Coming from SILS to Mars Hydro tsw 2000

[exploziv]

Come on man, don't poison yourself just to get rid of gnats. Only the possible contaminants and non-insecticide addons in that spray scares the shit out of me, let alone the active incredients. I won't use that shit in my house, even.

 

[Sampas92]

I just managed them with a layer of anyhting on top and bottom of the pot..

Maybe the solution is to war them with everything we know that works at the same time

If you all are way more experience and have difficultys im nobody to talk but when i was younger i used to burn to hell flys and moskitos with any inflamable spray and a lighter, maybe the solution resides there?

peace

 

[gizmo666]

Come on man, don't poison yourself just to get rid of gnats. Only the possible contaminants and non-insecticide addons in that spray scares the shit out of me, let alone the active incredients. I won't use that shit in my house, even.

Cmon dude I don't cover the plants in the stuff lols
All I do is a very light spray in the room kills the flyers
And then a light spray on the top of the soil then move the soil about with your fingers that deals with the fuckers in the dirt
Only had to do it twice in the past with no detrimental effects to the plants
Like others I got plagued with the fuckers I killed two plants with neem oil and other shit with zero success and my plants were dieing so I gave it a shot and was surprised at the outcome myself
But I know where your coming from
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[exploziv]

Cannabis is so good at sucking up stuff that it's used for decontaminating shit from soil/fields. So it may not be as harmless to you as you think. Even if you still decide to do it, I guess it's better to know it can be dangerous. Maybe try the perlite layer way. Its less dangerous. Sometimes you have to add a layer to the bottom of the pot as well, cause with no access to the top of the container, they will eventually find the bottom drainage holes. Just get the finer perlite size and wet it while manipulating it so you don't inhale the dust.

 

[Sampas92]

So some of the goodies already arrived..
i purchased some things that were critical in this bigger tent, 2 oscilating clip fans (yeah i know about the mortality rate but...)
some 11l pots, a bag of 50l of soil allmix from biobizz, 50l of coco natural from canna, guanokalong complete mix, neem flour to mix in the soil, insulated ducts, and normal aluminium ones for intake light trap..wormcastings too.. still arriving are the ashes, seaweed and the slow release mix for flower from guano kalong, gypsum, potassic soap, neem oil and one fungicide that by translation its called "horse glue", also basalt dust to mix in the casting to mix further in the soil..i got a scrog net too and some mycos and i guess its it..i think i covered everything i needed to cover to do a grow without complications..

Regarding the 3 girls, they remain the same but something have changed and i dont know why..
on the daily inspection no RA on sight, not in the plates or flying, neither in the roots.. but for example my bangi is drooping hard, one leaf or two is also cupping and i dont like it..
perhaps asking for a bigger soil?
the stems of droopiest leafs are live purple and i dunno if its relationated in any way..
i remember seing somwhere on icmag, dunno where, someone that got fussarium and noticed it because of the various tops of the plant droping when the sun blasted them outdoors, also they removed a branch and the plant indeed had a brownish colouration inside of her, dont remember how it was managed..
i dont think its the same because she becames droopy as the day goes by, but then comes to my mind the DLI. Why?because in the first 3/4 hours of light at 30% like i have now may not be a lot but from the 15st hour to the 20st may be too much, if it is infected with fussarium.
since im a newb i removed 2 side branches yesterday, just to see if the brownish colouration was there, it wasnt but also i didnt search about it to know if its not there means that its not really there..

My rh is on the low side between 40s and 50s, the temps are where they should..

So...
I guess is just lack of space in the roots in that 2L pot, even if they are not so developed like they were before the prunning so tomorrow, since is my day off, im going to tranfer the 3 of the to 5l pots while i prepare the tent and wait to the arrival of the rest of the goods to put them in flower.. if the repot show good signs im good, if she still remains the same i dunno what im going to do..

The yunnan kali dont show the same thing but the sativish kali shows it a bit.. lets see what tomorrow and the next days bring to them..
Group shot

Yunnan Kali

Sativish kali

Bangi
Mid day

end of the day, way more droopy comparing one with the other

Peace

 

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Nice pickups bro
Is the horses glue possibly horsetail.. its a high silica plant that can be used as amendedment..

