Nicedreamz
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Cloning with JJScorpio
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first time ever cloning done in Jiffy7 pucks..cheap powder hormone..plastic cup and a ziplock bag..
ROOTED IN 8 DAYS
DIDNT CUT ON ANGLE,DIDNT CUT UP THE MIDDLE OR SCRAPE THE STEM OR MAKE A CUT UNDER WATER WITH A RAZOR.. HACKED STRAIGHT ACROSS DIPPED IN HORMONE AND STUCK IN JIFFY. DONE DEAL
Good job there
I use jiffys too and they've never failed me.8 days is about the fastest I've seen roots - but not coming out of the sides like that. That usually takes a couple of days more.
plantsman
Member
Phew, this thread took some time to read...
I've had nightmares with clones for about 6 months and have, at present, about a 30% success rate!
I seem to be doing everything mentioned in this post by JJ but they are still alive after 4 weeks and no roots showing. Its very frustrating!
I use 100% perlite, as Dr Bud does, because this has given me the best...sorry, least poor, results up to now.
The only thing I can think of is that I let the medium dry out too much and mist them for too long...
Im going to stop misting after about a week to see if this helps. Up until now I have been misting until they root.
Basically, how often should I water my perlite? I guess its hard to overwater with 100% perlite, but I had a massive problem with roots rotting when I was using a soil/vermiculite/perlite mix so I'm a little scared about doing the same thing.
I've now bought canna bio-rhizotonic thingy cos I thought it cant hurt. I also mist with a very weak bio-heaven and nitozyme mix once a week, as I was told this would help.
Any advice would be really helpful.
Thanks
wicked thread by the way
I've had nightmares with clones for about 6 months and have, at present, about a 30% success rate!
I seem to be doing everything mentioned in this post by JJ but they are still alive after 4 weeks and no roots showing. Its very frustrating!
I use 100% perlite, as Dr Bud does, because this has given me the best...sorry, least poor, results up to now.
The only thing I can think of is that I let the medium dry out too much and mist them for too long...
Im going to stop misting after about a week to see if this helps. Up until now I have been misting until they root.
Basically, how often should I water my perlite? I guess its hard to overwater with 100% perlite, but I had a massive problem with roots rotting when I was using a soil/vermiculite/perlite mix so I'm a little scared about doing the same thing.
I've now bought canna bio-rhizotonic thingy cos I thought it cant hurt. I also mist with a very weak bio-heaven and nitozyme mix once a week, as I was told this would help.
Any advice would be really helpful.
Thanks
wicked thread by the way
If you are using just perlite the water is just going to run through and not hold any. Have you tried buying and trying the rapid rooters? They make it easy to keep the right moisture on the stems. If it's not financially possible to get them, try mixing 50 percent vermiculite with the perlite for water retention....
Are you using a dome? If so, try just misting the inside of the dome daily. That should help them.
Are you using a dome? If so, try just misting the inside of the dome daily. That should help them.
EmeraldHaze
Member
So I've read through the initial guide to this page, so if I missed this please let me know.
The deal is, my buddy has 2 plants in veg that are really scrawny. I think he had some light problems the first 2 weeks from seed, but they are small (maybe 6-8") and in their fourth or fifth week of veg growing steadily for the last week or so.
Our goal is to take at least 1 cutting from each of these small vegging plants in about 6 weeks. The question I have is this: in order to facilitate the best clones (in terms of size, not necessarily rooting time), should we keep the plants in veg the entire time until the cut, or switch to 12/12 in order to have the initial stretching phase help make the would-be clones larger?
They are vegging under a 250w MH and would be in 12/12 with a 400w HPS.
This is the first time either of us have taken clones, and we anticipate using an anti-wilting solution and rapid rooters.
The deal is, my buddy has 2 plants in veg that are really scrawny. I think he had some light problems the first 2 weeks from seed, but they are small (maybe 6-8") and in their fourth or fifth week of veg growing steadily for the last week or so.
Our goal is to take at least 1 cutting from each of these small vegging plants in about 6 weeks. The question I have is this: in order to facilitate the best clones (in terms of size, not necessarily rooting time), should we keep the plants in veg the entire time until the cut, or switch to 12/12 in order to have the initial stretching phase help make the would-be clones larger?
They are vegging under a 250w MH and would be in 12/12 with a 400w HPS.
This is the first time either of us have taken clones, and we anticipate using an anti-wilting solution and rapid rooters.
plantsman
Member
Im gonna get some rapid rooters. After reading this post it seems like the best option. But the wife is away at the moment and I get her to order all those kinda things to her work address!
