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There is a store in town that touts that it has a "certified organic farmer" as there grower. If you read their packaging they have "Bifenazate" on the input list.

Floramite say what? :)

Dumb motherfuckers. If they are suppose to be organic I would hate to see what everyone else is doing.

"Hey everyone, selling poison in Colorado is legal! Let's go there for Spring Break." :)
 

Seaf0ur

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Thats why I avoid the term organics in preference of the term "natural system"... organic is losing all meaning.
 

Space Case

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A statewide boycott of dispensaries and rec shops would be hilarious in my opinion. It would put some of these careless large scale growers in their place along with their chemicals. They don't care about patients or there wouldn't have been such nasty contamination to begin with. Again, just my worthless opinion.

Yea, but the in-flux of dumb tourists and the "backdoor" dispensary # market will continue. No one informed enough to be reading this thread would already be spending money at these establishments.

I saw a pic on IG the other day of some tourist kid visiting denver, posting his recently purchased wares from a Denver rec shop. The ingredients on the bag listed Abamectin second. I left him a comment, and he said he didn't know what it was and didn't care, weed, yay! People know that PBR is made from GMO-corn mash, but still drink it cuz its trendy and its cheap. Same with weed, unfortunately. Much like food, many people CHOOSE to remain ignorant rather than seek a better option. "Fuck it, McRibs are delicious!"

There is no such thing as "Certified Organic" for cannabis. No one is checking, no one really cares. Its all just marketing to uninformed consumers. The most important thing is pesticide/fungicide and heavy metal exposure. Many cheap hydroponic nutrients use low grade compound salts, which can contain impurities such as lead, arsenic, cadmium, mercury, etc. Additionally, organic nutrients like guano are chock full of heavy metals. Bats are bioaccumulators, and they mostly live off mosquitos, and in most semi-developed parts of the world, mosquitos are regularly sprayed and poisoned. Plus, organic can mean that it was sprayed twice per week with need or azamax or nicotine some other shit that you shouldn't really be smoking either. How about we focus on plant health to reduce, control, and manage pests and disease?

Dr. Nate Storey explains it quite well here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-0DMJUfRHM
 
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RckyMtRdnk

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Yea, but the in-flux of dumb tourists and the "backdoor" dispensary # market will continue. No one informed enough to be reading this thread would already be spending money at these establishments.

I saw a pic on IG the other day of some tourist kid visiting denver, posting his recently purchased wares from a Denver rec shop. The ingredients on the bag listed Abamectin second. I left him a comment, and he said he didn't know what it was and didn't care, weed, yay! People know that PBR is made from GMO-corn mash, but still drink it cuz its trendy and its cheap. Same with weed, unfortunately. Much like food, many people CHOOSE to remain ignorant rather than seek a better option. "Fuck it, McRibs are delicious!"

There is no such thing as "Certified Organic" for cannabis. No one is checking, no one really cares. Its all just marketing to uninformed consumers. The most important thing is pesticide/fungicide and heavy metal exposure. Many cheap hydroponic nutrients use low grade compound salts, which can contain impurities such as lead, arsenic, cadmium, mercury, etc. Additionally, organic nutrients like guano are chock full of heavy metals. Bats are bioaccumulators, and they mostly live off mosquitos, and in most semi-developed parts of the world, mosquitos are regularly sprayed and poisoned. Plus, organic can mean that it was sprayed twice per week with need or azamax or nicotine some other shit that you shouldn't really be smoking either. How about we focus on plant health to reduce, control, and manage pests and disease?

Dr. Nate Storey explains it quite well here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-0DMJUfRHM
So what's your plan for action? I just said I thought it would be funny. If the people who DO purchase their weed in store quit doing it, it would be a way to have their voice heard and pretty quick.
 

