Colorado Growers Thread

[Tripsick]

yeah looks really close... How many days did yours go?Mine is really putting out the diesel smell now and a little pineapple..
Its another seed i started from Big Buddha seeds Fem.

The only clones i have are the ECSD and this one that is Pure Pledge its crazy and finishes really quick.

 

[sneakinman13]

that one was cut at about 8 weeks. im lettin them go about 9 weeks with a 14 day flush...
they went threw a few dif smells. from fruit to funk to skunk to OMG WHAT THE HELL ahha
she is a stinker!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Tripsick]

BlueWidow at 50 days

 

[iSMOKE.KUSH]

gotta rep the co..here are some pics. way more in the journal. fuck it. bout to leach/flush the shit out of them for 2 weeks.

 

[Dorje113]

BlueWidow at 50 days

beautiful photo

 

[Greenmopho]

I murder algae...

And grow some healthy bitches...

 

[cannagirl]

Colorado I love you. I just got some excellent moms from some very generous cannographers on this thread. Thanks guys! I also just got internet hooked up in my tipi so you will see me more and more around here again! Happy growing everyone!

Nice to see you around

 

[JoeManixx]

<snip>...air pressure was the only variable I could think of that would be different).

Front Range humidity in the cold months can be <4% for weeks at a time, <20% for months.

Some plants from seed handle this stress well, some don't. -Joe

 

[aceofspades]

Here is an update on my cali skunk and lsd. Day 25, nothing too exciting but we are getting there.
LSD


Cali Skunk






Ace

 

[SELFHEMPLOYED]

Lets talk mpb/under current systems..


I am a total newb when it comes to any soiless/hydro style grow, but threads like jackmayeroff or whatever on the other site are very inspiring! I just checked out the under current systems and like that they aren't DIY and have customer support.. I know there are many many hydro experts on this thread. So..

1. Is this style grow doable with one or two buckets and a small reservoir?

(In other words could I do a mini mpb/undercurrent along side some soil plants in a 5x5 tent?)

The reason for that question is because again, I've never grown any other style than soil, but curiosity is making me wonder how well I could do in this application. I just can't commit an entire run to experimenting with this thing and making mistakes.

2. If question 1 is a go, is it worth the expense to to just do the 2 bucket system?

I'd probably go with canna nutes and figure tht as an expense, but how about chiller etc..

3. If #1 is not possible, can someone recommend a single bucket style hydro system that is as simple and small (meaning I don't have room for some massive reservoir) that would be a good way for me to get a handle on growing sans soil.


Let me know what ya think, there is a voice inside me repeating over and over "I wonder if I can maintain the SAME quality if I tried the hydro route".

Honestly I'm just cranky andtired of dealing with soil. Not growing in soil, but soil itself.

Thanks


Cheers!

 

[Greenmopho]

1. Is this style grow doable with one or two buckets and a small reservoir?

(In other words could I do a mini mpb/undercurrent along side some soil plants in a 5x5 tent?)

The reason for that question is because again, I've never grown any other style than soil, but curiosity is making me wonder how well I could do in this application. I just can't commit an entire run to experimenting with this thing and making mistakes.

Its been said before that its always easier to experiment when your jar is full! I'm a RDWC/hydro junkie, but I want to perfect my organic soil and soilless growing! And I'm glad to help! (Was it my pics above that made you curious? LOL!)

Yes, it is doable, but (your second question). My personal reasoning for choosing RDWC on a larger scale is sustainability. I reuse all my hydroton, and with beneficials in my RDWC, I only drain the system when I'm ready to flush, so I use a 1/3 of the water I would use if I were doing drain-to-waste, including soil. My only waste during harvest is the root ball, thats it! I can cut down 36 plants and only have 1 garbage bag to dump! IMO, its the most eco-friendly indoor growing method for scarce water conditions. If you are skeptical of flavor and quality, give me until October to prove you wrong with a sample!

2. If question 1 is a go, is it worth the expense to to just do the 2 bucket system?

I'd probably go with canna nutes and figure tht as an expense, but how about chiller etc..

RDWC is not really cost effective up front for only doing one or two buckets, IMHO. Chillers are expensive! And the problems of RDWC, such as: water temps, dissolved oxygen, leaks, etc. often deter people venturing into this style of growing. Be prepared to come home to 20 gallons of water on the floor, this is a reality of these "experiments". Although the Secret Jarding 5x5 tents hold water pretty well, as long as you have the liner velcro-ed in there! Canna nutes are good, GH Floranova is really the cheapest and easiest to start off with though for RDWC. Some people like the Ionic nutes, or the Botanicare CNS17, but I prefer a 3 part schedule, so I can cater to each strain.

What I am doing is a hybrid of blazeoneup's RDWC, and Big Toke's BioBuckets. Both of which are good basic reading for getting into this type of growing:

https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=8182&highlight=bucket+blazeoneup
https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=26343

I don't do nute changes, thanks to beneficials, but I do have to stay on top of my game with res top-offs and maintaining pH and EC. You can't slack in that department if you are doing anything remotely organic in any hydro system, especially DWC. Basically, I built a blazeoneup system, but with fatter drain and feed lines, but I take my style of feeding from Big Toke! Gotta find what works for you! My next venture will be a DIY Under Current system. I don't want to pay to have a pre built system, I think you can build the same system (any size) for about a 1/3 of the price. PVC is cheap, UC just has the pimp buckets, and the Uni-seals are part of the magic of the UC system! Talk to Bud Spleefman about those, he just built a system. But once again, you are seriously splurging up front on these types of setups, so watch out!

