Columbian Gold 72

[ricardox]

anywhere to get these seeds? no longer on ******s anymore

 

[achille]

It's still in stock at the USC site.

 

[mike tea]

cg72 udate asit stand

cg72 udate asit stand

Well it looks I crapped out on the '72 CG. Last 3 plants seemingly all show male pre-flowers. That makes it 7/7 males for me!

Not sure what's going on here either I got some masculinized seed or gender is environmentally controlled with this line. Not sure I fully understand but Tom Hill discusses it in his thread, x-to-auto.

My default soil is Canna terra pro so possibly a little to high in N but plants seemed to grow fine n healthy. Also intense UV and dry climate where I'm at too.

I'm pretty bummed about it but do have some Snowhigh Golden King to go through to hopefully find some of that Colombian goodness.

How's everyone else's Cg '72 going? Mike Tea you must be close to harvest by now? And funkhorse how's the whorly one going?

cg72 plants that survived the scorch were started in 10 gallon buckets they were all females after enduring all this stress good news none of them, have hermied right now they are in a small green house and are kept in a vegitive state myself and friends are takeing cuts of these mother plants now as spring will befast approaching unless that ground hog sees his own shadow the plan for 2021 grow is to cross these w.o.s,cg santa martas with the with the cg72 the endeavor will go as pland by myself and close friendsthe only plantsthat we crossed were panama crossed with the w.os.cg it was a success colas were harvested plus seeds one you get chance p.m. me 2020 grow was a struggle the female hairs on this cross produced chocolate colors when they were chooped and dried these were large plants they with stood the 105 degree weather my friend told me we should call these rio roxo, red river Colombian after Spanish explores came to mountains here in western Oklahoma looking for goldagain thanks goes out to one have in questions post it and I will do my best to respond cheers to all stay safe abd happy new year grows the cg 72 will continue for 2021 god bless youall mike tea

 

[funkyhorse]

I have a total of 9 plants,seven of them went to the flowering room in 1,3 liter pots with sizes ranging from 30-40 cms height, hopefully some place will be left in the flowering room and they will be able to receive an uppotting to 5 lts to continue sexing
These are the 2 plants left still in veg, the whorled phillotaxy one and a runt which showed embryo in the 20 hour water soak but it is making it and is starting to grow normally. The whorled plant went to water on oct 31st and it is in this pot since november 10th. It measures 15 cms high, it is very slow growing

And this is the whorled alone. If taking the picture of the plant alone it doesnt really give the idea of what this stuff is

Nexus, it is my understanding we got the same batch from regseeds. The plant showed last year in this thread of which I am smoking these days the last top shot left, it is from regseeds. I dont think the batch is 100% masculinized but from 4 seeds coming from 2 different sources I got 3 males and the lucky female. This year thanks to coronavirus is the first time I am sprouting 5 seeds minimum per strain and full packs. It certainly makes a difference, you can select the best expressions and you can see more clearly what is in the pack, with a couple plants it is just pure luck. Before doing this I was thinking that open pollination without selection is better but I dont like the way breeders select towards fast flowering plants or indica expressions of sativa lines.
For instance, in the case of CG72 I am not sure I will use the whorled plant for a repro but I am curious about it and hopefully it will make it to the flowering room one day and show the sex and potential of this
The leaves of this JGL repro CG72 I am growing now are very peculiar and I havent seen them before in any other plant

 

[Im'One]

cg72 plants that survived the scorch were started in 10 gallon buckets they were all females after enduring all this stress good news none of them, have hermied right now they are in a small green house and are kept in a vegitive state myself and friends are takeing cuts of these mother plants now as spring will befast approaching unless that ground hog sees his own shadow the plan for 2021 grow is to cross these w.o.s,cg santa martas with the with the cg72 the endeavor will go as pland by myself and close friendsthe only plantsthat we crossed were panama crossed with the w.os.cg it was a success colas were harvested plus seeds one you get chance p.m. me 2020 grow was a struggle the female hairs on this cross produced chocolate colors when they were chooped and dried these were large plants they with stood the 105 degree weather my friend told me we should call these rio roxo, red river Colombian after Spanish explores came to mountains here in western Oklahoma looking for goldagain thanks goes out to one have in questions post it and I will do my best to respond cheers to all stay safe abd happy new year grows the cg 72 will continue for 2021 god bless youall mike tea

Very cool,,Mike so glad these made it and are comin along!

 

[troutman]

@funkyhorse,

These plants like many Landraces don't like too much nutrients and leaf tip curl is a sign of that.

 

[funkyhorse]

@funkyhorse,

These plants like many Landraces don't like too much nutrients and leaf tip curl is a sign of that.

