Commercial growing and New growers

[C#1]

The grows good the 12 hour work days are killing me though! expect to see me auto ghani thread up this year with loads of pics! If i have time im not gonna promise yet but they will be up! new truck and 4 days off work a week to hit the bush! poppas gotta buy a new pair of shoes and by shoes I mean car! LOL

 

[FarmerJoe]

I'm glad you came out and said what a lot of who really have a passion for growing the plant have been thinking. I know the work that goes into guerilla growing just a few plants. I found myself with the only option of carrying a cubic yard of semi-moist peat a quarter mile by myself through the woods, a lot easier said than done for sure.

My advice for anyone thinking about doing a massive guerilla commercial grow is... Rethink, replan, and appreciate the work you've done.

 

[subfloral]

it is hard enough for me to get enough to cover my habit and my electric bill let alone growing a bumper... it's a part time job just doing what i'm doing... (sorry not really an outdoor grower, although i'm looking into it for next year possibly) but anyways... it amazes me how optimistic kids can be when it comes to growing
a few years back i was hiking along a trail not too far from my house that i often walked my dog on... anyways, i'm walking minding my own business when all of a sudden, about 15 feet off the trail to my left, a hippyish looking girl in a long dress stands up looking frightened, followed a split-second later by her equally startled looking friend...
i, doing the polite thing thinking that i had just startled a young couple enjoying each other in the great outdoors, just keep walking and look the opposite way
on the way back through, my curiosity got the better of me, and, seeing that they were gone, decided to go check out the spot where i saw them
they had this rickety little fence set up with like a dozen or so seedlings showing only one set of true leaves planted straight into the forest floor in a very shaded part of the woods
i took half of the plants home just so that they didn't get wasted by poor planning, but was nice enough not to take everything... i went back a week later and found a note saying "you're going to die!"... i got a chuckle because all the other plants were dead at that point and i was wondering if they thought i caused the other plants to die as well as taking the other ones
anyways... maybe my morality can come into question that i took the plants in the first place... but i'm the type to water my neighbors flowers if they don't... not that that is a defense but anyways... it just made me laugh because the plants were crap, probably some schwag bagseed
naivete

 

[Guest]

there is nothing wrong with dreaming big, grow for it & learn

 

[Guest]

good advice is "don't touch anyone else plants" ... even if you thought you were saving them

 

[C#1]

you should have took them home grew em a bit bigger and putem back! I woulda been choked if sumone took my plants even if they where doomed! they woulda learned a lesson! but hey I guess they learned 2 lesson your plants will die outside too early and too shady and plant in a more secure spot...Well they probably didnt learn all that but at least to plant in a more secure location! I understand getting ripped when there small feels as bad as getting em ripped when there big

 

[BACKCOUNTRY]

there is nothing wrong with dreaming big, grow for it & learn

I do think it is best for new growers to pratice some restraint when it comes to raw numbers and size, until they have a real idea of what its about, and I do believe no one should be encouraging reckless and greedy behavoir, I despise that....

 

[Wu-Skunk]

Ok backcountry,we all know that...put more info on the strains,outdoor techniques and this

This is commercial threat man !!!

 

[Guest]

BC ... need some help getting off your high horse?

what is up with you?

don't preach please

 

[Guest]

And don't get me wrong, I don't hate commercial growing at all, I won't say I have not been in the practice of selling off my surpluses, but I won't brag about it either.

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[Guest]

My dad used to tell me that whatever I did, it was important to do it well. I think that's the ticket here. Better have 10 perfect plants then 1000 plants that don't have what they need. The problem with me as a newbie was the lack of knowledge of knowing what they need. With some experience and lots of study one can learn what the plant needs and also what you need to do as a grower because as much as the plant can get dead, lost, stolen, busted, so can you! Cutting NO corners is the key. Learning where the corners are is having experience and a green thumb. But honestly, to the new grower I say, if your ready to loose everything, or have nothing to loose and want to go big, go for it! Why not, you might get lucky. Or not. Either way, as long as you don't get discouraged or end up lockup up, you'll get better at it every year. And soon you will realise that at the moment where you though you where really becomming a good grower, you where terrible and ignorant. We all go through that.

 

[Jon]

In the last couple of months I have been recieving many PMs and posted questions concerning irrigating, or preparing the soil for very large gardens.

These people make it clear they are aspiring to grow large quanities, and by the nature of the questions it is clear many of them have never even grown a cannabis plant in their lives. I find this disturbing.

I first started posting on OG and then here because I wanted to help people who have never grown(or are very new to growing) to have the confidence to grow their own smoke, even if they have no other choice but to grow it in the bush like me.

And don't get me wrong, I don't hate commercial growing at all, I won't say I have not been in the practice of selling off my surpluses, but I won't brag about it either.

