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In my experience with a sealed room RH rises as much as 25% shortly after the lights go out and a window unit has to be supplemented with a dehumid,I don't know about split units
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co2 controller help !
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ok i will def get myself the big ass dehumid , thanks chaps !
i actually have a co2 burner stashed away somewhere but it doesnt have a ppm counter or anything to controll it , i have to put a timer on it
(http://www.growell.co.uk/p/0899/CO2-Growth-Gas-Generator.html)
is this what you mean ? is it good enough ? do you think i can get an add on ppm controller for it ? it used to come in handy in winter , i just ran it lights out to keep the temps up !
i actually have a co2 burner stashed away somewhere but it doesnt have a ppm counter or anything to controll it , i have to put a timer on it
(http://www.growell.co.uk/p/0899/CO2-Growth-Gas-Generator.html)
is this what you mean ? is it good enough ? do you think i can get an add on ppm controller for it ? it used to come in handy in winter , i just ran it lights out to keep the temps up !
as far as ac goes i am having trouble sourcing a self install unit with enough btu to cover the possible temp issues , the max i can find at the moment is 9000btu so i would have to have multiples of these and that would look a bit weird if anyone ever caught sight of one room with shitloads of ac units lined up outside lol
i was actually thinking of eventually running 16 x 600 lights over 4 - 8x4 tables ,dripper fed coco.
i have 4 150 rucks and am planning on one aircooling every 4 lights ,
i was actually thinking of eventually running 16 x 600 lights over 4 - 8x4 tables ,dripper fed coco.
i have 4 150 rucks and am planning on one aircooling every 4 lights ,
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I wouldn't even consider it man,bottled gas is a pain in the ass..People make an issue over heat and generators which is totally unwarranted IMO,for a big grow you don't want gas man.Something you mentioned about running a burner with lights out pushes me to bring up a point that can be useful.Growing plants especially stretching plants during 12/12 put off a ton of co2 during lights out.I'd check my cap in the morning and 2500PPM was common so be aware in a sealed room enrichment normally isnt necessary when the lights come on.Thats why a controller is so important man my cyclestat would kick in at lights on and waste more propane.Besides that a controller keeps you to within around 200PPM of setpoint,extremely important for good results.Wide co2 fluctuations are not beneficial and thats what you get with a cyclestat timer.Get a burner and a controller or don't even bother is my advice after years of using cyclestats,portable AC's,I can go on and on with the mistakes haha.You will end with 2 lb per 1K with persistence though.
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i am asking for help and advice for something i am planning regarding co2 and aircon which if you read i said i have no experience of !
i have said i know nothing about them that is why i am asking the people who do !
so you can think what you like mate but if you do not want to help then please dont interfere either !
and please tell which bit of growing related newbishness you have seen to ring alarm bells ? other than the admitted lack of knowledge ?
i have said i know nothing about them that is why i am asking the people who do !
so you can think what you like mate but if you do not want to help then please dont interfere either !
and please tell which bit of growing related newbishness you have seen to ring alarm bells ? other than the admitted lack of knowledge ?
the whole point in me asking the people who know and thinking aloud is to save me buying equipment that is wrong for the job and wasting time ****ing things up when there are willing people here that can maybe help ?
sorry the ac question was on another thread http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=67064
sorry the ac question was on another thread http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=67064
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BD I've been growing for years and if you think I'd post my felonies for posterity you are sadly mistaken.Never judge a book by it's lack of covers..We all have decisions to make
there are lots of reasons why i do not post pics , all of them security issues !
the only time i post pics is when i have a plant illness and need help with a diagnosis .
and i only post for information , help or to compliment , feel free to look through my posts !
i only actually found this site because of the generator thread started by I.M.BOGGLED and continued by golddust woman , and it seemed a good place to learn and share .
the only time i post pics is when i have a plant illness and need help with a diagnosis .
and i only post for information , help or to compliment , feel free to look through my posts !
i only actually found this site because of the generator thread started by I.M.BOGGLED and continued by golddust woman , and it seemed a good place to learn and share .
hahahhha nice one jarff i didnt think of that for some reason ! thanks alot
i have been looking at a few gas burners and the biggest , easiest available one is a GAS PRO 12 burner unit ?
