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TerpeneDream

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I can't wait to see the effects the local climate have on your project, Colorado is like the Hindu Kush region of North America, after all.

Totally! Colorado has a ton of micro-climates. We'd need: Colorado Lowland, Midland, and Highland.

But yea, I want to collect all the landraces possible, regardless of origin. I think this will be the hardest part, collecting these genes that have been syphoned from the people :/

If The Real Seed companies highland Himalayan genetics turn out to be winners, those seem like they could be nice additions.

Each year my crop will be seeded. I hear seeded weed has a wider cannabinoid spread, and it certainly is most natural.

So say you start with 10 different landraces. You open pollinate. Each year the progeny would get closer and closer, right?

Would you be narrowing the gene pool this way? Or would it kind of leave the entire gene pool of the 10 strains available as phenotypes?

I really need to start a: Starting a Landrace Thread

And to start learning Ethnobotany.
 

Ganoderma

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Anyone still keeping this industry staple in their stable, waiting for it to be in demand again?
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inb4 someone tells me it's not real Blue Dream :biggrin:


Local geography has a huge effect upon a strain over multiple generations, our favorite plant adapts and it adapts fast! I had a friend who grew in Hawaii using seed bank genetics, his favorites were an Afghani and Sam's Skunk #1, he crossed them together, and then interbred the children there on the island for several generations, resulting in what we called Hawaiian Super Skunk, he sent me some sample seeds with some kona coffee, both were delicious. Crossed it to my original Smurphberry (not related to Smurphberry Jam, this was Sweet Cindy99 x Sweettooth #3) and called the resulting 5 way poly hybrid G.E.C.K. (Garden of Eden Creation Kit), hoping to be releasing the clones this spring, fingers crossed, the test plants are among the most amazing in my garden, bag appeal of Gorilla Glue, flavor of Dynamite.

I can't wait to see the effects the local climate have on your project, Colorado is like the Hindu Kush region of North America, after all.

Growing in different mediums can also- can also affect the plants, dirt, coco, hydro, ect.
 

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fwiw smurph has been doing his thing for quite some time that I'm aware of and I've yet to see someone complaining...

To be clear, I've no personal experience dealing with him, nor have I met him personally.

But I also dont see every glue grow look like how mine come out.
There are many environmental and procedural variables.
Some cats see differences from one round to the next with the same clones.
 
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fwiw smurph has been doing his thing for quite some time that I'm aware of and I've yet to see someone complaining...

To be clear, I've no personal experience dealing with him, nor have I met him personally.

But I also dont see every glue grow look like how mine come out.
There are many environmental and procedural variables.
Some cats see differences from one round to the next with the same clones.
All the haters eventually grow to love me, people who are doubting my legitimacy one minute are placing orders the next, I aint mad :biggrin:
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Growing in different mediums can also- can also affect the plants, dirt, coco, hydro, ect.
I've heard most people agree that soil produces the most flavor, hydro produces the most pristine buds, coco is a balance between the two, would you agree?
 

Ganoderma

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All the haters eventually grow to love me, people who are doubting my legitimacy one minute are placing orders the next, I aint mad :biggrin:
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I've heard most people agree that soil produces the most flavor, hydro produces the most pristine buds, coco is a balance between the two, would you agree?

Its been a while since I've grown anything in soil. I just looked into what the local grow shop had, and they didn't have anything that wasn't already a "hot" mix, so I could mix my own mix. What you put in influences the taste, and that can include your medium too. With that said I don't like the taste of buds that have been grown in coco, compared with the stuff I've grown hydroponically. I haven't treated coco like soil and added any organic amendments, which could add to the flavor but I don't have any experience with doing that yet.
 

Riddleme

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inb4 someone tells me it's not real Blue Dream :biggrin:


Local geography has a huge effect upon a strain over multiple generations, our favorite plant adapts and it adapts fast! I had a friend who grew in Hawaii using seed bank genetics, his favorites were an Afghani and Sam's Skunk #1, he crossed them together, and then interbred the children there on the island for several generations, resulting in what we called Hawaiian Super Skunk, he sent me some sample seeds with some kona coffee, both were delicious. Crossed it to my original Smurphberry (not related to Smurphberry Jam, this was Sweet Cindy99 x Sweettooth #3) and called the resulting 5 way poly hybrid G.E.C.K. (Garden of Eden Creation Kit), hoping to be releasing the clones this spring, fingers crossed, the test plants are among the most amazing in my garden, bag appeal of Gorilla Glue, flavor of Dynamite.

