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Cinderella 99 The Come Back
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You hit the nail on the head with soul being one of the originators of the online Canna scene. Dates all the way back to the BBS services of yesteryear and a thing called the “88 club”. Aeric77 of Cali-O fame was one of the people in the group as well.
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Crazy Chester
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"Several different clones of the original C99 still exist, but they are very closely guarded." I believe that too, Mr. D.
In my opinion, whoever has them should pass them around a bit more. When they are gone - they are really gone - whereas if the clone holder passed some out, he/she might get it back if he/she ends up losing it in some catastrophe.
Example: I was a long time lurker on the boards. Consequently, I knew no one but me who grew and kept clones. So, my original issue Brothers Grimm C99 clone I had to watch die about 10 years ago from what was a mystery disease at the time (cyclomen, russet or broad mites) and she was gone for good.
Maybe if I had given her to someone, that someone could have given her back to me and I would still have her. Alas, that didn't happen.[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]
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In my opinion, whoever has them should pass them around a bit more. When they are gone - they are really gone - whereas if the clone holder passed some out, he/she might get it back if he/she ends up losing it in some catastrophe.
Example: I was a long time lurker on the boards. Consequently, I knew no one but me who grew and kept clones. So, my original issue Brothers Grimm C99 clone I had to watch die about 10 years ago from what was a mystery disease at the time (cyclomen, russet or broad mites) and she was gone for good.
Maybe if I had given her to someone, that someone could have given her back to me and I would still have her. Alas, that didn't happen.[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]
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Fitzera
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This is my best of the fem version of the new release. At 5 weeks of 12/12 now. Topped twice. Only doubled in stretch...like just barely doubled. Starting to need support. Not quite pineapple and not quite grapefruit, it has some funk kicking in.
I have another that was a runt and has had nothing but issues (found my ph meter was way out of calibration). Its very indica but it has the juicy sweet tropical smell going on.
I have another that was a runt and has had nothing but issues (found my ph meter was way out of calibration). Its very indica but it has the juicy sweet tropical smell going on.
Looks a lot like my #4 of the recent New99 release.
The Ultimate Search and Rescue Mission
It has been a number of years since this thread came about. It has seen much worthwhile discussion regarding my long hard fought search for this plant as well as everyone contributing positivity and knowledge of everyones search for a plant, which was to me and many others held in the highest regard. Sure it was 20 years ago, but at the time it surpassed every other plant I had grown in most every way imaginable.
We grew several packs each of nearly every indoor specific varietal available of Pre-98 Sensi Seed stock, as well as many others.
When I first found the description at the now defunct Heaven's Stairway I really didn't believe it. They were 10 seeds for $150 and back then that was comparable to Jack, Marleys, Mr. Nice from SS. Then I stumbled around the internet and found Mr. Soul posting about the strains available at CW. Until recently the posts were still there but I believe they have now been deleted.
People on the boards were very impressed with her in a lot of ways. 7 week finish, Super resin production, Super fruity smells some fruit punch ( My favorite was a hawaiian punch) to pineapple and some grapefruit. The high from smoking the encrusted goodness was like nothing else I had at the time. All clear up in the head motivational and to some too strong of an experience.
Since the day I lost them and her until now I have searched and searched every seed line with folks claiming to have this Holy Grail variety preserved. I even went to meet with Mr. Soul outside of Denver, Colorado.
I shared my recent C99 with him and we agreed after much discussion that nearly all of the currently available C99 left plenty to be desired and he assured me as he has others that he retains Princess and Genius. I was happy with the new release, but it is just that. New99, at least to myself having known the original girls.
I wanted to give up so many times seeing everyone else going with the new genetics of tomorrow, but still just couldn't give up on the past.
