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We musta been typing at the same time Babba, thank you for that post, i needed it.

peace and love

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"Whether or not your prayer is answered will depend upon your faith; [if it is not,] I will in no way be to blame. When the water is clear, the moon is reflected. When the wind blows, the trees shake. Our minds are like the water. Faith that is weak is like muddy water, while faith that is brave is like clear water. Understand that the trees are like principles, and the wind that shakes them is like the recitation of the sutra."


Reply to the lay Nun Nichigon,
The Writings of Nichiren Daishonin, pg# 1079)
Written to Nichigon-ama on 29 November 1280 from Minobu
http://sgi-usa.org/buddhism/library/Nichiren/wnd/concord/pages.view/1079.html
 
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Morning all ...I hope everyone is doing well..Bonzo I am glad your feeling better already.

I am going to try to get to a meeting this week or next I am very excited to chant with others...Hi to everyone...Keep up the good work...I love you all! :joint:

Nam Myoho Renge Kyo!!!

Nam Myoho Renge Kyo!!!

Nam Myoho Renge Kyo!!!
 

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Howdy all! Thank you Respect! Ill tell ya, my back hurts like hell but im all smiles, life is fuckin' good!!!

peace and by for now, ill be back!!!

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FAITH TO SURMOUNT OBSTACLES
Wednesday, November 29, 2006

Selection Source: Carry On with Strict Training in Practice and Study, Kyushu, Japan, October 21, 1987, Buddhism in Action, Vol. VI, pg. 234

Taking faith in this Buddhism does not mean that all our problems will disappear. Actually, embracing the Mystic Law and practicing shakubuku for the benefit of others may mean that you are busier, so that you end up facing even more troubles. But each day, live in such a manner that creates infinite value; just as "infinite meaning
derives from the one Law," "one day" can be equal in value to the enormous length of "one hundred kalpas." Thus a life-condition filled with supreme joy and tremendous value, unattainable in any other way, is developed. Herein lies the profound significance of embracing this faith and advancing toward kosen-rufu.

As I wrote in my Essays: The Human Revolution, Mr. Toda once encouraged the youth as follows: "A son of the revolution will not grow if he dreams only of a relaxed, peaceful life. I would like you to be the kind of person who maintains harmony between intellect and sentiment, someone who during the day sweats because of working, studying and challenging oneself, and yet still has the time to stand on the beach conversing with the waves of the ocean, or, at night, to make friends with the stars."
 

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Babbabud said:
FAITH TO SURMOUNT OBSTACLES
Wednesday, November 29, 2006

Selection Source: Carry On with Strict Training in Practice and Study, Kyushu, Japan, October 21, 1987, Buddhism in Action, Vol. VI, pg. 234

Taking faith in this Buddhism does not mean that all our problems will disappear. Actually, embracing the Mystic Law and practicing shakubuku for the benefit of others may mean that you are busier, so that you end up facing even more troubles. But each day, live in such a manner that creates infinite value; just as "infinite meaning
derives from the one Law," "one day" can be equal in value to the enormous length of "one hundred kalpas." Thus a life-condition filled with supreme joy and tremendous value, unattainable in any other way, is developed. Herein lies the profound significance of embracing this faith and advancing toward kosen-rufu.

As I wrote in my Essays: The Human Revolution, Mr. Toda once encouraged the youth as follows: "A son of the revolution will not grow if he dreams only of a relaxed, peaceful life. I would like you to be the kind of person who maintains harmony between intellect and sentiment, someone who during the day sweats because of working, studying and challenging oneself, and yet still has the time to stand on the beach conversing with the waves of the ocean, or, at night, to make friends with the stars."


:woohoo: AAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :woohoo:

I LOVE THAT BABBA!!!!!!!!!! I was just sayin to my mom not 5 minutes ago how there arent enough hours in the day. Ive been up and going since 5:30 am and i will be getting to bed prolly around midnite and up at 5:30 again. But so many awesoem things have happened that i gotta tell ya'll soon, one is really trippy, that im going to do it again tomorrow, im working towards a goal and its not going to happen by pissin and moanin about not havin any fun. Shit im kinda dangerous to myself with too much free time anyway, however i know im getting off track. I do want to make a career change, which would mean working for myself doin something i am more passionate about. I dont think thats too much too ask? As a matter of fact someday i think young people should be giuded towards careers they CARE about and ENJOY doing, it should would make for a happier world dont ya think?