Do you plan on making a mix and let 'cook' for a bit? Maybe not because none of the amendments are nitrogen source or require decomposition..


The ladies are looking good! They can droop at the end of the day if they're ready for bed, and then perk the next day..

 

[exploziv]

It's hard to see a guy so determined to have a good grow having so many problems with pests and such. Nice shopping spree, tho!
Better days will come, man! Good luck!

 

[Sampas92]

Nice pickups bro
Is the horses glue possibly horsetail.. its a high silica plant that can be used as amendedment..

Do you plan on making a mix and let 'cook' for a bit? Maybe not because none of the amendments are nitrogen source or require decomposition..


The ladies are looking good! They can droop at the end of the day if they're ready for bed, and then perk the next day..

The product is called "Ekisan" by Trabe, its aminoacids mostly, wich thoughten the plant and act as a "fungicide", is for foliar only. It helps them a bit to rejuvenate also, and since i paid 9€ for a bottle, if its good, im happy lets see..

Thanks on the compliments on the ladys but i even if i know they can droop a bit at the end of the day, i also know that with leds they dont tend to do it much from what iv read online, also, since they are "old" i know how they behave and i dont feel it should be like this..

I feel it was a bit of too much water, because today the bangi is more perky, going to let dry the soil a bit to see if she tells me something.

peace

 

[gaiusmarius]

the best way to get rid of gnats is to let the medium dry till just before the plants droop, that normally hits them hard so you don't even see them around for ages. a few of them really are np anyway.

 

[Sampas92]

It's hard to see a guy so determined to have a good grow having so many problems with pests and such. Nice shopping spree, tho!
Better days will come, man! Good luck!

Thanks for coming by bro

Well it depends on how you see it because here in the northern part of the iberian peninsula the environment and weather is prone to mold and mildew, by some years now i see plants with mildew, every year.

also im on some groups of horticultural and agriculture on facebook, lots of folks from older generations that learned some things here and there with their granpas etc that were from a time where the country where ruled by a dictator and closed to the outside, poor and they used what they had in hand, i reach the conclusion that a lot of the organic crazy guys from ammendments to pest controls whatever are doing pretty much the same or close that they do..

Anyway, in those groups there were reports of RA problems this year, wich is not common, but also the weather is way different from the last years, dryer cold temps, no rain or very few and its not enough, and since i have these girls by quite some time in those same pots, no neem no nothing, just feeding, it was just a disaster wainting to happen..

The mold and i had a deficient air circulation, in the older smaller cabs, and the tent too, ence the clip on fans, but if the spores are airborne the only thing i can do is hepa the intake and finnaly treating the ipm protocols with the respect they deserve..

When you walk on the rain you get wet and i get wet you know?

its good, it makes me look for knowledge in areas that maybe i could never get to know if it wasnt like this like for example geting to know that the gnats fly like they didnt see you ence easy to squach, while the RA flyer stage is very aware of you and get the fuck out the moment you open the tent and runs away from you if you try to squach it, wich in fact was really hard.
loose on one side, gain in another. Also determination doesnt mean much without doing the things the right way..


Peace

 

[Sampas92]

the best way to get rid of gnats is to let the medium dry till just before the plants droop, that normally hits them hard so you don't even see them around for ages. a few of them really are np anyway.

Hi there, thanks for stoping by

when i had thek in the seedling skunk even with the top of soil dry by some 4cm they were prolifering, maybe different mediums play a role in that specific way of fucking them?

Peace

 

[PCBuds]

... the gnats fly like they didnt see you ence easy to squach, while the RA flyer stage is very aware of you and get the fuck out the moment you open the tent and runs away from you if you try to squach it, wich in fact was really hard.

That's pretty cool to know!!
I could easily catch fungas gnats out of the air.
They say to keep your friends close and your enemies closer.

Maybe you should keep some as prisoners so you can study them. lol

 

[Sampas92]

That's pretty cool to know!!
I could easily catch fungas gnats out of the air.
They say to keep your friends close and your enemies closer.