does anyone have any experience of these ? i was looking for a blueox as i have heard of these before but getting one in or to europe doesnt seem very easy ! and to be honest apart from the colour they look and perform the same from what i can read !
edit - just found a blueox seller willing to send internationally !
which would be the better choice ? anyone know ?
i have been looking at a few gas burners and the biggest , easiest available one is a GAS PRO 12 burner unit ?
does anyone have any experience of these ? i was looking for a blueox as i have heard of these before but getting one in or to europe doesnt seem very easy ! and to be honest apart from the colour they look and perform the same from what i can read !
edit - just found a blueox seller willing to send internationally !
which would be the better choice ? anyone know ?
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ok blinddate i have two possible rooms available , one is roughly 5x5m and the other is 8x7m . i have 80- 90 amps available my initial thinking was to use the bigger of the 2 rooms in winter only and use eventually 24 lights ! this i extraction cooled growing i can handle easily , but that is a shitload of air cooling and hot air venting in winter. which is a problem unless it goes up a chimney like smoke so doesnt attract any attention if seen !
but on reading the WPSF needed with co2 enrichment , i am thinking i could use the smaller room which is a seperate farm building with eventually 16x600 and aircon and completely seal it .
it is the top level of a 2 story building i could put the outside bit of the split aircon on the roof out of sight and carry on as normal with no real security worries !
this is why i am trying to get some other peoples angles on this venture , as the co2 , aircon etc are an idea that has just occured to me , they where not even considered in my original thinking .
and i tried not to mention the potential wattage use as i knew this would attract unwanted attention !
i have now found available aircon with split self install units up to 36000 btu which is a bonus .
but on reading the WPSF needed with co2 enrichment , i am thinking i could use the smaller room which is a seperate farm building with eventually 16x600 and aircon and completely seal it .
it is the top level of a 2 story building i could put the outside bit of the split aircon on the roof out of sight and carry on as normal with no real security worries !
this is why i am trying to get some other peoples angles on this venture , as the co2 , aircon etc are an idea that has just occured to me , they where not even considered in my original thinking .
and i tried not to mention the potential wattage use as i knew this would attract unwanted attention !
i have now found available aircon with split self install units up to 36000 btu which is a bonus .
thanks jarff i got 4x 600 running all year round at the moment but come winter it gets as low as -20 here 
, i have to nearly stop my extraction to keep the temps anything like right !
i cannot add any extra heating as i am running off a very limited electric supply at the moment .
the power for the bigger set up is generator supplied and gives me 80amps of 230v to play with , so if i am running it i may aswell use it all
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then i can just run a couple of grows through the winter and enjoy the summer outdoors !
, i have to nearly stop my extraction to keep the temps anything like right ! i cannot add any extra heating as i am running off a very limited electric supply at the moment .
the power for the bigger set up is generator supplied and gives me 80amps of 230v to play with , so if i am running it i may aswell use it all
.then i can just run a couple of grows through the winter and enjoy the summer outdoors !
help needed again !
i just got the prices in on propane and co2 , co2 per 30kg is cheaper by about a third ?
so does anyone know roughly which will be more economical ? how long roughly will i get from 30kg of each with a 5m x 5m room and say 12 lights for now ?
if it would be the same then it is more economical for me to go with co2 !
not as easily explainable to nosey people but the co2 is in slightly smaller bottles is easier to hide, no fire risk and less heat to aircon cool !
if anyone knows anything can you please give me some feedback as i just got a chance of a few co2 bottles cheap and have to decide pretty quickly which way to go !
thank you
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i just got the prices in on propane and co2 , co2 per 30kg is cheaper by about a third ?
so does anyone know roughly which will be more economical ? how long roughly will i get from 30kg of each with a 5m x 5m room and say 12 lights for now ?
if it would be the same then it is more economical for me to go with co2 !
not as easily explainable to nosey people but the co2 is in slightly smaller bottles is easier to hide, no fire risk and less heat to aircon cool !
if anyone knows anything can you please give me some feedback as i just got a chance of a few co2 bottles cheap and have to decide pretty quickly which way to go !
thank you
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i would really like to set CO2 up in my room, what do you guys think is the most economic yet reliable system??