I hate to even say it but i had to miss volume #2, the video documetary at The Friendship Center tonite on president Ikedas life, i couldnt sit upright anymore cause of my back so i came home and laid flat on the floor and dangit! i woke up two hours later and it was allready 8 pm, the documetary started at 7 pm. Well ill be there next wednesday for part 3 for sure and im sure ill be there many times between now and then. That place and the people there just fill my heart with the spirit of NAM MYOHO RENGE KYO!!!!!

ok i better get to gettin.

peace and love to you all, from the bottom of my heart :wave:

bonz :smile:






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DAILY WISDOM
Thursday, November 30, 2006Selection Source: The Two Kinds of Faith, WND, 899, Written to Nanjo Tokimitsu on February 25, 1278 from Minobu

Today there are people who have faith in the Lotus Sutra. The belief of some is like fire while that of others is like water. When the former listen to the teachings, their passion flares up like fire, but as time goes on, they tend to discard their faith. To have faith like water means to believe continuously without ever regressing. Since you
visit me constantly, regardless of the difficulties, your belief is comparable to flowing water. It is worthy of great respect!
 

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DAILY GOSHO
Thursday, November 30, 2006

Selection Source: Questions and Answers about Embracing the Lotus Sutra - The Writings of Nichiren Daishonin, page 64

"Single-mindedly chant Nam-myoho-renge- kyo and urge others to do the same; that will remain as the only memory of your present life in this human world."
 
Look guys I think of all of you like brothers because I know it to be true. But it seems my concern is going to go unheard or atleast we are pretending I didn't ask... I am very concerned about some stuff I have read this site has a bunch of stories <edit: llink removed by admin>. I want to know if there is any truth to any of this or if this is just the attempts of the evil in the world to stop kosen rufu... Please don't pretend I didn't ask.
 
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Leonardo : The Soka Gakkai has a colorful past. Many things have transpired including a split from the priesthood. There are many people out there with a negative agenda. Im sure T will come on and perhaps give you some reading for you to better understand some of the history. But be sure Leo ... the Soka Gakkai is a beautiful and caring foundation. With the large picture in mind... this being Kosen Rufu.
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Hey Leo! I am struggling to catch up and have not yet. My Brother, I ask that you edit that link off of this thread as soon as possible, please. That is slander as far as I'm concerned. I really don't want that here. There are many people who are out to hurt the SGI. You wouldn't be chanting right now and none of the rest of us would be either if it weren't for the SGI.

I just got home from a fourteen hour flight. Cut me some slack OK? I am probably the only one that can take that on unless SoCal jumps in. But give me some hours of sleep first please?

And get that bullshit off of the thread asap. Thank you. I am not going to contribute to the spreading of lies and distortions.

I will openly and candidly take this on in the AM. (my time)

I will only say this. What you wrote that I was able to read doesn't match the question you just asked or the source you posted here. I think you already know the correct answer.

Thomas
 
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Now when I asked tom was around the same time I had been practicing to where you are today (almost right away).

My words were:

"What the Fuck is Daisaku Ikeda doing getting worshipped by so many people all this other nonesense that doesn't make sense to me"

Before I asked I studied the SGI's answers outlined on this site:

http://sokaspirit.org/

Soka Spirit is a movement within SGI to refute the errorneous teachings of Nichiren Shoshu or more specifically the group slandering SGI because of the Temple Split. This whole entire issue is because before Daisaku Ikeda and the Temple had issues; the Temple was acting out of line with Nichiren's Teachings and putting themselves in a higher regard and capacity (above the laity) and the laypeople led by Daisaku Ikeda of the Soka Gakkai were seeking independance from the temple and wanted the "best of both worlds situation". Temple and Gnostic (house to house deal) is what I'm thinking the Soka Gakkai wanted, but the High Priest of NIchiren Shoshu was like "FUCK THIS" and excommunicated the Soka Gakkai Leadership. Thus a so called "war" begins between the two, since Nichiren always refuted the errorneous teachings of the other buddhist schools.

