Cinderella 99 The Come Back

[LostTribe]

As I am still NOT satisfied with any of the current releases of Cinderella 99 that I have tested:

-New Brothers Grimm(just different)
-female seeds
-Mosca f1
-Mosca bx1
-Dutchgrown
-Joey Weed
-NuggetShiner
-old f2's of several mixes of mosca f1 and bx1 combined
-old f2's of DG
-old f2's of GNO3 are too old and not germinating (these were the last glimpse of Pineapple or Fruit Punch C99)

I was close to giving up hope and settling for Soul's new watered down hybrid or the grapefruit Joey Weed (authentic just not my missing sweet fire Cindy) but then......

I stumbled onto a long lost OG member well known for preserving the C99 and C88 along with DurbanThaiHighflyer99. He disappeared when OG went down.

Baudelaire has RETURNED!

I can SMELL her coming through the screen!!!! Oh please be the one!!!!

This may be my very last attempt to bring my long lost girl back home.....hoping for the best.

Wish me luck!
LT

 

['Boogieman']

Has anyone tried Brothers Grimm feminized C99? I believe it's princess x princess S1 I would imagine it could be better than the regular version that is using a new male.

 

[ThaiBliss]

Looks nice Lost Tribe. I hope it's the one.


All the Best in the New Year.

 

[LostTribe]

Has anyone tried Brothers Grimm feminized C99? I believe it's princess x princess S1 I would imagine it could be better than the regular version that is using a new male.

I have considered this too but if you think about it why would soul not use his best for the regulars. If he holds Princess which is up for debate why not test out other males?

I went with the A11XX but haven't popped them.

Not sure how quick I can run the baud....

 

[Scrappy-doo]

While I really enjoyed dealing with Mike from Peakseeds and have given them many shoutouts, I have to slightly throw some shade here ...


I grew out 2 females of his C99 and they both were amazing looking plants, developing well, flowering fast etc. etc.
But they had 1 thing in common: Lack of potency and smell.
Both were, at best, daytime weed. I gave it all away to somebody who tries to hide smoking weed from his wife and said this stuff was ideal since it didn't smell like anything and only gave him a slight buzz that nobody could notice.


I agree with his assertion.



Now I said elsewhere and before, that was just 2 females. I still have over 20 of those beans left and will try them again some time. But they went way down on my list of priorities to grow due to that experience.


Next up is Peak's Blueberry. Got 30 of those beans, previously popped 5. Only 2 germed, only one of those 2 made it to maturity. Fortunately it was female.
Unfortunately it was also massively lacking potency and overall was a shitty plant. But I had several other issues in that grow and attributed it more to my mistakes than the seeds.
But I just popped another 15 of the blueberry seeds. And after 5 days, I have exactly 6 of the 15 out of soil.... not good.
For those screaming saying I can't germ, I had 100% germination in the same seed pop from MRN and Karma Squad crumbled lime (the Karma squad King Lambo was actually also disastrous, 7 out of 15 so far ...).
When I bought the Blueberry seeds, Peakseeds still had a mentioning in the strain description saying that these seeds can sometimes be hard to germ and need to be given extra time etc.

During my emails with Mike he told me that this had since been rectified and that they germinate fine as anything else.


My experience, having popped 20, is that this was apparently not fixed. In the paper towels, the BB seeds usually just showed a tiny tap root when all other seeds had already broken out of the shell and had a good 1-2cm tap root.
If I left them a day or two extra, some of them had the same 1-2cm developed tap root but most of them still had either only a tiny tap root poking out the shell or were looking like they were just beginning to crack or hadn't cracked at all yet.




I will give the seeds a few more days (in jiffy plugs now) but the 6 above ground are on par, development wise, as all the other seeds I popped this round. The remaining 9 are still below ground and my past experience tells me they might never come out...






There is a lot right with PeakseedsBC which is why I bought his stuff after doing long and through research on my seed sources. But I have to say the seeds have left me disappointed in the past and have continued to do so any chance I gave them.


The 6 BB seedlings I have at the moment are likely the last chance Peakseeds gets from me for the foreseeable future.
And boy do I hope they change my mind.

Your germ issues are a blessing in disguise. I ran 12 or so females of peak's bb years ago. Your description of the 1 female that survived wasn't an anomoly... it's the norm. All mine were nearly identical and all were equally low quality. My only advice is to kill them all, and if you must flower them out then flower them out small.

