Breeding for the best stimulating effect

[Carraxe]

Hi

I've started picking some of the male flowers of the reversed TAM cut. I don't know if it will be easy to take the pollen out of them, but there are a crazy amount of flowers and some of them have started opening and showing the little bananas. I have read that it usually takes way more time to get the first pollen out of a reversed female than from a normal male, but I haven't got much experience myself.

If I am successful with these pollinations, I would like to see these crosses growing out there. These are some of the ones I've already made or plan to make in the next weeks with this reversed TAM.

1.- TAM F2, feminised and regular. I have already made the regular ones with the select cut of TAM and 4 different males selected from seed. Risk of endogamic features due to the Mextiza genetics. These are the F2 for what I find to be the best weed in the world

2.- {(Thai Angola)xMextiza} x Thai Angola. (25% Mextiza, 75% Thai Angola) Backcross made crossing this reversed selected TAM cut with the original Thai Angola cut. Feminised. I believe this one will have the high of a pure 100% totally high schizo sativa and some extra resin and growing energy from the Mextiza. I'd love to see this one outdoors. This could be a nice tribute for an unique Angola Thai distribution made years ago that has its own historical value: for some people, like me, this plant represents what a real sativa strain should be. Not a weak herma freaky landrace, but also not a hybrid as we know. Very little trichomes, very long pistils, very little flowers, very thin leaves, very slender plants. 12 weeker, all-in-the brain effect, subtle aromas to anise and lavender.

3.- TAM x Jack Herer (feminised and regular). I have already made the regular ones with the old JH cut and several TAM males selected from seed. Now I'm taking the pollen from the reversed TAM clone to pollinate the Jack. Wish me luck, I deserve to get this done. I could get a sativa leaning hybrid, fast, aromatic and productive, with the best of both worlds, production and stimulating effect. I have a felling of abundance (in the paleolithic mamooth-eating festing way) when I think about hundreds of seeds of it.

4.- Thai Angola x Jack Herer. Already made and grown a couple of times as you can see in this thread. Feminised. I was lucky, I got a result that is productive (of course, not as much as a Jack Herer, and not so aromatic) but the effect is good.

5.- (JH x Thai Angola)xJH. Another interesting backcross I plan to make, using some Thai Angola x Jack Herer selected some months ago for their compact bud structure. So the result would be something compact as a Jack, but with an effect more in the sativa side. For this, I'll have to STS the JH again. Remember that the Jack is a cut with more than 20 years of life, and getting something similar from seed would be very nice and much more vital, and a lifesaver in case I lose it. Maybe I should do F2 from this Jack as well.

If you have been around here for a while, you like this kind of weed, and you believe you could grow some of these seed soon and give back some opinion and pictures, let me know and I'll try to get them there.

Cheers

 

[Carraxe]

The plant I STSed produced a lot of male flowers and I starting harvesting them a week ago. I just shake the branches and gently rub them, and many flowers start falling in a bowl placed under them.

At the beginning it looked like no pollen was produced, but after several days drying and a little flower crushing, I believe there is some yellow powder. I used a strainer to filter it and I pollinated my Jack Herer and a Thai Angola, and I'll repeat the procedure in a week or so, to get a better harvest. Also, the Thai Angola is slow and it has very few flowers yet, after just two weeks of 12/12.

I also plan to use this pollen from TAM (Thai Angola x Mextiza) to pollinate the selected compact productive pheno of Jack Herer x Thai Angola. So I can get a female bunch of seeds that carry most of Thai Angola high with some indoor abilities, faster and more productive than Thai Angola, and probably stronger. Let's see what I get.

The flowers in the pic are the fresh ones I harvested today, not the dried ones I used to pollinate. I hope it goes well, these are some of the most interesting crosses I plan to make. Well, anything with Thai Angola Mextiza on it IS interesting for me.

By the way, I have already planted some dozens of seeds of TAM x Black Domina and TAM x Jack Herer, but in its regular version. I need to see what comes out of it.

Cheers

 

[Carraxe]

I've started a test grow to see how these first regular seeds of Jack Herer x TAM and Black Domina x TAM behave. I used several TAM males. It will serve to have an approximation of the feminized cross, made with selected females.

I planted more from the BDxTAM, maybe too many, since I made this cross out of pure curiosity and it doesn't affect my breeding work with sativas.

Cheers

 

[Carraxe]

This is the Thai Angola x Jack Herer I selected based on production and bud shape. Most of them were similar in taste. I've just potted it in a 3l pot, and now it is about 50/60 cm tall.

I like the slender shape and weedy stems. The stem still has this kind of polygonal twist shape, like her mum Thai Angola, but this one is greener while the Thai Angola cut is way reddish.

The high is quite strong now after 4 months curing. It tastes nice and I get high for hours.

Cheers

 

[Carraxe]

These plants are the Thai Angola and the Jack Herer I pollinated some weeks ago with feminised pollen from the TAM cut. Now they are at 7 weeks and I've just started adding some extra PK. I love them.

I don't know yet if I got some seeds from the pollination. I believe some calyxes are swollen, but it is early to make a conclussion. I'll cut the Jack at 10 weeks, but the Thai Angola would need some more weeks to properly mature. These little tiny flowers and trichomes with the very long and thin pistils are very attractive to the sativa lover.

Some pics of the Thai Angola:

And this is the Jack:

Sweet smokes

 

[Carraxe]

Hi. Just some news.

While the pollination with the feminized TAM didn't look very effective (I just cut the pollinated plants but I can't see any grown seed in the pollinated Jack Herer nor in the pollinated THAI ANGOLA), the last pollination I made with Jack Herer feminized pollen looked good, and both the TAM and the Black Domina I pollinated had most of pistils browned several hours later.