Now check this out, I started my practice mad at Ikeda because I thought he was a transparent oppurtunist but I learned as humans we all have a fundamental darkness or devil of the 6th heaven and that is what was manifesting when I was looking at him and the way people in the organization seem to worship or praise him as sort of the "BUddha of Our TIme" and the reason is because, Ikeda is like a modern day Martin Luther King or Mahatma Ghandi on a Global Scale. The respect he gets and deserves is one thing and he is like a role model for Buddhahood since he is the leader of the Soka Gakkai but here is something that will help you better understand leadership roles in this organization.

Its like an upside down pyramid, with Ikeda at the bottom of the pyramid and the leaders of the organization progressively above him with the membership of the Soka Gakkai at the top. The leaders support the members and Ikeda supports us all as the top leader.

Now we must remember, everyone has an inherent buddhanature and should be respected as such but as explained by Nichiren in the Goshos, in the latter day of the law we will find corruption and evil leaders unlike any others in the history of time and the scale is so wildly off the charts that even one daimoku is equal to over 100 years of alms giving and sacrifices. So again, The Lotus Sutra being the single vehicle really puts it perfectly into prespective, because if we have issues about something/ANYTHING we must certainly chant about it. If we have issues with an SGI member or the SGI we should chant about it.

I had to do thousands and thousands of daimoku to really have a great dailouge with The Daishonin and bring about peace of mind with respect to the Soka Spirit aspect of this organization which is heavily influenced in my region with leaders promoting many Soka Spirit Tosos (chanting sessions for the success of Soka Spirit). I still do not really get involved in that aspect of my practice with others, but I encourage everyone to chant about it.

At the SGI bookstore at my local culture center I purchased a book called The Untold Story of The Fuji School which discusses in depth the Temple Split. Honestly, I have not read one page and have alot of our literature to go through especially the Goshos about 150,000,000 more times, lol. Its true, I really just read Nichiren's Guidance to me in the Goshos.

Through chanting with my strong (going on invincible) faith, studying the Goshos and doing my best to propagate Nam-myoho-renge-kyo, I over come all that sansho-shima immediately in my heart.

I'm in it to win it, winning to me means- Daily Buddhist Living, Growth, Spreading world peace, promoting positive influence (like Daisaku Ikeda's influence on me through that amazing guidance regularly posted and his other writings) derived from the Goshos and ultimately enjoying my last days knowing I'll be back with Gohonzon and once again doing my part for a lasting world peace.

We are at a critical juncture in our human history, and together as we write that history in our daily lives I implore all of you to embrace Gohonzon, chant about anything you need buddhawisdom for (everything) and unlock your happiness with Nam-myoho-renge-kyo.

Consistently going forward is the way, when we stumble we must continue forward despite the bullshit, for your sake remember we're currently alive during the Evil Latter Day of the Law, this is proven constantly to me, the questions you have Leo are further proof that The Lotus Sutra is the One True Vehicle. The Daishonin constantly clarifies how those who uphold The Lotus Sutra are bound to be persecuted.

Use Nichiren Daishonin's life as your guide towards living a truly free exsistence, within his unshaking and unwavering conviction exsists the Heart of The Lion, The Buddha of Beginningless Time or Gohonzon Buddha is in my Master. As many silent prayers as I dedicate towards the SGI and the founding presidents, I also include the same amount of prayers to My living Mentor Thus Come One PasstheDoobie and his teachers Tony Matsuoka and Ted Osaki.

with Nam-myoho-renge-kyo its a win-win situation!
 
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Ok, I am getting caught up.

WOW! You dudes have been jamming! Leo and MyohoDisco laying down some prose!

Leo, I embrace you my Bodhisattva of the Earth Brother. Your questions will now take me into the path of explaining for all in an open discussion the reality of the nature of the struggle for Kosen Rufu. But I ask that you have faith in the fact that I have (as objectively as I can) looked into the varying perspectives, and after 33 years and everything else that is documented as it has transpired on this thread in the last two and a half years, with all of us Bodisattvas of the Earth gathering here and embracing the Law together, growing continuously, that I practice proudly with the SGI as a result of an exhaustive investigation of the facts.

