Cloning in straight Coco?

[*mistress*]

1.
prep mum... this mean selecting best branch, from best plant.
very important. this is genetic legacy. select only most vigorous branches/shoots, to continue line.
different parts of the same plant may grow differently.
if take 4 cuts from same plant & keep alive for, say, 1 yr, may view different growth patterns from those 4 cuts - taken from same mum...
maybe, genetic drift... maybe some branches just express dominance of genotype, while other branches express recessive traits..
either/or, found that selection of cuts that carry desirable traits, critical...

2.
6" (15cm) shoot/branch, w/ minimum 2 inter-nodes that will go beneath surface.
though, cut may only be 2" long... practice w/ different parts of the plant... lower branches (most juvenile/youngest) seem to be less woodier & able to grow roots faster...

3.
clean, sharp tools. clean, single cuts... less damage to cut, or mum.
after cutting mum, spray wound area w/ h202, to prevent any infections of mum.
re-spray next day...

4.
coco/perlite 50/50... or... as thread title state, 100% coco...media drenched w/ water, then weak fert solution... gh florilicious bloom/gh bioroots 1-1-1 work well...

5.
cut removed from mum by 1 cut... once removed, bottom 1" (2.5cm) of outer layer of tissue is removed, leaving cambium layer... as pointed out, here:

Found that removeing a complete circle of the outer stem is the main factor in reliably air layering canna and tomatoes quickly , over 100 now with just a handfull of losses and one which produced shoots for some reason.

unlike that pic, which makes the circle in the ~middle of the stem, while on the plant, when cutting from the plant, the bottom 1" of outer-skin (tissue) is removed.

the roots form & protrude out from the area exactly where the cut is made on the stem... @ meeting of the exposed cambium layer & the un-removed skin of the remainder of the stem...

6.
place cut into container w/ 100% coco, or 50% coco/50% perlite... w/ @ least the skinned portion of the lower stem in the media.

gh bioroots/floralicious bloom, both 1-1-1, work well, from day 1 - when roots come thru 6" container.
equal volume of water as media saturates media, before plant goes in, to soak & get wet... then they get fed ^ nutes @ 1/2 tsp/1 liter spray bottle.

7.
no humidity domes, no daily misting, no rooting hormones/powders, etc...
watered w/ diluted florilicious b, or bio roots, @ >500ppm/ph 5.0-5.5...
roots should show thru 6" container in 14-21 days. depends on cultivar...

8.
additional selection...
if take 4 cuts, the 2 that show roots 1st... the 2 that show new growth 1st... the 2 that burn/yellow/get bacterial attack, etc get culled, even if fully rooted & can survive...

this is artificial selection for strongest genotypical expression, observed in varyin branches.
can get 100% success, but prefer 50% of strongest to continue lines...

hope this helps.

enjoy your garden!

 

[foo_bird]

I grow in coco/charcoal 60/40 and thats what I clone in
no transplanting take cutting dip in rooting gel than into
the pot it'll spend its life in works for me

 

[High Country]

I grow in coco/charcoal 60/40 and thats what I clone in
no transplanting take cutting dip in rooting gel than into
the pot it'll spend its life in works for me

Why not, that will work too.

 

[captain.koons]

I've cloned in straight coco and liked it. I tend to do bigger clones in straight coco where as I tend to do smaller clones in jiffy pellets.

I'd like to try out Head's method of cloning which is using a styrofoam egg carton and filling each egg holder with coco and poking a couple small holes into each holder to facilitate drainage. This is similar to jiffy pucks.

I'd like to learn more about raising small cuttings as I've only done larger cuttings.

 

[Prime8]

I'm wondering about the scarification/removal of plant integument. Would fine nicks suffice?

Feel very confident about coco cloning after reading this.

 

[DocLeaf]

Anyone do it or is it all Jiffy Plugs and Rapid Rooters for you guys?

Putting together a sticky of clone techniques and want to cover as many basic methods as possible.

