Colorado Growers Thread

[orion6324]

You're going to want to run water (through a pipe) to that location. Anything else is going to be a pita and a hose will have to be rolled up every night to keep from freezing... most nights.


Dunno... I'm at 10,000 feet and I run my lights at night... always. Nighttime temps at 9-10k feet are always cool enough to keep a room cool with the right amount of airflow... humidity is low as well. (edit: Hrmmm... maybe not low humidity in all locations... just remembered that I'm on the 'dry' side of the mountain range here in fairplay... dunno about you?)

With a setup that size... you'll definitely want to look into using flip flops on two flower rooms to run lights 24/7. Your daytime flowering and your veg are going to be your biggest temp concerns... set your ventilation to handle those heat maximums and you'll be fine.

Are you going sealed, unsealed? Air-cooled lights or open?
Makes a big difference.

Anyone close by that can stop by and help out? I'm 2hrs away and I KNOW there are closer folks that know this stuff.

Not like it's illegal in Colorado anymore, eh? You're over 21.. yes? ROTFLMAO!

BTW... anyone in the Fairplay, Alma, Breckenridge, Como, Hartsel area... feel free to pm me if you're looking for assistance, eh?

Stay Safe!

My understanding is that pipes will freeze if not below 6-7 feet, so iI think that's gonna be to expensive. Planning on running my lights at night as well, and yes, maybe a flip flop style set-up. Would rather have a heater though I think. Not going sealed, in and out vent. I dunno, should I use my old vented hoods or should I buy new open hoods up here?
Not going to let anyone "come by to help" I went down that road before and ended up with a trashed/robbed flower room and the police at my door, lol. It wasn't a good experience

Yes, over 21 and a med plant count of 24

Thanks for the help, it's much appreciated.

 

[orion6324]

Hey, we're neighbors! I'm in Un-Incorporated Jeffco, also above 9,500 ft........

I have 300 gallons of fresh water and 600 gallons of nute storage in my 75 x 30 outbuilding, and I feed that sucker with 150 ft of garden hose. 6 months out of the year, I coil that hose and put it somewhere warm after every use, and I use it like twice a week. The first thing you will want to do is get a big water tank, so you don't have to pulll the hose everytime you water. You will also need to heat the water, so plan on getting some res heaters.

I run two rooms, like HydroSoil was saying, on a flip..... or at least the control boxes are on a flip, the rooms are too far apart to use the same ballast.

Feel free to PM me if you have more questions......

Ahhh, the spleefman. For some reason I had a feeling we were close, I'm in Black hawk/ Central city
Ya, I'm gonna have to go with the hose as well. Tank and tank heaters, check. I'll pick em up soon for sure. Didn't even think about that. What do you guys think about my gable vent fan idea? Any thoughts? Once that walls are up, I'll start pic taking and video, and we'll rock ICMAG with a perfect room<--- trying to get you guys pumped to help, lol.

 

[orion6324]

Not limited on power yet, no power yet actually. as soon as the walls are up I'll be looking for an electrician. What should I go with as far as power. My plan as of right now is space heaters and AC if needed and 4-6k watts. Never grown with more than 1k, but, I'm in Colorado now so yay, lol. Thoughts on what I'll pull with 4-6k and 24 plants?

Another thing spleef, what and where is the best grow store near us? Should I go dirt or hydro in this climate?

 

[orion6324]

Also, I assume there isn't much outdoor growing goin on up here? Or, is it possible?

 

[orion6324]

Probably jumping the gun on this question spleef, but. Where is our best bet for clones around here? I'm looking for the best of the best in genetics here. 10 of the best worldwide strains would be nice. I've been outa the growing scene for a while, so I've kinda lost touch with what is good out there. Back in my day it was AK 47, white widow. All the "classics" I guess. Fuck I've got so many questions, starting to ramble about everything, lol.

 

[iSMOKE.KUSH]

Orion. Your best bet is to make friends it's the right people if you want legit cuts in co. Be careful taking clones. There are soooooooo many infected clones. Ones you have an infestation, forget it, scrap it and start over. I grow from seed straight up. And I run 20 lights commercial.

 

[Bud Spleefman]

I'd go with 100 amps for sure. 100 for the house, 100 for the garage. You think you only want 4 lights, but reality is, you could run 8 lights in a vert, with only 16 plants......... and get 12 lbs every 70 days...... EASY.