Much love and deep respect,

Thomas

(the rest in the morning)
 

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PS: Never ever forget this--

DAISAKU IKEDA IS AN OCEAN PERSON! OCEAN PEOPLE ARE ALWAYS PERSECUTED AND OPPOSED! WE SCARE THE SHIT OUT OF THE DEVIL OF THE SIXTH HEAVEN AND LEAD THE WAY. WE DO THAT BECAUSE WE'RE OCEAN PEOPLE!

KICKING ASS AND TAKING NAMES. LIKE YOU LEO.

Goodnight!

Thomas
 
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I don't know the specific's of your "scandal", but just remember your practice and be confident that the results of positive actions will be positive.

In my school of buddhism we have had serious problems with betrayal, puppets of the chinese government and even murder from corrupt governments. And slander and murder of righteous teachers by the Chinese gov't and their collaborators. Puppet teachers and false reports in the press.

All I can say is relax, and practice. It always becomes self evident who is following the path as the results of their actions. Don't allow the negative emotions of anger and pride dictate your actions. Remember their transformation into their opposites: mirror like wisdom and compassion.

I had a very negative intro into the Nichiren School in NYC in the 80's. ( Chanting for fur coats, a guy chanting and slapping his wife in front of me) At that time there were many wierd things going on in the west with all the buddhist schools. A lot of scandals which straightened them selves out. Sometimes adversity is very good for cleaning house.

PSD has made me realise that you can't let a wayward individual or group of individuals represent the totality of a teaching. To be honest, PSD you are like the quintessential opposite of the people I met, which is a pleasure and a comfort.

Peace and trust your practices. This stuff will pass. Look at your own history to see that. I bet you can dig up some historical examples. But it must always be discussed openly and honestly so that truth is self evident. If this is totally off base, let me know and I will delete the post...

Peace...
 

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Not at all my brother. I appreciate and respect what you have said and completely agree. How could I not? It is the truth.
 

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OK Leo. Just as I thought. Check out this link too:

http://www.rickross.com/

This is a scum monger right wing, get your kids back from the moonies deal. Look at the dates of most of those press releases. I have said it many times before--many times before--right here: The SGI is one of the richest and most powerful lay organizations in the world with fortune coming out it's ass. Daisaku Ikeda is one of the most powerful people in Japan and has dialoged with some of the biggest world leaders of our time.

Many people fear his power or that of the SGI from growing. What would you think the opposition to our practice would be if we were in number to begin to challege those of the Christian churches? There are many agendas for many reasons--some of them political rather than religious--that wish to impede the growth and objectives of the SGI.

There is nothing wrong with success. Yes more and more people are chanting. The SGI facitates the practice of Nichiren Buddhism like no other vehicle currently available for those making that endeavor. Plain and simple it isn't perfect because it is comprised of people and wherever there are people there is shit, without exception. Does one allow that fact to keep them from fulfilling their mission as a Bodhisattva of the Earth?

In my personal experience it is a regrettable mistake if you do.

To refer to the SGI as a cult is so 70's! Ha!! It almost makes me want to laugh my ass off. Ya, there are some fucked up people in the SGI. Are there any fucked up people in the Catholic Church? In the US government? In your school?

Where there are people there is shit.

Period. So what? Establish your personal experience and go from there. Your Buddha Nature has already been revealed in these previous pages. I have complete confidence where the Gohonzon will lead you.
 
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Hello everyone !! Hey check this out!! you guys just saw in a post above where PasstheDoobie said Daisaku Ikeda is an "Ocean Person". Well listen this is a reference to a post that SoCal Hippy made back on 07/05/2006. It is one of the most awesome post ever made on this thread. If you have just been coming here since after the above date or you just happen to miss it you really should take the time to read it. I would just cut and paste it to this post but it is very long. Hey I keep a copy of this handy so I can give it too people . Ok so heres the link!!
http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=3819&page=103&pp=30
and that will be post #3070. Take the time to read this you guys it has made a difference in my life. Besides it will put you in the loop as to what PTD is talking about here. Much much love to everyone. Thanks again for the great post SoCal!!
Nam Myoho Renge Kyo
 

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:wave: :wave: :wave: WELCOME BACK T!!!!!!!! :wave: :wave: :wave:

peace and all my love to you and yours!!!!! :wave:

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