Thanks
FB

Yes, we have cloned in plain 2nd hand coco a few times. Normally though we throw in a hand full of compost or wormcast ,,so that beneficial bacteria can get to work on the root nodes.

peace

 

[OjoRojo420]

Coco is the way!

 

[Harinama]

I did a lot of clone testing over the last few months, and ended up with:

Place clones dipped in olivia's cloning gel in rapid rooters, presoaked with b1. Place rapid rooters in rr tray(deep cone-shaped cells), with enough water on bottom to soak rr's 1/8". Place tray on heated seed mat, and cover with dome. I place this all on the floor, to keep temps lower, more consistent. Room temp is always 75-80deg.

I am now achieving first roots in 6-7 days, full rooting within 10, and 100% effectiveness. I am working with 6 new strains, however, so we'll see if that efficiency holds up.

So: cloninggel, rapidrooter/tray, 1/8" water on bottom, heating mat, dome, 75deg temp.

 

[bobblehead]

I am officially a badass. I have made clones with no rooting hormone.

I took my cuts with scissors, put them in solo cups with dry 50/50 coco/perlite, and NO ROOTING HORMONES. Then I water then with water straight out of the tap, and put them in my clone tub (it's a rubbermade w/ panda plastic, 2 flouros, and 2 computer fans. Once they dried out, I watered them with pH 6.0 water.

This has not worked 100%, I did lose a few cuts, but not many. With Clonex I don't lose any. Just wanted to share. It's about your technique I suppose.

 

[High Country]

I am officially a badass. I have made clones with no rooting hormone.

I took my cuts with scissors, put them in solo cups with dry 50/50 coco/perlite, and NO ROOTING HORMONES. Then I water then with water straight out of the tap, and put them in my clone tub (it's a rubbermade w/ panda plastic, 2 flouros, and 2 computer fans. Once they dried out, I watered them with pH 6.0 water.

This has not worked 100%, I did lose a few cuts, but not many. With Clonex I don't lose any. Just wanted to share. It's about your technique I suppose.

A friend of mine uses honey instead of Clonex. She swears by it and I have seen the results. Quite impressive, it works.

 

[theHIGHlander]

i clone in coco......just plain old coco....


keep it green
highlander

 

[generalgrievous]

i do it .... coco/beer cups/cfl... 100%, i'm never in a hurry for roots, it's not fast.

simple, easy, no trays, no domes, no gadgets...

 

[rocky5]

took these 1 week ago,just plonked them in little coco pots with some formulex
scared the bottom of the clones and thats it,i had roots show yesterdy so that would be
6 days the first roots showed.

 

[jessejames12345]

what do you guys find the most effective way of 'scaring' the cuts before you dip them ?


peace
jj

 

[rocky5]

what do you guys find the most effective way of 'scaring' the cuts before you dip them ?


peace
jj

just scrape/ slice to get the outer layers off with a razor
its just like taking skin of patatoes or carrots or something.

 

[YosemiteSam]

Straight coco here in beer cups. A warm (80-85F) room with humidity around 60-65% and couldn't be easier.

 

[theHIGHlander]

its got to the stage were i just take cuts and put them right into coco..i never use Rooting gel and yet to lose a cut in the last 12month ive done it this way


keep it green
highlander

 

[rocky5]

its got to the stage were i just take cuts and put them right into coco..i never use Rooting gel and yet to lose a cut in the last 12month ive done it this way


keep it green
highlander

same here mate i use nothing eccept formulex,i would say this is the easiest part of all the stages in my grow.
rockwool is a bit prone to be too dry or too wet,i still use rockwool
for seeds as im still a bit iffy incase there is something in the
coco to affect seeds but i will try soon.

 

[High Country]

Hiko tray filled with 60/40 coco/perlite.

HIKO TRAY

40 CLONES

THIS IS WHAT THEY LOOK LIKE WHEN DONE

 

[!!!]

I've cloned + sprouted seeds in straight coco with EXCELLENT results.

I use clear plastic cups and I make sure there's no standing water on the bottom (ALWAYS leads to damping off otherwise.)