Just recently I stumbled upon some old breeding boards and saw that at around 2004 a breeder by the name Charles Baudelaire once had supplied what many believed to be the best however limited availability of remaining Cinderella genetics. I searched far and wide and finally I found him. He like Mr. Soul has re emerged and I reached out to him. From our conversations I was convinced that if I was going to find authentic Brothers Grimm F2 C99 he was most likely my last chance at finding those sweet fruity potent genetics.
So here we are Brothers, still searching for the Holy Grail.
C99
Pic dump coming soon at 25 days 12/12...TO BE CONTINUED.....
LT
It has been a number of years since this thread came about. It has seen much worthwhile discussion regarding my long hard fought search for this plant as well as everyone contributing positivity and knowledge of everyones search for a plant, which was to me and many others held in the highest regard. Sure it was 20 years ago, but at the time it surpassed every other plant I had grown in most every way imaginable.
We grew several packs each of nearly every indoor specific varietal available of Pre-98 Sensi Seed stock, as well as many others.
When I first found the description at the now defunct Heaven's Stairway I really didn't believe it. They were 10 seeds for $150 and back then that was comparable to Jack, Marleys, Mr. Nice from SS. Then I stumbled around the internet and found Mr. Soul posting about the strains available at CW. Until recently the posts were still there but I believe they have now been deleted.
People on the boards were very impressed with her in a lot of ways. 7 week finish, Super resin production, Super fruity smells some fruit punch ( My favorite was a hawaiian punch) to pineapple and some grapefruit. The high from smoking the encrusted goodness was like nothing else I had at the time. All clear up in the head motivational and to some too strong of an experience.
Since the day I lost them and her until now I have searched and searched every seed line with folks claiming to have this Holy Grail variety preserved. I even went to meet with Mr. Soul outside of Denver, Colorado.
I shared my recent C99 with him and we agreed after much discussion that nearly all of the currently available C99 left plenty to be desired and he assured me as he has others that he retains Princess and Genius. I was happy with the new release, but it is just that. New99, at least to myself having known the original girls.
I wanted to give up so many times seeing everyone else going with the new genetics of tomorrow, but still just couldn't give up on the past.
Just recently I stumbled upon some old breeding boards and saw that at around 2004 a breeder by the name Charles Baudelaire once had supplied what many believed to be the best however limited availability of remaining Cinderella genetics. I searched far and wide and finally I found him. He like Mr. Soul has re emerged and I reached out to him. From our conversations I was convinced that if I was going to find authentic Brothers Grimm F2 C99 he was most likely my last chance at finding those sweet fruity potent genetics.
So here we are Brothers, still searching for the Holy Grail.
C99
Pic dump coming soon at 25 days 12/12...TO BE CONTINUED.....
LT
Crazy Chester
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Gotta say, LT, I've got some high hopes for that FDM C99 - I may have to order it instead of the JW. I can't wait to see how it finishes/cures for you! This could be it!
Crazy Chester
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Fitzera's Bros Grimm C99 XX plant looks great. I've been waiting for what seems like forever for someone to grow that out. Theoretically, it seems like a good bet because if any one knows what the original was like, it would be Mr. Soul. It wouldn't make the least bit of sense to self a plant that isn't spot on. That said, I'm a bit puzzled why he didn't just self Princess.
Also, LT's FDM C99 looks really promising.
I'm so happy to finally see someone growing these two seed lines. It may be that we now have two solid choices to get something like the original release.
Also, LT's FDM C99 looks really promising.
I'm so happy to finally see someone growing these two seed lines. It may be that we now have two solid choices to get something like the original release.
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Palindrome
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Looking good LostTribe
I cleaned up in your thread, to the point where you asked bman to make his own thread.
And everything related to that, to this point.
I cleaned up in your thread, to the point where you asked bman to make his own thread.
And everything related to that, to this point.
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FDM C99 day 25 of 12/12
The pic from my last post was taken from another grower of the FDM further along. That pic alone told me I must try this line.
I have these in 80/20 Peat/Perlite. Feeding off my hydro rez with 5ml Calmag+, 15ml PBP Bloom, Hydroguard, a bit of H202 and B'cuzz bloom stimulator. HPS lighting.
