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med-man

The TRUMP of SKUNK: making skunk loud again!
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my genetics involved in 5 year cancer research study:

"Hi my name is Dr.Magnus

I was introduced to your WC Deisl, ilver sk, pain K and Purple PK last year for our cancer research project in Toronto.
I would like to share that as a private Cancer Researcher/Developer we really found that your genetics introduced to us through our dutch scientist really were good and consistent.

We had 4 of our patients grow with our scientist who produces the best scientific nutes called GrowBigTea TM a one stop shopping Organic fert that produced winners in all alkaloid profiles in Amsterdam,UCLA,Univ Guelph and Univ of Sao Paolo Brazil.

The patients last year were given an oil extract which is a combo of proprietary plants including yours and showcased 98% reduction rate in the PK,PPK and 95% in the WCD and SS.
We are now going to compare sec gen clones for efficacy in sustaining quality through cuttings .

We see that you are very dedicated as we are and we look fwd to using your seeds and maybe we can work together to have you help us with tweeking of these strains with our new technology called BioSeedMatch TM a new technique in matching patient DNA to the seed DNA for optimal matching to help the patient. We quality test each seed seed , then we DNA test patient then match with this new technology nowhere else in the world. The result is to identify a 95% or greater compatibility match for cancer treatment.

Again , keep up the good work and we look fwd to communicating with you.

Thanks

Dr.Magnus Ph.D."


"GoodMorning
Thank you for replying. We will stop in and introduce ourselves at the show.
The scientific data is part of my 5 year study then I will publish, in order to be paid respectively.
So far you are in the top 3 breeders we have assessed for consistency and quality.
Once im completed we will prep for may planting and I will contact you with an idea you might be able to help us with and then if so we can arrange seed from you for the experiment at the show to be for spring planting outdoors and fall harvest.
Thanks again for getting back to me.
Regards
Dr.Magnus"

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med-maker

ps i have been sending bud from seed samples to my scientist, grown in soil/coco mix, as people have been claiming flaws in the quantacanna testings. 23% has been the average, wait till i start testing my hydro lol....
 

chefboy6969

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well med-maker.ca...if you are as successful as you claim to be with this commercial grow operation. ********************************hehe, you can't do that, tou edit*******************************...but I just keep thinking about the statement..."if it seems too good to be true, it usually is"

peace
Chefboy
 
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med-man

The TRUMP of SKUNK: making skunk loud again!
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order seeds from the bo, you will get some freebees of mine, judge for yourself, thats all that matters (what works for you). or wait till my sub forum pops up. i will post all my grows, r/d and breeding projects there.

med-maker
 

Pangea

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Heres your answer, Pangea...amazing- it's like you never posted the question. He won't answer, so I will.

Just like anything else listed for sale - if they won't mention the price/ignore your inquiries about said price...

IT IS TOO MUCH/SCARY!!

Lack of response says it all - this ppl will keep on keepin' on, legal or not. Just keep it small. i will smoke 10 lbs of my own over 10 yrs before ever touching 1 gram of that overpriced shit, whatever the source.

Hell, around here the street corner has the "quoted CG price of 250/Z": beat by $50-$100. so, those who choose to revert to buying instead of keep growing due to legal risks once again - Where are they gonna go, eh?

Do the math!


Peace

Thanks for the response.

I believe in a patients right to produce there own cannabis for medicine.

I also believe that patients should be able to access cannabis from a commercial producer that is grown to a suitable standard.

The main issue in the hearts and minds of patients as well as society as a whole, is the ability to have appropriate access.

The most important factor with access is the cost to the patient.

Any CPL or DG that is charging more than $2.2/gram is either inefficient or unscrupulous.

Having such simple questions be ignored by the med man is a good indication that he is not open or honest.

He seems to be much more interested in his new seedy business than providing patients with a high quality medicine that is affordable.

Prove me wrong, medman, its all I want, step up, provide medicine at an affordable price! I hold anyone to that same standard.
 

gaiusmarius

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roflmfao thanks for filling us all in on the price that you consider to be correct. now go tell big pharma what prices they should be charging for their meds eh? common be reasonable, who is gonna invest millions just to run at a loss after all expenses and wages are covered? specially under these circumstances where you don't even know if you will be able to run from 1 year to the next. i'd like to see you invest a few hundred k on a production facility and then sell the buds for 2.20 a g while everyone else is charging 10 and more. just makes me laugh, if you think thats the way to running a successful business, please go ahead and show how it's done. it's so easy to tell others what they should and shouldn't be doing, lets see the nay sayers do it better, you will be setting the new standard.
 

Pangea

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A new standard? I don't think so. The folks at mmar.ca sure seem to have a handle on it, and I do believe several others will be able to provide at similar prices, along side us.