Thank you very much troutman
I thought leaf tip curl might be a sign of overwatering because I dont use much nutrients, I feed them with Alga grow which is basic nutrient. I also read that in veg landrace plants accept more feeding like hybrids but in flowering they dont like much nutrients and some strains which are supposedly sativa landraces like Mango Thai need more nutrients to be happy than other strains, so you learn while you grow and experience is a great teacher

I also see within the same strain plants respond differently and most are ok but others not.

To avoid overwatering I have been touching the substrate to see if it is humid or not because even if they are same strain, they dont go at the same pace
Since I am growing different varieties at the same time and for many strains it is not clear what it is until they are in advanced flowering, I am using a 16-8 light schedule for veg and 11/13 in flower. Some stuff being promoted as sativas are indicas and they have different needs so I am trying to do an average thing for everybody. Some other strains have sativa and indica expressions so is difficult nailing it the first time you grow it.

The whorled plant I am happy it is alive, it has been a very difficult plant to keep alive. She ate all the first leaves she produced. I lost the first whorled plant, they have different needs than regular plants. They are much slower growers than the others. The first whorled I took out of the humidity dome same time like the rest of the family and it got stressed real bad and died. The whorled CG72 I kept in the humidity dome twice the time of the other CG72 and it got stressed too but survived. Maybe I should bring this whorled plant outside but I am afraid of more stress shocks

 

[Element115]

I also read that in veg landrace plants accept more feeding like hybrids but in flowering they dont like much nutrients and some strains which are supposedly sativa landraces like Mango Thai need more nutrients to be happy than other strains, so you learn while you grow and experience is a great teacher

Are you saying that the mango thai has been misrepresented as being a landrace from Laos but I fact isn’t ?

 

[funkyhorse]

Are you saying that the mango thai has been misrepresented as being a landrace from Laos but I fact isn’t ?

Allow me to quote the words from the bank owner about this batch I bought as landrace, I totally agree with Ngakpa about this, I crossed the Lao/China border a few more times than once:

fwiw, Muang Sing isn't a traditional ganja cultivation region. It's right up on the border with China.

Nobody who understands Laos would go hunting for Sativa ganja landraces there.

The crop in that region is traditionally opium, and the only Cannabis traditionally grown is hemp.

Real ganja cultivation happens in the ethnic Lao regions, which really start properly from Luang Prabang southwards, and don't really getting going till Vientaine and from there down to Cambodia.

That's not to say you're going to get seeds just by turning up and asking - unless you find them in some buds.

Hi, to be clear for anyone reading, it's the Purple Highland Lao and pre-Dec 2019 Mango Thai accession that resemble each other. The other accessions are markedly different from them and each other.

The strain description for the previous Mango Thai accession explained the situation re. ganja cultivation in the far north of Laos, but I've taken it down since the new Vientiane accession went up.

The far north esp. highlands is mostly minority groups who are non-Lao.

Seeds are provided to hilltribes by Thai brokers, who also explain techniques such as rogueing out males, spacing, timing etc.

I know aficionados like to indulge fantasies of hilltribes having their own ganja landraces, but it's Tai groups such as the Thai and Lao who traditionally grow ganja.

That's how hilltribes get the seeds for commercial grows. Commercial ganja cultivation in the far north is a new thing, ime in the last 5 years or so.

Of course, there's long been people in the north growing plants in the garden for cooking etc. But the commercial crop up there has always been opium.

To the afirmation if "The Akha Tribe may have brought seeds from nearby Yunnan into northern Laos as they fled China in the early 20th century, his answer was:

Not a chance...

The Akha don't even traditionally grow hemp, never mind ganja

Also, they were migrating south a lot earlier than that

 

[Montuno]

I have a total of 9 plants,seven of them went to the flowering room in 1,3 liter pots with sizes ranging from 30-40 cms height, hopefully some place will be left in the flowering room and they will be able to receive an uppotting to 5 lts to continue sexing
These are the 2 plants left still in veg, the whorled phillotaxy one and a runt which showed embryo in the 20 hour water soak but it is making it and is starting to grow normally. The whorled plant went to water on oct 31st and it is in this pot since november 10th. It measures 15 cms high, it is very slow growing