 

[bigbadbiddy]

Your germ issues are a blessing in disguise. I ran 12 or so females of peak's bb years ago. Your description of the 1 female that survived wasn't an anomoly... it's the norm. All mine were nearly identical and all were equally low quality. My only advice is to kill them all, and if you must flower them out then flower them out small.

Bummer...


I have to say that the remaining 7 or so that are still up are looking disappointing again...


I was considering that maybe it is a difference in growing styles and that the line has gotten used to how MikeJ grows them.
Because all other plants are doing quite fine but the Blueberries are all nutrient deficient (like I said, thought maybe they just need more nutes and are used to getting higher nutrient concentrations through chemical nutes than I can afford them in my organic soil setup...)... They are yellowing much faster from the bottom than the other plants.


Also the slow growth ...
I couldn't top them at the same time as all the other plants because the nodes just developed so slowly.
On the 3 or so upper nodes, there were basically only fan leafs and tiny, absolutely tiny starting points of a node developing. While all the other plants had fully developed nodes from top to bottom and could be topped without issues...


I don't know, coupled with what I read about DJ's original blueberry throughout the years, this line is really just leaving me hopeless.


I will still flower out the remaining plants and do hope that with the low temps I at least get one to purple and maybe if I am really lucky get a single pheno that exhibits some blueberry flavors/odors. Would already be satisfied then, even if the smoke is lackluster...




At this point my bet is though that the BB and C99 will leave me very disappointed while the Sweet Skunk from Peak might totally surprise me positively ... Also might have just chosen poorly. By all accounts I should have gotten peaks Northern Lights and maybe Skunk varieties...

 

[Mr D]

Nice thread mate. I see you figured out the new C99 is not the old C99

Here's helpful tip: The real talent of the original Bros. Grimm, Sly is long gone. Soul was no breeder he was a Nuclear engineer who got lucky. Duke Diamond bailed out and now Soul is pollen chucking. And to be quite honest Genius blows Princess out of the water IMO.

Once again nice thread and I love your passion.

 

[Nordic Stoner]

hey guys is female seeds c99 a good representation?

 

[LostTribe]

hey guys is female seeds c99 a good representation?

FMS Sucks. Hermies and is not the same taste or high. Resin and growth pattern are consistent but the taste is like paint thinner vs exotic sweet fruit. Very skinny leaves also comparatively. My guess is a dutch sativa hybrid.

 

[bigbadbiddy]

I still think Peakseeds C99 might be the closest representation to original C99.


Now I didn't get to try original C99 back in the day so I am going by what I read.


The lack in potency that I had in my 2 phenos I grew out of Peaks C99 might have been on par for the original C99, by what I have read online about the original.


Basically from what I gathered, C99 was a fast and heavily producing version of the Jack Herrer with a little loss in potency.


I would say this description fits on Peak's C99 with the exception of "little loss in potency" compared to Jack Herrer, which I would describe as "massive loss in potency" compared to Jack Herrer.


Otherwise it fits the bill. Grows and flowers very fast, structure seems to fit, produces quite heavy... Smells were not what I expected but it was just 2 phenos.




So IF the original C99 was indeed always a "light version" of Jack Herrer, that grew and flowered much faster and produced very well, then I still think Peak's C99 fits. Might just have to go through some 30 or so beans to find a relatively potent pheno.
If one can find pineapple/grapefruit terps in the line I could not say.


My 2 C99 phenos smelled a bit during flower (I distinctly remember some carrot like smells though) but were basically odorless once harvested. Was real stealthy weed...

 

['Boogieman']

I still think Peakseeds C99 might be the closest representation to original C99.


Now I didn't get to try original C99 back in the day so I am going by what I read.


The lack in potency that I had in my 2 phenos I grew out of Peaks C99 might have been on par for the original C99, by what I have read online about the original.


Basically from what I gathered, C99 was a fast and heavily producing version of the Jack Herrer with a little loss in potency.


I would say this description fits on Peak's C99 with the exception of "little loss in potency" compared to Jack Herrer, which I would describe as "massive loss in potency" compared to Jack Herrer.


Otherwise it fits the bill. Grows and flowers very fast, structure seems to fit, produces quite heavy... Smells were not what I expected but it was just 2 phenos.




So IF the original C99 was indeed always a "light version" of Jack Herrer, that grew and flowered much faster and produced very well, then I still think Peak's C99 fits. Might just have to go through some 30 or so beans to find a relatively potent pheno.
If one can find pineapple/grapefruit terps in the line I could not say.


