They are pretty strong by my standards. I got a bunch of f13 x c99 from that seven of nine mom too. I really like the f13 by itself and figure I'd probably look through the THH x f13 before the cindy cross, especially after seeing the beautiful things you did with yours. Sorry I copied that mix but I couldnt resist! haha! Got a few out of the Ohaze with the f13 male aswell. Did you use the haze males or the f13 I sort of thought you also had the same steril f13 male issue back then but its been too long to recall. I only got a handful of the thhf13 maybe 20 out of the ohaze but the newer pheno's. Have a good one man!great job on these @LostTribe, metal cindy sounds amazing, can imagine this one will smoke well to say the least. Enjoy!