3. If #1 is not possible, can someone recommend a single bucket style hydro system that is as simple and small (meaning I don't have room for some massive reservoir) that would be a good way for me to get a handle on growing sans soil.

Come winter time, you can try individual DWC with individual air stones. You don't need a reservoir, but you gotta make sure your water temps stay in check! For now, there are the Ebb & Grow type systems (either the C.A.P. pre-made ones or DIY), which is basically a flood and drain system. Talk to Rednick about that, he's been running that for a while. The pros about that kind of system is less hassle than RDWC, less leaks, and you can use more "thick" organic-based nutes like PBP, which is good if you are worried about flavor. The cons of these systems, you are dependent on timers, I hate timers, they always fuck up and break or reset. Also, you are filling a 5 gallon bucket to the top with hydroton! You will have a shit ton of medium to deal with, you'll be hauling rocks around! Or you can do it with rockwool, but then you are tossing a shit ton of rockwool after every harvest, and you are growing in fiber glass! I'm anti-rockwool personally, I don't want to further contribute to dwarfing the Rocky mountains with landfills. You can also play with some drip systems and things like that in the buckets! I've seen some amazing fast growth in some top fed bucket systems that are on constant drip. I've even seen people do aeroponic systems in the 5 gal buckets, put sprayers all over the sides of the buckets. But that is even more high-maintenance and problematic to run than RDWC, its just cheaper to setup because you won't need a chiller or an air pump.

Best of luck to ya in your endeavor, PM me if you need some specific help!

 

[Bobby Stainless]

Lets talk mpb/under current systems..


I am a total newb when it comes to any soiless/hydro style grow, but threads like jackmayeroff or whatever on the other site are very inspiring! I just checked out the under current systems and like that they aren't DIY and have customer support.. I know there are many many hydro experts on this thread. So..

1. Is this style grow doable with one or two buckets and a small reservoir?

(In other words could I do a mini mpb/undercurrent along side some soil plants in a 5x5 tent?)

The reason for that question is because again, I've never grown any other style than soil, but curiosity is making me wonder how well I could do in this application. I just can't commit an entire run to experimenting with this thing and making mistakes.

2. If question 1 is a go, is it worth the expense to to just do the 2 bucket system?

I'd probably go with canna nutes and figure tht as an expense, but how about chiller etc..

3. If #1 is not possible, can someone recommend a single bucket style hydro system that is as simple and small (meaning I don't have room for some massive reservoir) that would be a good way for me to get a handle on growing sans soil.


Let me know what ya think, there is a voice inside me repeating over and over "I wonder if I can maintain the SAME quality if I tried the hydro route".

Honestly I'm just cranky andtired of dealing with soil. Not growing in soil, but soil itself.

Thanks


Cheers!

I have used the 8 site GH water farm with good results.

It is really simple to use, and can be modified easily.

A few easy mods, and the system works great.

I have pulled a half pound off one bucket, when I was running Deep Congo in em.

You have to enlarge the holes in the drip line, or they will clog.

 

[Rednick]

If you are looking to just simplify your life and that is your reason for Hydro, then you could also try Toppf Blumats. That would just be a auto-drip for your soil.

IMO the progression goes like this (easiest/least technical know-how/room for fuck-ups >>>>>>>>>>> to hardest/most tech KH/least room for fuck ups)

Soil (Drain to Waste) > Coco (DTW), Hempy buckets, ect. > Ebb and Flow (R/W > Hydroton > other inert mediums) > (recirc)Deep Water Culture and Undercurrent > Aeroponics.

As you progress deeper into hydroponics you loose a lot of the buffering properties found in soil. Therefore more risk of something going wrong.
Risk vs. Reward.

Good luck.

 

[mule420]

Hey guys and gals of Colorado Name's Mule I'm a native... And here is a couple things I got going on...

Mom tent

The flower room

Jack cleaner 2 day 16

Room shot

Bagseed

Ebb N Gro

Room shot

 

[iSMOKE.KUSH]

those ebb and gro make plants explode!

 

[Greenmopho]

IMO the progression goes like this
(easiest/least technical know-how/room for fuck-ups >>>>>>>>>>> to hardest/most tech KH/least room for fuck ups)

Soil (Drain to Waste) > Coco (DTW), Hempy buckets, ect. > Ebb and Flow (R/W > Hydroton > other inert mediums) > (recirc)Deep Water Culture and Undercurrent > Aeroponics.

As you progress deeper into hydroponics you loose a lot of the buffering properties found in soil. Therefore more risk of something going wrong.
Risk vs. Reward.

Thats what I've always said.

For example, say you loose electricity all together. Not considering lights and ventilation, your plants could go in soil for about 3-4 days without any attention before they start to go droopy. In coco & hempy buckets, you've probably got about 24-36 hours before bad things happen. Without air and water pumps, Ebb & Flow you've got about 12-24 hours, DWC you have 10-12 hours max, and finally in aeroponics, you have minutes, not hours....you've been warned...LOL!

 

[Rednick]

Well said, Mopho.

And with R/W how much time you have depends on how much your ladies are drinking and how big your pads are. You have to physically test the pad for how saturated it is, don't put R/W on a timer, you will get root rot if you aren't paying attention.

 

[Greenmopho]

Well said, Mopho.

And with R/W how much time you have depends on how much your ladies are drinking and how big your pads are. You have to physically test the pad for how saturated it is, don't put R/W on a timer, you will get root rot if you aren't paying attention.

I've gone 8 days in 6" R/W cubes without watering before they started going droopy. If you want to know why, read my intro thread or my Oakland thread!

 

[onegreenday]

I think I'm going back to dirt cause I'm a real screw-up.........

 

[cannagirl]

^^that sucks, hope your next crop is greener