My 2 C99 phenos smelled a bit during flower (I distinctly remember some carrot like smells though) but were basically odorless once harvested. Was real stealthy weed...

Never had the original but I got some potent c99 phenos from female seeds. I had c99 in the past and would not consider it weak.

 

[LostTribe]

I still think Peakseeds C99 might be the closest representation to original C99.


Now I didn't get to try original C99 back in the day so I am going by what I read.


The lack in potency that I had in my 2 phenos I grew out of Peaks C99 might have been on par for the original C99, by what I have read online about the original.


Basically from what I gathered, C99 was a fast and heavily producing version of the Jack Herrer with a little loss in potency.


I would say this description fits on Peak's C99 with the exception of "little loss in potency" compared to Jack Herrer, which I would describe as "massive loss in potency" compared to Jack Herrer.


Otherwise it fits the bill. Grows and flowers very fast, structure seems to fit, produces quite heavy... Smells were not what I expected but it was just 2 phenos.




So IF the original C99 was indeed always a "light version" of Jack Herrer, that grew and flowered much faster and produced very well, then I still think Peak's C99 fits. Might just have to go through some 30 or so beans to find a relatively potent pheno.
If one can find pineapple/grapefruit terps in the line I could not say.


My 2 C99 phenos smelled a bit during flower (I distinctly remember some carrot like smells though) but were basically odorless once harvested. Was real stealthy weed...

FMS was ok but not what I am searching for. Taste and high are different. Also Hermied so I wouldn't cross this one out. Maybe it was just the one but I am going to look at some of the remaining vendors before revisiting the fms version. Also I just burned a huge bo dub of this top and the result is a mediocre high....

Actually Peak emailed me they lean grapefruit last year that's why I did not run them. I am happy with the Joey Weed C99, grapefruit.

But as I have said repeatedly I am all in for the Fruit Punch/Pineapple of old. Its like opening up a can of dole pineapple chunks and taking a swig of the juice! I won't settle for anything else. Too much time and effort have gone into this to end now while 2 or 3 remaining varietals may hold the grail.

A respected friend has also offered a pack of KOS C99 to run not sure when I will be able to but considering putting them up against the FDM, Fleur Du Mal by Charles Baudelaire.

Cheers!
LT

 

[bigbadbiddy]

So getting back to the question, you would say Joey Weed's C99 is the closest to the C99 of old with regards to the Grapefruit phenos and you are still on the look for one that comes close with regards to the fruit punch/pineapple phenos?


Sounds like we have a decent part of the answer and the right guy to look for the second part in what remains as possible solutions.


Finger's crossed here that you find a good source for the pineapple phenos.


How would you describe the potency of C99 LT?

 

[LostTribe]

So getting back to the question, you would say Joey Weed's C99 is the closest to the C99 of old with regards to the Grapefruit phenos and you are still on the look for one that comes close with regards to the fruit punch/pineapple phenos?


Sounds like we have a decent part of the answer and the right guy to look for the second part in what remains as possible solutions.


Finger's crossed here that you find a good source for the pineapple phenos.


How would you describe the potency of C99 LT?

Potency is arbitrary and user dependent. That being said, you know the Joey is good high wise but just kind of mellow. I have had stuff like the new bros grimm that is more indica influenced and knockout. Mosca's was also sort of in the middle. I remember the real deal and it was a day brightener and soaring high. Some found it racy but you get used to it especially if you smoke it for extended periods....not necessarily tolerance but it just isn't as extreme. I don't find the current offerings I have tried to match the originals or f2's of them.

I sure am pulling for these last few remaining vendors to come thru.

 

[bigbadbiddy]

Pulling for you too.


I have also found that potency is hard to quantify and is very subjective.


I remember when I first grew AK47 and NL, everyone was going on about the NL being "more potent". It wasn't, it was just pure Indica knockout stone.
While the AK47 had that too but not as much as the NL and was more towards the Sativa side with the "up" high, mind thinking in different ways, giggles etc. etc.


I would have said the AK47 was just as if not more potent because you could keep smoking it and would get the same or a similar knockout stone as with the NL, eventually.




I feel like the "Sativa high" is often misunderstood as not potent. It is just different and has more of a cerebral than a body hit. You really kind of need to "think it" not "feel it" as much as the Indica high. But when you recognize it, you do notice that your mind is just reacting/thinking differently.




That being said, the Peak's C99s I had didn't really do that for me either. Was also very short time that it lasted. Really was what many describe as "daytime" weed, you could smoke this all day and always have like a slight buzz going that leaves you functional and just sort of elevated.