Maybe you should keep some as prisoners so you can study them. lol

Good to see you here bro, prisioners?i already got my girls living here rent free, free food, free everything, i think its enough

Peace

 

[gizmo666]

Good to see you here bro, prisioners?i already got my girls living here rent free, free food, free everything, i think its enough

Peace

not only that but the best medical care you can throw at them
hope you get things sorted out mate you deserve good results

 

[Sampas92]

not only that but the best medical care you can throw at them
hope you get things sorted out mate you deserve good results

Thanks bro you too, very nice grow this last one you got, hope to see a good easy grow again in this next one of yours..

I went back in the thread to see if i could pick any signs of when the RA started wothout me knowing and i guess i know and they are showing similar expressions now, is them again or may be the heater inside the tent because of the proximity of the heat to the girls, also the rh is really low on the 30s%..

I got trouble with the cuts i was doing, and start a new batch by a week now i think, i switched the 2w led to the previous used 14wcfl that worked great with the skunk some months back, i think i see some of them starting to grow something, the water is around 18/19c but they dont seem to mind, lets see if this is it, if i got one of each i bin this and start again, plus with the new amendments etc etc


Yo bibi40 remember we talked about the coloidal silver here in the thread? Any idea what could possibly go wrong with this? better to dillute a bit?

Peace

 

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Yo sampas

have you saw this thread. I got the ingredients off ebay and made my own, worked well.
https://www.icmag.com/forum/marijua...llen-seeds-r-c-clarke-method-as-base?t=357407

 

[exploziv]

Yeah I heard before that too concentrated can harm the plants. The good dose was around 40 ppm, from what I remember. But a quick search with google on the forums will for sure provide this answer from people that have done it before. I done it ages ago but with diy solution I have never measured. So ppm didin't mattered to me at that time since I couldn't measure it anyway. I just remember reading from others that it matters.

 

[bibi40]

Thanks bro you too, very nice grow this last one you got, hope to see a good easy grow again in this next one of yours..

I went back in the thread to see if i could pick any signs of when the RA started wothout me knowing and i guess i know and they are showing similar expressions now, is them again or may be the heater inside the tent because of the proximity of the heat to the girls, also the rh is really low on the 30s%..

I got trouble with the cuts i was doing, and start a new batch by a week now i think, i switched the 2w led to the previous used 14wcfl that worked great with the skunk some months back, i think i see some of them starting to grow something, the water is around 18/19c but they dont seem to mind, lets see if this is it, if i got one of each i bin this and start again, plus with the new amendments etc etc


Yo bibi40 remember we talked about the coloidal silver here in the thread? Any idea what could possibly go wrong with this? better to dillute a bit?


Peace

wow , 120 ppm seems a lot , i did it with 40 ppm , perhaps you may dilute 1-1 with water ?
i'm unsure , i did it with a bottle of 40 ppm and spraid it pure ....
wait for more answer perhaps ?

 

[Sampas92]

Yo sampas

have you saw this thread. I got the ingredients off ebay and made my own, worked well.
https://www.icmag.com/forum/marijua...llen-seeds-r-c-clarke-method-as-base?t=357407

Thanks on the sugestion mr dots and yes, i did saw that thread, right before i poped my first 2 autoseeds in that mini cab..
i never researched for the ingredients here in my country or the rest of europe, but i guess it may become more expensive at the moment of the purchase..
i can understand how is low cost too because you use just a bit of each and it can last a bunch of time and if one is going to use it on the regular i guess is better but for me? Just wanting to play a bit and maybe do seeds of expensive ones? I guess im going with CS already ready to use and the average of price seems around 15~20€ and probably easy to source, but i will take a look the same to see wich route to go if it becomes a reality

thanks mr dots
Peace

 

[Sampas92]

Yeah I heard before that too concentrated can harm the plants. The good dose was around 40 ppm, from what I remember. But a quick search with google on the forums will for sure provide this answer from people that have done it before. I done it ages ago but with diy solution I have never measured. So ppm didin't mattered to me at that time since I couldn't measure it anyway. I just remember reading from others that it matters.

Im lazy on that, maybe ill do like bibi suggested and dilute a bit maybe, i can also try pure and dilute to see how they react..i guess with some calculations i can get some close eyeball concentration of around 40ppm by diluting, dunno, need to think, is not a priority so...

Peace