Time will tell...
 

gaiusmarius

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if things were really legal you might have a point, but i hope you can accomplish what you say. because i do think meds for sick people shouldn't be expensive, but i don't blame the grower, i blame the laws that create the black market in the first place. once cannabis is treated like any old crop, you will really see prices come down. at that point it might go down even more then that, specially for out door production.

but lets say you have a get out of jail free card and follow the rules and regs so there is no chance of jail, fines etc. still you will have a hard time producing good quality indoor bud to sell at 2.20 and make enough to pay everybody a decent wage, maybe if you run it like wallmart and pay minimum wages type slave labor and use trimming machines, have a facility that lets sun light in to save on power, you will have a chance of turning a reasonable profit at 2.20, but i can not really see it, won't the tax and all the cameras, compliance checks and security needed make it impossible in the cold hard glare of day light?
 
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c-ray

I hate corporatism as much as the next sane person but I will still shop at walmart and costco just because and only because their prices are rock bottom (and I am cheap)

sometimes when I am sitting in the parking lot at walmart just staring off into the distance it will be apparent how steady the flow of customers is, like there is a big vacuum in the walmart store that is drawing everyone in that comes within a certain distance

and so it will be for commercial weed

those who think it is a sound business policy to charge 10 or more dollars per gram will go the way of the small downtown core businesses that get smashed to bits whenever a new walmart moves into town, the smart ones like walmart and costco will streamline their business to the max and drop their prices to the point that consumers will see them as the only logical choice... it's the law of toyland..
 
A new standard? I don't think so. The folks at mmar.ca sure seem to have a handle on it, and I do believe several others will be able to provide at similar prices, along side us.

Time will tell...
a lot of the people who appear to have a handle on it probably wont be able or wont want to keep providing meds to patients for free or for under $100 per ounce when they are subject to audits and inspections that will prevent pounds from hitting the street, that profit is the only reason they are able to provide meds to the patients below market value
 

gaiusmarius

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a lot of the people who appear to have a handle on it probably wont be able or wont want to keep providing meds to patients for free or for under $100 per ounce when they are subject to audits and inspections that will prevent pounds from hitting the street, that profit is the only reason they are able to provide meds to the patients below market value

that is the truth, many growers donate some product out of compassion, but that's only possible because some of it hits the capitalist market at market value now. once these facilities are running a while the inspectors will learn every loop hole and close it, then show me the guy managing to stay compassionate and make a fair buck.

speaking of wallmart/casco and compassion, their employees are treated like slave labor, so i don't see them being compassionate to the sick if they or people like them, ever get in charge of cannabis production. in fact their product will most likely be full of poison, due to their federal waiver on following the pesticide laws that they will bribe and bully to get.
 

DarthFader1

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that where my office / classroom will be.

i will have 1 room thats 50 ft long and 15 feet wide.

and 3 double deckers, all 12 x 24, = 6 rooms,

7 total. with a ton of kithcen space and bunkers for students and labor alike,

med-maker

Wait, so you intend to operate this giganormous growing operation from this one warehouse, and you are also going to have a "classroom" where your "students" can be taught your magical cannabis powers?? Gee, i don't see any problems with that idea whatsoever.

Hold on let me just find an appropriate facepalm pic for you....

Ahh yes here we go

picture.php


darth

P.S For someone in charge of multiple million dollar grow ops, your level of attention to details ( for one, your own grammar) is simply atrocious. You must be loving all this attention your getting though, even if 98% of it is people making fun of you.
 
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c-ray

speaking of wallmart/casco and compassion, their employees are treated like slave labor.

I take it you have never been to costco.

they are paid well there (I hear 20 bucks/hour to start) and underworked, and most importantly they enjoy their jobs.. they actually smile there..

that is not the point that was being made, the point is that large scale guys who have it figured out will be able wipe all the others out, and without sending pounds out the back door.. even pricing a couple bucks below everyone else is enough..
 

ghostmade

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^lmao u must be in the far north ehh.here in the usa walmarts wokers are the most sadest beins on earth ive never even seen a walmart worker smile(outside of a flirting gaze) but are there any pics of the rooms or??????
 
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c-ray

uhmmm I was talking about costco..

seems you shop at walmart, so the point is valid.. the lowest priced vendors will rule the market.. marketing 101..
 
dude your scientist must have been blazing instead of attending grade 10 english!! At least he is down for the cause tho right!
 
uhmmm I was talking about costco..

seems you shop at walmart, so the point is valid.. the lowest priced vendors will rule the market.. marketing 101..

Lowest price only works for certain market segments and if you have enough customers to make up for the lower margins. Also Walmart might be lower but their size lets them make higher profit margins as they can strong arm manufactures into lower wholesale pricing than the competition.
 
Lowest price only works for certain market segments and if you have enough customers to make up for the lower margins. Also Walmart might be lower but their size lets them make higher profit margins as they can strong arm manufactures into lower wholesale pricing than the competition.

I agree with that, one thing I have noticed too in this industry is that when big shows reach a certain size their cost effectiveness, quality control and yield per light go down a lot. Seems to be at or above the 200 light point but theres always exceptions. Usually to do with the fact that employees will never pay notice to the details that an experienced grower with a stake in the business will.
 

TURBD

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If you make good shit it will be sought after.
Lamo and Ferrari don't need to run the #'s Kia does and they don't advertise.
The wallmart style is one approach.
Good luck I hope it works and there's employment opportunitys.
 
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