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And this is the whorled alone. If taking the picture of the plant alone it doesnt really give the idea of what this stuff is
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Nexus, it is my understanding we got the same batch from regseeds. The plant showed last year in this thread of which I am smoking these days the last top shot left, it is from regseeds. I dont think the batch is 100% masculinized but from 4 seeds coming from 2 different sources I got 3 males and the lucky female. This year thanks to coronavirus is the first time I am sprouting 5 seeds minimum per strain and full packs. It certainly makes a difference, you can select the best expressions and you can see more clearly what is in the pack, with a couple plants it is just pure luck. Before doing this I was thinking that open pollination without selection is better but I dont like the way breeders select towards fast flowering plants or indica expressions of sativa lines.
For instance, in the case of CG72 I am not sure I will use the whorled plant for a repro but I am curious about it and hopefully it will make it to the flowering room one day and show the sex and potential of this
The leaves of this JGL repro CG72 I am growing now are very peculiar and I havent seen them before in any other plant

Si te refieres al suave o casi nulo aserrado, he visto fotos de plantas africanas de Mozambique, o tipo "Zamal" (Reunión, Mauricio) iguales... Mi actual Zamalmystik (Tropical Seeds Company & U.S.C.) lucía igual.

Salud.

 

[Nexus7]

Yeah look a little similar to mine @ funkhorse

Well the line is pretty homogenous ime with only slight difference between plants eg +/- purple but structurally very similar. All my boys were nice and vigorous except one which was planted to early in the season (too cold) and suffered from over-watering. It eventually sorted itself out though. The line imo is not a extreme NLD sativa like some O Haze pics I see but is a pure or at least mostly pure Sativa I feel. Does show some minor leaf mutations/anomolies when not kept happy. Stem rubs on the two bigs ones atm are sweet - mango, the little one has a rough smell to it but may change as it grows.

 

[achille]

Some pictures of dried USC columbian gold 1972.

Seeded buds, note how tiny the seed is:

Unseeded buds:

I harvested the sensi a little late (oops) with amber glands present. Flowered between 3 and 4 months, I didn't checked the exact start time for flowering. Please keep in mind that I haven't used any artificial lighting, just the northern sun (47° north) behind a window during flowering (it was outside in summer for the veg phase), I forced the flowering in September for the males and seeded mothers as an experiment so they were harvested sooner than the sensi.
It dried very quickly since the buds are very airy. Very vintage look and tiny ovaries. The smell is church incense: olibanum and benzoin (vanilla touch), woody notes too, very subtle smells.

I haven't tested it much yet but so far it seems to have the same effects than when I tested the leaves: smooth, relaxed, euphorical, fun and absolutely anxiety-free. Physically very pleasurable, definite presence in the body.
I was quite surprised by the relaxing, stoned effects, it is not a weed for sport or cleaning the house (at last not my phenos) but I would not call it couch-lock either. Long duration and clean exit. Good quality of effects but not very strong (but is hard to gauge since the material is very airy).

Keep in mind that my tolerance is now high (daily use), I should test it again after a big pause. I think that it would be the perfect weed to introduce someone to cannabis since it has no anxiety and the intensity is very easy to manage, very friendly.
I will try to let it cure a long time in jar but it is very nice already. In fact, since my test of smoking the leaves, in the middle of flowering, I think that it is an interesting sativa to grow in northern climates since you can enjoy it's effects even without harvesting it at maturity. It's a real vintage tropical ganja, the leaves are not to be discarded !

 

[achille]

Here is a better view of the resin glands:

I had two clones outdoor to test the columbian behavior in my climate, it performed well and showed good resistance to humidity and cold. I had two different phenos: one that turned purple with the cold, more leafy and productive but cloned poorly and had a strong catpiss smell at the beginning of flowering. The other pheno stayed green, very discrete smell during flowering and clone very easily, this is the pheno I'm keeping. Not much differences in high between the two, so far.
Here are the two outdoor testers:

Note that this is the Columbian Gold 1972 from USC, the Jahgreenlabel repro.

 

[Nexus7]

Nice report on the CG '72 @ achille but I can't seem to see your pics ...

Any chance your album is set to private?

 

[achille]

Yes it was, corrected ! Can you see it now ?

(I don't know how to publish the pictures in bigger format btw)

 

[troutman]

(I don't know how to publish the pictures in bigger format btw)

Below every pic in your album is a BB code.

Copy and paste that into your post and your pic will be full size.

 

[achille]

Thank you, it worked !
Here is a repost of the cg72 when it was flowering:

 

[achille]

So I am reposting all my previous pictures because I now realize that nobody could see it before (and I was wondering why nobody commented !)

 

[achille]

 

[Nexus7]

Very nice plants achille!

Looks exactly like what I would expect from a legit heirloom Sativa!

Also the buds look very similar to the other CG '72 grows online I've seen - very airy, small calyx, leafy with lots of pistils.

But as you well know it's all about the effect on this one