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Three Berries

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Pending Commiefonia legislation.


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Cannavore

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covid 19 mandates aren't socialism, bud. they can however be interpreted as authoritarian.

socialism is an economic ideology that replaces the model of business ownership by private businessman(s) aka the capitalist(s) with ownership of enterprise by the workers, organized in a democratic fashion.
 

Cannavore

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and you criticize everybody but Bernie.

i've criticized bernie plenty lol. he's a coward and ended up being too weak to take on the democratic establishment. this is the fault with social democrats. they think they can actually convince or shame the establishment and the capitalists into joining the side of social democratic change. most leftists hold no such delusion lol.
 

Three Berries

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covid 19 mandates aren't socialism, bud.

socialism is an economic ideology that replaces the model of business ownership by private businessman(s) aka the capitalist(s) with ownership of enterprise by the workers, organized in a democratic fashion.

Yes that's the correct definition. I consider anything that furthers the welfare/warfare state socialism. Go all the way back to the creation of the FED.

But government forcing medical experimental and untested treatment is tyranny.

And I'm sorry you are so eager to throw away your rights. Keep your paws off mine.
 

Cannavore

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every capitalist economy (which is basically every economy) on the face of the earth has welfare.

being that most people aren't in fact capitalists, scrapping capitalism in favor of a democratized economy, call it socialism, capitalism 2.0 i don't care.... at the end of the day the workers and everyday people will have much more power over our lives, economy, environment, etc. than we do now.
 

Three Berries

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every capitalist economy (which is basically every economy) on the face of the earth has welfare.

being that most people aren't in fact capitalists, scrapping capitalism in favor of a democratized economy, call it socialism, capitalism 2.0 i don't care.... at the end of the day the workers and everyday people will have much more power over our lives, economy, environment, etc. than we do now.

Left out the warfare.
 

h.h.

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i've criticized bernie plenty lol. he's a coward and ended up being too weak to take on the democratic establishment. this is the fault with social democrats. they think they can actually convince or shame the establishment and the capitalists into joining the side of social democratic change. most leftists hold no such delusion lol.

I agree.
 

Brother Nature

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this thread is a failure. no right winger/trumper/qanoner has explained how the democrats are communist. even thought half of them on this forum constantly post about how the democrats are communist lol.

The speakers corner is a failure, a small corner pocket in a cannabis growing site that's ballooned into the most posted in section due to the inability of man to be able to control his own ego, hubris, and misplaced anger. And, yes, I include my self in this failure, we're all fallible, some of us do recognize it and try not to be. Sometimes. You can say it brings about conversation, but if you look through these threads it's the same few members repeating their own viewpoints and belittling those who don't agree. There's no real conversation and there's no progress. Hopefully, it does help some of you vent some of that negativity and anger that can be a part of the life we live, so to that end I'll admit it can be positive, but will IC mag to go down in history as a bastion of the greater cannabis community or a cesspool of hatred and frustration that takes itself out of the game a la 4chan and the like? Who fucking knows at this point...
 

Gypsy Nirvana

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When politics to some people is like football - and they will support their team/ideology no matter if they win or lose - no matter if they go to war half way around the planet somewhere - or not - no matter the crimes - history or scandal attached to their beliefs - it's their team - and they will support it - to the very bitter end -

Some call it loyalty - others patriotism - to follow and support a belief - an idea that can never be a reality - and only a pipe dream - in this corrupt world -
 

h.h.

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When politics to some people is like football - and they will support their team/ideology no matter if they win or lose - no matter if they go to war half way around the planet somewhere - or not - no matter the crimes - history or scandal attached to their beliefs - it's their team - and they will support it - to the very bitter end -

Some call it loyalty - others patriotism - to follow and support a belief - an idea that can never be a reality - and only a pipe dream - in this corrupt world -

I know. What’s a fellow to do? Spend his life fighting it or doing one’s best to enjoy and promote the goodness in the pipe dream? My direct ties to the corrupt world is through the tv and the Internet and those are only of my choosing. I can turn them off. Alas the world is not corrupt. There are no whips at my back. It is made of those such as us. The good ones and then the others. I fear not, as all things pass. The adventure continues. Stay tuned for part two.
 

armedoldhippy

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When politics to some people is like football - and they will support their team/ideology no matter if they win or lose - no matter if they go to war half way around the planet somewhere - or not - no matter the crimes - history or scandal attached to their beliefs - it's their team - and they will support it - to the very bitter end -

Some call it loyalty - others patriotism - to follow and support a belief - an idea that can never be a reality - and only a pipe dream - in this corrupt world -

you can support a team, but still call them out when wrong, or even change teams. only a fool follows blindly without reckoning. i was a hard-core GOP & NRA member for decades until i could see the deleterious effects both were having on our democracy & the rights of the people. our "bill of rights" is slowly becoming a list of "okay ideas we can't afford & still feel safe". fucking everything is against the law, and jailing each other over imagined offenses without a victim is now a vast money-making venture, with a side effect (benefit?) of it eliminating the right to vote in many cases...team aint worth a fuck? quit backing them. it's not about winning, it's doing the best we can for all involved .. or was SUPPOSED to be.😩
 

h.h.

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you can support a team, but still call them out when wrong, or even change teams. only a fool follows blindly without reckoning. i was a hard-core GOP & NRA member for decades until i could see the deleterious effects both were having on our democracy & the rights of the people. our "bill of rights" is slowly becoming a list of "okay ideas we can't afford & still feel safe". fucking everything is against the law, and jailing each other over imagined offenses without a victim is now a vast money-making venture, with a side effect (benefit?) of it eliminating the right to vote in many cases...team aint worth a fuck? quit backing them. it's not about winning, it's doing the best we can for all involved .. or was SUPPOSED to be.😩

There’s several teams in a league. Each made up of individual players , who play individual roles. Then they have the playoffs. Then the championship. If you only watch the championship , you get a distorted view.
 

VenerableHippie

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Yes that's the correct definition. I consider anything that furthers the welfare/warfare state socialism. Go all the way back to the creation of the FED.

But government forcing medical experimental and untested treatment is tyranny.

And I'm sorry you are so eager to throw away your rights. Keep your paws off mine.

Hello,

Hope you're fine this morning and that aircraft noise is not interfering with your day.

I just wanted to say ... and I don't want to confront you by doing so ... that Working for the man just gave me the shits SO MUCH that I opted out for a life on what, over here in the Land of Oz, is called 'the dole'. It didn't pay a lot, but I found ways of earning a little extra money here and there, AND we had five kids so the welfare was a bit more generous.

So we lived like that for maybe 20 or so years. It gave me time to build my own house in the bush out of reject stuff and of course have lots of free time to smoke dope and have lotsa sex while the kids were at school and other interesting stuff like that.

I really want to thank the Government which introduced the welfare system here. They were almost immediately thrown out but the dole stayed. It took the pressure off lots of marginalised people ... like single mothers for example.

There's untold money around. Nancy Pelosi hasn't got it all. The System IS UNFAIR for sure but I 'll bet you earn well AND TAX FREE from your private enterprises small tho' they might be.

I do.

That's it. All I have to say. I 'm happy except for some on-line stalker who keeps putting bugs in my Startup files.

Hope the sun shines where you are ... bye for now ... VH.
 

h.h.

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a VERY distorted view...

That view has changed in our lifetime. It’s the uninvolved who fear the government. Those who would have it their way and no other. The extremists and the Charlie Mansons of the world. The totalitarian mindset of no compromise. The narcissists. Those trying to shame you into submission. Dictators.
 

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