RckyMtRdnk

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FWIW I wasn't trying to promote organics over synthetics. To each their own. I do what I do and you do what you do. I could care less. I was just voicing my opinion about certain dispensaries having their crops quarantined and such over misuse of certain chemicals and using chemicals not safe for humans. It deserves some sort of action, but the people will just probably accept it as stautus quo, just like they do with their food.
 

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Denver & the State are taking this on in a pretty dumb way. Going after caregivers won't dent the supply of black market weed. What would (if the big boys got their act together) is cheaper weed, much cheaper weed. It's absurd that people are still paying grey/black market prices for a legal product. They need to license enough growers to drive the price down & squeeze out inefficient producers on that basis alone. They can have the whole market that way other than for peripheral players.

It's simple economics.
 

Avinash.miles

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It may hurt the bats...

I believe several popular caves on the front range are closed due to "white nose" fungus...

http://www.batcon.org/pdfs/GuanoGuidelinesVersion1.pdf

And if you are taking guano from BLM or National Forest, that would also be illegal harvesting... technically.

i was told if you never ENTER the cave you are legal and safe.... they use LONG (extended , like for painting) handled shovel rakes and pull it out to the mouth of the cave without ever entering....
i've probably already said too much :D

i'm familiar with the damn white nose fungus... shut down ALL the caves and underground areas on public land in the south many years back.
 

Jhhnn

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i was told if you never ENTER the cave you are legal and safe.... they use LONG (extended , like for painting) handled shovel rakes and pull it out to the mouth of the cave without ever entering....
i've probably already said too much :D

i'm familiar with the damn white nose fungus... shut down ALL the caves and underground areas on public land in the south many years back.

They seem to think it's spread by spelunkers who carry it unintentionally from cave to cave-

http://cpw.state.co.us/learn/Pages/WildlifeHealthWNS.aspx

I don't think cavers ever thought of the idea of sterilizing their gear.
 

shishkaboy

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Wow, the last few pages crushed me. As a tourist coming to Denver for the shops, with a non refundable ticket Where should I go? Since its a little too late, which shops in Denver would allow me to get a taste of some of these elite clone only cuts?
 

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FWIW I wasn't trying to promote organics over synthetics. To each their own. I do what I do and you do what you do. I could care less. I was just voicing my opinion about certain dispensaries having their crops quarantined and such over misuse of certain chemicals and using chemicals not safe for humans. It deserves some sort of action, but the people will just probably accept it as stautus quo, just like they do with their food.

Same here. I wasn't arguing for or against organics. I was saying, who cares about what they are feeding the plants, organic or synthetic. Ions are ions. More importantly, what is the pesticide exposure?
 

ubi

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pesticide exposure.... yea there a lil testing for that. i think no mycotoxins. but there is mold testing and aceptable levels of those colony forming units.

also when using pesticides in denver grows.

a label doesn't specifically say suitable for use on Cannabis Sativa L. and safe for human consumption you can not use it..If it has a broad use description like suitable for food crops and botanicals or suitable for human consumption but doesn't give a long list of specific plants than that is safe to use.
( i am quoting tk on another site. hope he doesnt mind)
 
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Eighths-n-Aces

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a label doesn't specifically say suitable for use on Cannabis Sativa L. and safe for human consumption you can not use it.


is there any label on any product anywhere that says it's approved for Cannabis? even the products at the grow stores seem to avoid using that term while they market huge yields and fat sugary buds to us.

not trying to argue ....... just wondering if there is anything that actually has been tested enough to get "approved" and wondering if the laws would even allow the testing if the companies that made the products were willing to do the tests in the first place

legal sure as hell doesn't mean simple when we are talking about herb
 

Avinash.miles

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is there any label on any product anywhere that says it's approved for Cannabis?
no, none
i'm glad the state is taking steps to ensure some kind of purity/safety, i've heard thru the grapevine that the green solution was definitely one of the warehouses with plants removed from it for improper chem use.
 

who dat is

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What's the consensus around here for the start of flowering for Colorado outdoor? I'm scheming already for a first outdoor greenhouse harvest. :biggrin:
 
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