It is still soon to make any conclussion, but it looks good. I'll upload some pictures.

Next pollination I'm planning involves some TAMs from seed, and I will use the males, several of them, to pollinate the original THAI ANGOLA. These TAM were planted some weeks ago and I plan to put them to flower before 1 month.

Cheers

 

[Carraxe]

As I promised, these are the pictures of the Thai Angola Mextiza and the Black Domina I just pollinated. I swear that the pistil's color under the eye is darker than it appears in the pics. In a week or two, if the pollination worked, the flowers showld start swelling.

In some days I'll pollinate again both these plants and two more, a Jack Herer for S1 and a Thai Angola, since the feminized JackHerer x ThaiAngola seeds I made some months ago resulted to be very good and I want to have some more. And I'll also pollinate the JackHerer x ThaiAngola I selected by its bud structure and good production.

TAM (very thin and slender leaves):

Black Domina (look at these wide leaves)

Sweet smokes

 

[Carraxe]

I just put this bunch of plants gone wild into a flowering tent. They are all from seed, Jack Herer x TAM and Black Domina x TAM. Since these plants come from regular seeds, I'll have to cull the males in a couple of weeks. By their general structure, they look like they inherited some of the TAM indomitable sativa energy

Sweet smokes.

 

[Carraxe]

After a lot of failures pollinating plants with reversed pollen, I have to say that finally I've succeeded. Although I couldn't cross my reversed TAM with the Jack before, I could now cross the reversed Jack Herer with the selected TAM clone, and that's the same cross, but done in the opposite way.

That's a cross I really wanted to do, a productive fast Jack with a vital powerful sativa like ThaiAngolaMexico, the one I like the most. So this cross would be called feminised JHxTAM and it is made from two wonderful selected clones. The Jack seems to be the plant that works the best with STS.

Similar plants made crossing males from the original regular TAM seeds (Jack Herer x TAM males) are already flowering, so I can compare the effect of parental selection. Also, there could be differences if I made the cross the other way, so I can also compare.

That's the TAM showing some callyx swelling:

I also used this Jack Herer reversed pollen in some other females I had ready, like
-the same Jack for S1
-Thai Angola to make more ThaiAngola x JH seeds, I planted a bunch and they are good
-The Thai x JH I selected in the last run for its compact buds and good production
-Black Domina to make a very Dutch 90's hybrid, productive and powerful.

This is the Black Domina, also showing calyx swelling. There will be great things out of these seeds.

Cheers

 

[Carraxe]

These are the crosses I made with the TAM males. All the plants have inherited the extremely fast flowering start the Mextiza had: in just one week 12/12, I had the sex of all the plants figured out. I have 14 females out of 24 plants. Also, they grow quite fast.

They look very much like TAM, even the cross I made with a Black Domina (on the contrary as any weed in this thread, BD is a pure indica)

I believe that the cross between the TAM and the Jack will be fast, productive and will have a nice effect, so I am eager for finishing them as soon as possible to smoke them. I have also great expectations with the same feminized cross.

Sweet smokes

 

[Dentex]

Lookin' real nice! Curious how you will find the highs compared to the parent you used.

 

[Carraxe]

Lookin' real nice! Curious how you will find the highs compared to the parent you used.

Yes, I'm curious too. I guess I'll have to smoke all these plants to know, hehehe

 

[Carraxe]

I just repotted in 3l pots these 15/20 Thai Angola Mextiza I am growing from seed. I am going to enjoy the smoke for sure, but I also plan to use the pollen from the males I get to pollinate the Thai Angola cut.

The objective is to grow plants that carry most of the distinct Thai Angola bouquet and effect, with a stronger punch, a faster harvest and some more resin. Also, I plan to select the plants with the stronger African bitter taste, because I believe that this backcross can enhance some of the most aggressive aromatic features, which, by the way, I adore and find unique.

Don't get fooled by its innocent slender weedy aspect. I spent a couple of months avoiding this weed (even if it is my favorite one ever) because I had plenty of different ones to smoke. When I smoked a joint yesterday in a park with some friends, I got much higher than expected. This weed has a strong stimulating sativa high that provides a very happy trip that's fantastic for partying, making music, anything. And the flavor... oh my!

This cross, Thai Angola Mexico, has been my holy grail since discovered. And it also is the perfect example of how an unique weed like Mextiza provides some characteristics to its crosses that allow real magic to happen. Very slow, stretchy and pain-in-the ass sativas become tamed, easy and tasty. TAM pollen is a gift from the nature that I plan to use.

Sweet smokes

 

[Carraxe]

These are some pics of my last successful pollination using feminised pollen from a reversed JH from the 90s. Pollinated plants are in their 39th flowering day.

TAM. I didn't get many flowers pollinated, but I believe they will be enough, like I will get two or three dozens of female TAM x JH seeds. This strain really shows a wonderful amount of aromatic resin.

Black Domina. This one is growing a lot of big fat seeds. If my best wishes are accomplished, this cross will be a dirty super-productive hybrid in the 90's Dutch style. For sure a heavy body effect that has nothing to do with all the sativa energy I've been sharing in this thread. I just put some pics because I really want to grow this one and I'm proud of getting it done.

This one is the Jack Herer impregnated with itself to make S1 seeds. That's a nice hybrid that has consistently passed its characteristics to its descendants, that's why I really doubt it is a F1. I'll grow these seeds and I'll know what's inside this cut. It looks like I'll have a hundred seeds, that's enough for a while.

And this last one is the Thai Angola Jack Herer I selected for its compact productive buds. The amount of resin it produces is astonishing for such a narrow leaved sativa, she's been flowering for just four weeks, and she'll need a while to mature.

Sweet smokes