This particular plant was left untopped, so I could get her into bloom as fast as possible. Cuttings were taken from lower nodes. She roots fast. She's only been pushing pistols for about 12 days and and really has just begun to take off. Resin first appeared about 7 days ago. Smells sweet and fruity so far with a fresh background. She is also stretching nearly 3x in height so far, which originals were notorious for.
Orange pistols from accidental over pollination from Archive Valley Girl Male.
I love this leaf pattern it looks identical to the other growers keeper from my previous post. The other plants I have are showing wider leaf patterns so far but are vegging under T8 flos. Also note the double serrations.
Yessum has a few plants a little ahead of mine although he is unable to post pics we are in agreement that so far he isn't getting any grapefruit only sweet smells but still a ways to go as well.
TO BE CONTINUED....
The pic from my last post was taken from another grower of the FDM further along. That pic alone told me I must try this line.
I have these in 80/20 Peat/Perlite. Feeding off my hydro rez with 5ml Calmag+, 15ml PBP Bloom, Hydroguard, a bit of H202 and B'cuzz bloom stimulator. HPS lighting.
This particular plant was left untopped, so I could get her into bloom as fast as possible. Cuttings were taken from lower nodes. She roots fast. She's only been pushing pistols for about 12 days and and really has just begun to take off. Resin first appeared about 7 days ago. Smells sweet and fruity so far with a fresh background. She is also stretching nearly 3x in height so far, which originals were notorious for.
Orange pistols from accidental over pollination from Archive Valley Girl Male.
I love this leaf pattern it looks identical to the other growers keeper from my previous post. The other plants I have are showing wider leaf patterns so far but are vegging under T8 flos. Also note the double serrations.
Yessum has a few plants a little ahead of mine although he is unable to post pics we are in agreement that so far he isn't getting any grapefruit only sweet smells but still a ways to go as well.
TO BE CONTINUED....
These are FDM C99 at 45 days flower. I plan to chop this coming Friday or early next week. I had thrips so the leaves and plants are a bit stunted. The plants in black pots shared the space with another plant since removed which hindered their growth I would think. The black pots are 4 inches across and the other containers are around half that size.
There is one plant that seems a bit grapefruit or at least citrus in smell. The others seem like a mango or guava maybe, exotic fruit smell. The one I thought of as pineapple earlier is now the grapefruit type. https://www.icmag.com/ic/attachment.php?attachmentid=490247&stc=1&d=1554167928
i would guess LostTribe is about to find something close to his grail with several plants run. I plan to try out the Peak C99 next round.
There is one plant that seems a bit grapefruit or at least citrus in smell. The others seem like a mango or guava maybe, exotic fruit smell. The one I thought of as pineapple earlier is now the grapefruit type. https://www.icmag.com/ic/attachment.php?attachmentid=490247&stc=1&d=1554167928
i would guess LostTribe is about to find something close to his grail with several plants run. I plan to try out the Peak C99 next round.
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Fitzera
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Was is ever confirmed that DNAs Cannalope Haze is in fact a Cindy pheno?
I have a pack but it will be quite a while before I pop them. If I find anything of interest I'll submit that here. Most likely this time next year I'll have that info. Between now and then I'm going to try my hand at Panama x Benji Haze, Zamaldelica and Destroyer!
I have a pack but it will be quite a while before I pop them. If I find anything of interest I'll submit that here. Most likely this time next year I'll have that info. Between now and then I'm going to try my hand at Panama x Benji Haze, Zamaldelica and Destroyer!
Happy Times
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Never heard that about the DNA Cannalope Haze before
Fitzera
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This seems to be the only thread on here that I can find relating to the matter
https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?threadid=58573
From another location on the interwebz:
"When D & A first arrived in the Dam a few years ago I extended the hand of friendship to them since they would often come by my shop there. They were since growers from the west coast that had just arrived and I suggested that they should make seeds....