But I compared that with my experiences with Hazes and especially Neville's Haze just left me in this state where everything felt so "soft" and "kind" and it was like the world around me was cushioned/wrapped in cotton.
Compared to that, even the "Sativa effect" was too underwhelming/weak for my taste.




Have a feeling that the old Cinderella gave you just a light version of that (like Jack Herrer with less of a punch sort of) and now it has gotten "too light", apparently. Or if it still hits you, it's because there is more Indica in the cross.


Oh well, mostly speculating and trying to make some rhyme and reason out of all the infos/feedbacks/experiences I stumble over.


It seems like you are not one to give up LT so I will keep reading what you share with the community and like I said, finger's crossed for those last remaining breeders on your list.

 

[Mr D]

Did you try FDM's C99? That would be where I would look for original genetics. Haven't tried it myself. I'm more of an Apollo fan.

My original C99 cut which came from lucas, made it around the community. It's my understanding that even Bohdi had it for a period.

https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=185610&highlight=(ray+davies+cut)

 

[LostTribe]

Did you try FDM's C99? That would be where I would look for original genetics. Haven't tried it myself. I'm more of an Apollo fan.

My original C99 cut which came from lucas, made it around the community. It's my understanding that even Bohdi had it for a period.

https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=185610&highlight=(ray+davies+cut)

Welcome back Mr. Davies!

I am very familiar with your cut but never had a chance to run it. I don't think the pics are up anywhere anymore either.

Yes my FDM are on the way. Hoping for "The Comeback" this time. I may even run her exactly as before to make sure no media/nutrients mess with my palate but I really don't think that is affecting my problem with finding something sweet and original.

I grew the originals from HS and they were probably some of the first plants that turned out great and I was a complete novice back then. My other strains normally turn out superior in taste compared to the cindy's I've run since that time.

As for A11 i have read decent reviews on the new BG A11 and have a couple singles in the stash I want to try. I always sat on the Apollos probably a gigantic mistake.

Thank you very much for stopping by and much respect.
LT

 

[Mr D]

Welcome back Mr. Davies!

I am very familiar with your cut but never had a chance to run it. I don't think the pics are up anywhere anymore either.

Yes my FDM are on the way. Hoping for "The Comeback" this time. I may even run her exactly as before to make sure no media/nutrients mess with my palate but I really don't think that is affecting my problem with finding something sweet and original.

I grew the originals from HS and they were probably some of the first plants that turned out great and I was a complete novice back then. My other strains normally turn out superior in taste compared to the cindy's I've run since that time.

As for A11 i have read decent reviews on the new BG A11 and have a couple singles in the stash I want to try. I always sat on the Apollos probably a gigantic mistake. Most recent A11 may have come from Bodhi as soul told me that he had acquired somethings from him, this was before any releases.

Thank you very much for stopping by and much respect.
LT

If I can locate a cut of original C99 I'll be sure to pass it along to you. I have inquired about that cut with my old handle attached to it, so far no luck.

I have Bohdi's unreleased Bruce Banner#3 X Apollo 11 F4 and it's a dead ringer for Genius. So if you can locate Bohdi's Apollo 11 F4 grab it.

 

[LostTribe]

If I can locate a cut of original C99 I'll be sure to pass it along to you. I have inquired about that cut with my old handle attached to it, so far no luck.

I have Bohdi's unreleased Bruce Banner#3 X Apollo 11 F4 and it's a dead ringer for Genius. So if you can locate Bohdi's Apollo 11 F4 grab it.

This journey has been a long one. Countless tries and countless let downs I am beginning to think that possibly I have toked so much C99 over the years that maybe my own taste is off from regular use but as I am smelling different things and seeing different things my taste is probably correct.

LT

 

[need4weed]

So getting back to the question, you would say Joey Weed's C99 is the closest to the C99 of old with regards to the Grapefruit phenos and you are still on the look for one that comes close with regards to the fruit punch/pineapple phenos?


Sounds like we have a decent part of the answer and the right guy to look for the second part in what remains as possible solutions.


Finger's crossed here that you find a good source for the pineapple phenos.


How would you describe the potency of C99 LT?

I have original c99, had it for over 10 years now. Its unmistakable pineapple with a rotting smell in the background. Super potent, crystal clear high that leaves you feeling fantastic with a permanent shit eating grin on your face. For me, it also enhances audio and visual effects. Makes everything look like it's in 4k. The indica part if the high feels like your wrapped in a warm blanket.