I do feel that the ultimate goal of legalization is going to be more likely reached when more people grow their own, and less people buy, when the system is truely "Overgrown".
A favorite saying of mine: "Sell a man a ounce, and he will smoke for a while, teach a man to grow, and he will smoke for a lifetime".

What I will say is that any new growers who feel they would like to grow commercial quanities should learn to grow first, get a season or two under their belts, and see how the grow scene works in their climate/area before they go to the trouble and danger of possibly getting caught or loosing their crop to poor planning and lack of experience.

By the time a person is ready for the workload of growing many pounds each year, they should not be asking many(if any) questions about growing at all, in my humble opinion, they should darn near be experts.

The experienced growers on this site should take responsibilty to make sure to advise these noivice growers to control their greed, and be careful before their first outdoor grows turn into their last, I have not been posting here and on OG all this time to show high school kids how to get to jail.

I'm with you 100% on this. I showed my buddy my one Urkel that I put on the ground and he's talking about how rich I can be. (Hate to pat myself on the back, but it was my first grow and it came out NICE.)

I told him I don't want to be rich BUT if he wanted me to help him set up his own medical garden I could and I'd even tend to it if he gave me some of the harvest.

Remember kids: You don't get busted until you get greedy. Even though I'm doing it in Cali, I'm still not going to grow more than I can smoke. Good thing I smoke a lot!

 

[Jon]

Anyone that thinks this is easy is a fool at best.........It took me several years to get to where i am and i aint just whistling Dixie. The first and foremost thing you have to achieve is finding a strain that gives you the results you`re looking for in your climate and in your timeframe... If i was a rookie and i wanted to grow and do it right i`d find as many seed strains...preferably clones as possible and grow them out.......i`d plant them in 3 or four locations with the same genes in each crop.....this would assure that you get to harvest at least one of the sites and hopefully all of them.
I`d keep an eye open for early bloomers and go from their....this is a true and tried method that can cut years from your schedule and save a lot of hardwork...........hope this helps.

I love your Advanced Nutrients outdoor thread, Reibsi. Shit's inspiring!

 

[LiLWaynE]

newbs who try to go commercial will get hit hard with many ill effects long before harvest... Most before even before 12/12....

and that is just the way it is.

So, BACKCOUNTRY- The only answer to prevent newbs from hurting the legalization movement is to provide as much education to these newbs so that they dont have any hardships, and dont get popped.

 

[Guest]

Newbs hurting the legalization movement???

I'm curious as to how you can explain this to us all. I don't understand your logic.

 

[motaco]

easy. dumb **** kids go plant 300 plants like a moron "where nobody will find them"

like a park or off a trail or some shit.

they get arrested and say the weed made him so stupid etc etc etc.

do you honestly not see how a buncha 18yr olds getting busted trying to grow commercially on public land is bad for the movement?

 

[Dignan]

Growing the weed is tricky, but selling it quickly and safely is an even trickier thing to pull off if you're new to the game. To me, that's the real danger of a newbie deciding he's going to get rich growing cannabis.

I'd say a guy is less likely to get busted during the cultivation of 200 plants than he is trying to unload that 125 lbs of bud on the street. Making enough contacts to sell that amount of bud takes years of connections.

I wish everyone the best, regardless of their motivations or methods. The cultivation of cannabis shouldn't be a dangerous proposition, period.

 

[Ganico]

I'd say a guy is less likely to get busted during the cultivation of 200 plants than he is trying to unload that 125 lbs of bud on the street.

Well I don't know about all that,haha. Plus, when you are in the field, there's nowhere to go. Get caught at a plot and you're ****ed, regardless. Not like just catching a charge for a sack or whatever you have on you in the "street"

And 125 lbs???? Ha! That's assuming all 200 were fems and got 10oz a piece (they wouldn't here unless a special cutting or something, in which case they'd most likely be huge trees and too noticeable), which is no small feat in itself to have 200 1/2+lb plants.

Actually growing 200 without any significant amount being found, or without getting busted, and surviving pests and weather would be a HUGE task here, and way ****ing harder.

Trying to get 200 full sized plants here to finish then get them in, and assuming everything went 100% efficiently with no problems whatsoever, that would still be pretty much be a full time job, literally. That's pretty much impossible here, for real. Not quite, but pretty much. I certainly wouldn't even think of trying it

 

[Dignan]

OK, change my post to "75 plants"

Now argue your point.

 

[Guest]

I get my biggest laughs from people that are just going to grow a hundred pounds. They don't realize the amount of work involved in that. If they grew and trimmed just 5 pounds they would understand the amount of time and work involved.....

Well Said!!!!!!!!!

No One understands the amount of work that goes into growing! Then they wanna bitch when apples are 8 bucks a bushel!