I can't wait to see the effects the local climate have on your project, Colorado is like the Hindu Kush region of North America, after all.


Afghani and Sam's Skunk #1 just dropped seeds of this from the 70's that were gifted to me :biggrin:
 

waveguide

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if you want to give soil a try,
i'm no big player, but i say, add some peat moss
that shit is my definition of clean, tasty smoke
i'm sure other people deny or know better
at least, i understand it works for whiskey
 

mtntrogger

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BOG must be full of shit because he swears by soil for flavor purposes :biggrin:

Btw, movement took a small setback today http://www.denverpost.com/news/ci_29009382/federal-reserve-says-chartering-pot-bank-is-illegal so growers and dispensaries will continue to face harassment, discrimination and strong-arm tactics from financial institutions.

Yeah ! What does BOG know... right Smurph :) I actually have done a side by side more than once (before the internet existed) most notably with chocolope. The results were the same everytime : Hydro ( I used dwc for the experiment) produced larger buds , faster they were also a bit more "sweet"and melony. The dirt grown were always slightly slower growing and yielded a bit less, however had a MUCH more noticeable complex flavor that came through with the chocolate , also the dirt grown nugs were always more dense.
I always sold all of the hydro nugs and kept most of the soil grown for myself.
 
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Yeah ! What does BOG know... right Smurph :) I actually have done a side by side more than once (before the internet existed) most notably with chocolope. The results were the same everytime : Hydro ( I used dwc for the experiment) produced larger buds , faster they were also a bit more "sweet"and melony. The dirt grown were always slightly slower growing and yielded a bit less, however had a MUCH more noticeable complex flavor that came through with the chocolate , also the dirt grown nugs were always more dense.
I always sold all of the hydro nugs and kept most of the soil grown for myself.
Reminds me of wine grapes, the most complex flavors often come from growing regions that are less fertile, with rocky soil that forces the plants to struggle a bit, resulting in fewer, higher quality grapes.

But we're just spreading bullshit, not growing techniques pioneered by winemakers for 1000s of years, right bro? :biggrin:
 
Add to the mix temperature flux, and who knows what might actually be causing my Blue Cheese clones to alternate between sativa and indica dominance. It is crazy getting cut off an obvious Indica then have them all go sativa style...And they all came from the same mother???
I am starting to think that the more I learn about growing the less I actually seem to know.
 

mtntrogger

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Reminds me of wine grapes, the most complex flavors often come from growing regions that are less fertile, with rocky soil that forces the plants to struggle a bit, resulting in fewer, higher quality grapes.

But we're just spreading bullshit, not growing techniques pioneered by winemakers for 1000s of years, right bro? :biggrin:

Damn bro ! Fucking nailed it ! Do you know me ? I work as a sommelier . the best wines IMO, come from marginal growing climates ... The mosel, champagne, Chablis, and Patagonia quickly come to mind. Old vine plantings exhibit a similar thing , lower yeilds of intense and complex flavored fruit..
 

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Add to the mix temperature flux, and who knows what might actually be causing my Blue Cheese clones to alternate between sativa and indica dominance. It is crazy getting cut off an obvious Indica then have them all go sativa style...And they all came from the same mother???
I am starting to think that the more I learn about growing the less I actually seem to know.

Have you ever seen some one who's eyes are two different colors? Perhaps this could explain, or start a theory as to explain what you see. Or perhaps you could be seeing a form of genetic drift from an aging clone.
 
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SooperSmurph

Dirt has various minerals available.

I simply amend my peat with Azomite

problem solved
Azomite makes recycling my old Coco mix a breeze, replenishes almost everything that's missing after harvest, and a little dolomite lime provides the rest.
 
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