hour long listen but interesting.

https://odysee.com/@TheFascifist:c/Manifesto-for-the-Abolition-of-Interest-Slavery-Audio-Book:6

 

[entropical]

capitalism easily killed as many even probably prior to WW1

Well, communism and capitalism are two sides of the same genocidal coin.

 

[h.h.]

we aren't a democracy either though. capitalism is anti democratic.

Any extreme tends to be anti democratic. Greed is the downfall of them all. Capitalism is greed run amuck while communism tries to control greed which takes cooperation or force. Few cooperate.

 

[Cannavore]

Any extreme tends to be anti democratic. Greed is the downfall of them all. Capitalism is greed run amuck while communism tries to control greed which takes cooperation or force. Few cooperate.

there's people that fought every economic transition in our history. slave owners fought to preserve slavery, feudal lords fought to preserve feudalism, capitalism will be no different. that doesn't mean it isn't worth doing away with. what's more important? realizing the meritocratic and egalitarian promises by capitalists and the ruling class were a lie, and actively trying to move towards those goals? or preserving an economy where a few people's wealth rivals that of ancient egypt while the vast majority toil and suffer their lives away? what laborer would prefer to work in a capitalist organized business that steals from them over a fully democratized enterprise? not too many.

 

[Cannavore]

Well, communism and capitalism are two sides of the same genocidal coin.

but you just admitted in earlier posts that russia and china was state capitalist. so how is communism genocidal if it's never happened? show me in Marx's work where he talks about the need for a highly totalitarian centralized bureaucracy?


communism and capitalism are about as far apart as you can get from each other. fascism and capitalism are two sides of the same coin. the former is literally birthed out of the latter in all historical instances.

 

[h.h.]

there's people that fought every economic transition in our history. slave owners fought to preserve slavery, feudal lords fought to preserve feudalism, capitalism will be no different. that doesn't mean it isn't worth doing away with. what's more important? realizing the meritocratic and egalitarian promises by capitalists and the ruling class were a lie, and actively trying to move towards those goals? or preserving an economy where a few people's wealth rivals that of ancient egypt while the vast majority toil and suffer their lives away? what laborer would prefer to work in a capitalist organized business that steals from them over a fully democratized enterprise? not too many.

Yet they’re not a lie. I certainly wouldn’t compare my life to the life of a slave. My life has been so much better.
Pick any economic system. They all have ups and downs. There’s so many different ways of cooking the books. It’s like choosing paint colors. Pick one and go with it. Make it work. Progress along the way. Mix and match.
Highly regulated capitalism has done well for many folks. Communism is a whole different system for the average citizen to figure out. Why? For the sake of idealism? It can be borrowed from, but it simply isn’t feasible without many difficult changes. Not without reeducation along with the abandonment of western philosophy. As much as you feel a need for that to happen, it’s not going to.

 

[entropical]

but you just admitted in earlier posts that russia and china was state capitalist. so how is communism genocidal if it's never happened? show me in Marx's work where he talks about the need for a highly totalitarian centralized bureaucracy?


communism and capitalism are about as far apart as you can get from each other. fascism and capitalism are two sides of the same coin. the former is literally birthed out of the latter in all historical instances.

I never said communism never happened, you did as was expected. Marxism would portray communism and capitalism as each others opposites yes, but in reality they are two sides of the same coin. And to a marxist, of course, ideology always take precedence over reality whenever ideology conflicts with reality. Therefore a marxist will always shriek back to the position of ”muh reel komunizmu haz never been tried” when confronted with the fact that their revolutions ends in genocidal state capitalism every single time. Commies will always do the same thing over and over while expecting a different result after their program.

As for his need of a centralized state bureaucracy, Marx wrote in his ”communist manifesto” about his longing for ”centralisation of credit in the hands of the state, by means of a national bank with state capital and an exclusive monopoly” to his Rothschild cousins. So yes, it is state capitalism and the so called ”working class hero” Karl Marx, who never laboured even for a day in his life, was nothing but an agent (and relative, a cousin) of the capitalist banking caste.

 

[Cannavore]

lmao boring. ive already responded to your jewish conspiritoid nonsense like 30 pages ago

 

[Three Berries]

lmao boring. ive already responded to your jewish conspiritoid nonsense like 30 pages ago

I'm sure you were just as wrong back then too.....

 

[Three Berries]

 

[Hammerhead]

lol, it's been nothing but a rinse and repeat. In a month the same BS will get brought back up again.