As far as clones, if you get clones, you will get bugs. Have you ever had bugs? I mean, there are some people who will swear (probably in the NEXT POST) that they've never had bugs, well, up here, we have these bugs outside called Coniferous Root Aphids, they live in the Spruce Trees, so even if you grow from seed, you still might get bugs. Just be careful.... I could hook you up with some clones, but I've had every bug you could get, and I've ben growing in my space for years, so even if I think I don't have bugs, I could get bugs... are you getting the picture?!!!!!! Get your walls up, and your power run, clones if you need them, are available all over, you could round up 24 in a day, easy. Maybe a half day.

I grew 9 plants outdoors last summer, started outside on June 21st and were done by September 15th, which we had a hard freeze September 16th. But, the strain was nothing spectacular, Manitoba Poison, and the market is flooded with decent indoor weed, so I still have most of my outdoor, probably will make hash out of it. At this altitude, you really need a greenhouse to make use of the sun.

 

[orion6324]

8k and 12 lbs. I'm so doing that. By vert I assume you mean some form of vertical set-up with parabola hoods? Yes, I get the picture, stay on top of the bug issue, point taken. What do you think of my wall mount fan idea? Also, how about the best and closest hydro store to us? Should I go hydro or dirt in this climate? Iv'e got a little acreage here so, a greenhouse might be a side project later on. The wife likes to grow other thing like veggies so the more I think about it, the more of a possibility it is later on. What will 8k in lights run me? Any idea where to get em on the cheap?

 

[PuertoviejoKL]

I grew 9 plants outdoors last summer, started outside on June 21st and were done by September 15th, which we had a hard freeze September 16th. But, the strain was nothing spectacular, Manitoba Poison, and the market is flooded with decent indoor weed, so I still have most of my outdoor, probably will make hash out of it. At this altitude, you really need a greenhouse to make use of the sun.

Had about 20 in a greenhouse this year @ 10k ft in CO... left the plants up damn near through the end of october with minimal problems, but I think the weather was less severe this year than the previous fall/winter combo.

Need to get a new space to live and setup some COCO vertical!

 

[drifting]

great thread colorado peeps!! keep killin it out there

 

[SooperSmurph]

Your best bet for clones is simply to inquire with growers / dispensaries you know and trust, rather than going to someplace that labels themselves as the place to go, the smaller your chosen dispensary, the more likely they are to work with you on this, but don't hold your breath for a place like Pink House or The Clinic, hedge your bets on little boutiques like Ganja Gourmet, CAM, or Canna Mart, not nessicarily them, but that type of smaller more casual establishment. Private caregivers advertise on craigslist selling excess meds and clones as well, but i've never given it a try so I can't describe the experience.

 

[orion6324]

Your best bet for clones is simply to inquire with growers / dispensaries you know and trust, rather than going to someplace that labels themselves as the place to go, the smaller your chosen dispensary, the more likely they are to work with you on this, but don't hold your breath for a place like Pink House or The Clinic, hedge your bets on little boutiques like Ganja Gourmet, CAM, or Canna Mart, not nessicarily them, but that type of smaller more casual establishment. Private caregivers advertise on craigslist selling excess meds and clones as well, but i've never given it a try so I can't describe the experience.

Thanks smurph, being new to Colorado, this is the kind of info I'm looking for. Your advice here is just what I think I'm gonna do. Gather what I can from places/peeps like this. Then grow em out to see which I prefer. Being new here I don't know ANYONE, so probably gonna be a slow process for me. Thanks again for the advice, much appreciated.

 

[Hydro-Soil]

How are you liking living over there? Do you guys have a Grow Store over there? Are you driving to Frisco/Silverthorne to shop?

It's actually ok.

Shopping depends on what I need. Emergency and cheap stuff I go to the shop in Alma. Prices are decent and it's only 6-8 minutes away.

Otherwise I shop online for door-door delivery convenience and a bit better pricing, even with shipping.

My understanding is that pipes will freeze if not below 6-7 feet, so iI think that's gonna be to expensive.

Actually... learned something when I moved up here and it's called 'heat tape'. If the run isn't that far... you can wrap the pipe with electric heat tape and then a foam pipe-insulation wrap and snug it up with (industrial size/grade) zip-ties or wire. Gets to -50F here and these pipes are fine... running across the bare ground. Might be something to think about.