I drove them around to score some pollen from some breeder friends and supplied them with a couple of hundred powerplant clones and even a couple of lights since they were low on funds and I told them to make the 'Who's Your Daddy' seeds that I bought from them for several thousand euros to give away as 'freebies' thru seedsdirect and seedbay to get their name out there and establish them as up-and-coming breeders....
I also gave them some Cindy'99 seeds that had come from the Brothers Grimm (my favourite breeders of all time) and advised them that Cindy'99 was a great stable/worked variety that would be excellent for breeding purposes....
I suggested that they buy a copy of Rob Clarks book 'Marijuana Botany' and learn how to properly breed good stable strains since at the time they didn't have a clue....as time went by I purchased some of their early crosses from them and they started to supply the Grey Area with something they called 'Cannalope Haze'....I tried this 'Cannalope Haze' and it was quite obvious to me that it was Cindy'99.....this absolutely appalled me, that they would take something I had given to them, grow it, re-name it and sell it as something that they had created without any mention of the Brothers Grimm who took the time and effort to create Cindy in the first place.....Reeferman was in the shop that day and also confirmed that this 'Cannalope Haze' was indeed Cindy'99.....so I had a row with them about it (Cindy'99 is my all time favourite and I knew about the work that the Grimm Brothers had put into it since I had followed this strains development and had sold these seeds for quite some time)...
Basically they lied to me and tried to say that it was not Cindy and any grower out there that bought this 'Cannalope Haze' was obviously given the wrong lineage without any kudos to the breeders that originally produced it.....this upset me because I like to see ACCURATE REPRESENTATION of any variety out there....
From then on I didn't want to supply their seeds any more no matter what money I could have made doing so since it was obvious to me that these guys were just taking other breeders hard work and renaming it as their own....I didn't sell their seeds for years then I found a few packs of these early crosses in my stash that they had sold me not long after we had first met and DG suggested that we should get rid of them thru seedbay.....so I did and they publically accused me of selling something that didn't come from them.....another lie...
Gypsy Nirvana"
Crazy Chester
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Oh, wow, Fitzera! Maybe it's another legitimate C99? Question is - where to find it. Looks like Gypsy cut ties with the breeder.
Fitzera
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Gypsy is talking about the DNA boys. Their Cannalope Haze is the one in question and its readily available.
Day 30 update:
I left them for 2 days and today I noticed that the Pistols are exploding in size. These are the fattest hairs I have seen in forever. That was a trait the originals possessed.
I also wanted to say again how very saddening it is to learn of the passing of Neville Shoenmakers, Originator, Searcher, Creator, Innovator and so much more. So much knowledge and history has been lost with his passing, but Legends never die while their memory lives on.
The search continues....
I left them for 2 days and today I noticed that the Pistols are exploding in size. These are the fattest hairs I have seen in forever. That was a trait the originals possessed.
I also wanted to say again how very saddening it is to learn of the passing of Neville Shoenmakers, Originator, Searcher, Creator, Innovator and so much more. So much knowledge and history has been lost with his passing, but Legends never die while their memory lives on.
The search continues....
I ordered a few seeds of this. On another forum I just read from a guy that grew BG C99 as well as this, that they are different. He is certain on this so good enough for me. He said the C99 is daytime weed and the CH is not as much of an upper.
Supposed to be Michoacan in the Cannalope Haze so I could not resist. Some of the best smoke from my past came from that area.
With all due respect Yesum, I'd hold off on that for a second Brother. Once the Originals are found why keep on paying the Fakes?
Its been a very long trip but good things are in sight. I'd say pop your replacement FDM beans first. Maybe the keeper is 1 in 10. I only popped 5 with the damaged ones....
Thats just it....The Trip...its not getting there but the journey along the way home that matters most.
I have a good feeling in 19 days from today that the end may be near.
Best to you Brother,
LT