In the meantime I will try mixing some vermiculite in. However, i've got about 20 clones which are in 100% perlite and not doing a thing. Should I perhaps sit the bottom 5mm in water? Or just water them every day with a teaspoon of water? Or should I switch them into verm/perl mix with aother addition of some rooting hormone?
I do use a dome (2 purpose bought propogator units) and mist the inides regularly. Humidity is at 100% in the dome with brand new cuttings in and the one with 3/4 week old cuttings is at 80% with the holes open.
Thanks JJ, I really need to crack this final hurdle
Nearly 8am here, time to burn one...
first time grower w fem seeds on the way, this thread is a huge help, and made easy... thanks
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cracker420
thanks for the good info
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cracker420
so is a heat mat a good idea? or no? i have a heatmatt under my tray with a mondi humidity dome and 2 cfls running on it. is that too much?
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cracker420
thanks man.
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cracker420
thanks for the info jj. i took a little heat off my cloning tray and BOOM!!! they literally greened up over night!!
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silent_lemon
very solid thread man, thanks for the great info - im trying to salvage a group of 35 clones from a single mother.
i have a heat mat, set at 75-80, the temp inside the dome is 80 the temp outside is 75. Humidity is 90-100, and ive recently read in this thread i should crack for some air after 5 days or so - ive started doing that after all theyre on day 6 i believe
i removed 5-10 yellow leaves already and they look so-so healthy, but they all are drooping like a silly sock sucker. My initial impression is too much water, but i havent done ANY watering...just misting the insides of the dome once a day.
they were inserted with rooting gel into peat pellets. They started breaking apart after the first day in the dome, and werent holding their shape. I used my normal soil i use for veg, full of all the amendments, and inserted the jiffy's into the minipots. they were doing a lot better standing upright, then they started drooping. Is this not enough humidity and too much real air or not enough water/too much? i think im onto something but also so lost.
any help for a fix please?
i have a heat mat, set at 75-80, the temp inside the dome is 80 the temp outside is 75. Humidity is 90-100, and ive recently read in this thread i should crack for some air after 5 days or so - ive started doing that after all theyre on day 6 i believe
i removed 5-10 yellow leaves already and they look so-so healthy, but they all are drooping like a silly sock sucker. My initial impression is too much water, but i havent done ANY watering...just misting the insides of the dome once a day.
they were inserted with rooting gel into peat pellets. They started breaking apart after the first day in the dome, and werent holding their shape. I used my normal soil i use for veg, full of all the amendments, and inserted the jiffy's into the minipots. they were doing a lot better standing upright, then they started drooping. Is this not enough humidity and too much real air or not enough water/too much? i think im onto something but also so lost.
any help for a fix please?
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dazednconfused
Member
JJScorps in the house!!
hey, was wondering if you could help me out with a question regarding this topic..
need a good idea on how large you have to grow a plant to cut approximately 100 decent clones from it, i'm thinking 3-4 months but not sure... a visual would be nice
or
how many cuts is ideal under 1 - 1000w MH, given 3-4 months or w/e???
thx JJSCORPS!!!
hey, was wondering if you could help me out with a question regarding this topic..
need a good idea on how large you have to grow a plant to cut approximately 100 decent clones from it, i'm thinking 3-4 months but not sure... a visual would be nice
or
how many cuts is ideal under 1 - 1000w MH, given 3-4 months or w/e???
thx JJSCORPS!!!
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silent_lemon
i like what youve said as it contradicts my process and shows i may be doing something incorrectly; are you sure the dome is supposed to dry out after a day? after all it IS a humidity dome.. i hope im at fault and this is a quick fix, some of them are looking up, but some just want to die it seems, or theyre "hitting the dirt" har har..
ps. i was using peat pellets, then embedding them in a small container surrounding the pellet with good soil, but i purchased rapid rooters, theyre so awesome. again, very good thread
Cyber9
Member
Awesome thread man, cloning is the one area I'm really lacking in, I've only had 1 root outa like 40+, tho 36 of those were in a ez-cloner that never rooted... and the 1 that did in the rockwool cube, well i pulled it out thinking it didnt root like the rest.
Does when you take the clone matter? Like right before lights off or lights on.. right now Im running 20/4...
Also have you tried gel over powder? I just ask cause i have a thing of gel still..
As well have you done this method with tops? I'm about to top my plants.. beats throwing the tops away..
Does when you take the clone matter? Like right before lights off or lights on.. right now Im running 20/4...
Also have you tried gel over powder? I just ask cause i have a thing of gel still..
As well have you done this method with tops? I'm about to top my plants.. beats throwing the tops away..