The large tanks is the next best step so you don't have to use the hose often.

Planning on running my lights at night as well, and yes, maybe a flip flop style set-up. Would rather have a heater though I think. Not going sealed, in and out vent. I dunno, should I use my old vented hoods or should I buy new open hoods up here?

That's a good question... I've always run open hoods and am just now getting into cooled hoods. The issue with full and open ventilation is that the only way to really supplement CO2 is individual piping to plants. Perhaps CO2 isn't your bag, yet?

With air-cooled lights you can run CO2 between the times you run your exhaust when cooling the room off.

Not going to let anyone "come by to help" I went down that road before and ended up with a trashed/robbed flower room and the police at my door, lol. It wasn't a good experience

Sorry to hear it. Been honest for about 10 years now... I tend to forget that others aren't like me. I understand though and no worries. Hehehe

Keep at it and...

Stay Safe!

 

[orion6324]

Actually... learned something when I moved up here and it's called 'heat tape'. If the run isn't that far... you can wrap the pipe with electric heat tape and then a foam pipe-insulation wrap and snug it up with (industrial size/grade) zip-ties or wire. Gets to -50F here and these pipes are fine... running across the bare ground. Might be something to think about.

The large tanks is the next best step so you don't have to use the hose often.

For sure this would be ideal, and maybe something to shoot for later on, but for now, I think the budget for this project won't allow it.

As for the Co2 thing, no I've never ran Co2, but I was thinking. If I run a propane heater in the winter when lights are out, Wouldn't that add "some" Co2 into the room? Anyone have any solid evidence of this helping?

 

[Lao Tzu]

So cool that there is a thread here just for co growers!

Can anyone point me in the right direction of some P-phunk#5 grows? Curious on the stretch and feeding. Will get some pics of the garden up at some point.

Thanks for your help.

 

[PuertoviejoKL]

Thanks smurph, being new to Colorado, this is the kind of info I'm looking for. Your advice here is just what I think I'm gonna do. Gather what I can from places/peeps like this. Then grow em out to see which I prefer. Being new here I don't know ANYONE, so probably gonna be a slow process for me. Thanks again for the advice, much appreciated.

Just gotta say seeds are worth the extra time if you can afford it... Problem is later trying to mix the clones / potential problems with the clean stock.

Most of the growers I run into seem to have hearts of gold....

 

[SooperSmurph]

Just gotta say seeds are worth the extra time if you can afford it... Problem is later trying to mix the clones / potential problems with the clean stock.

Most of the growers I run into seem to have hearts of gold....

While out in Cali growing was much more secretive, out here in CO the community among growers seems to be really active, i'd describe it as a bridge building culture, since our industry is still dealing with a lot of instabilities, having friendly connections to others in the industry can be a lifesaver.

 

[orion6324]

While out in Cali growing was much more secretive, out here in CO the community among growers seems to be really active, i'd describe it as a bridge building culture, since our industry is still dealing with a lot of instabilities, having friendly connections to others in the industry can be a lifesaver.

Amen brother, I need to do some networking here. Being new and all.

 

[orion6324]

BTW, that Frito Bandito guy, gave me some negative feed back, and then, turned me in to ICMAG for telling him off. When he was the one being rude to start with. WOW, i hate people like that.

Just had to fill you guys in on that. Frito, in case you didn't know, snitches aren't really liked.

 

[Space Case]

As for the Co2 thing, no I've never ran Co2, but I was thinking. If I run a propane heater in the winter when lights are out, Wouldn't that add "some" Co2 into the room? Anyone have any solid evidence of this helping?

That should work, but be mindful of the fact that plants don't use CO2 during the dark cycle, so your only benefit will be heat and possibly some residual CO2 in the air when the lights come on. If you had your exhaust fan off for the dark cycle (timer or day/night temp controller) the CO2 would build up, as its heavier than normal air and sinks down, and ideally the plants would benefit from it during the first few minutes of lights on.

In addition, too much CO2 is bad for your plants and bad for you, so if you are trying this technique, do your best to match required BTUs with cubic feet of your grow room, and if you can, buy a CO2 meter to get an idea of how high or low your levels will be getting. You can buy a CO2 meter fairly cheap, you don't have to get a fancy controller box.