Cash bond

[OG bub]

fake ID's that stand up ARE hard to come by, actually..

So is Leaving the country with pending felony charges.. you need an approved current passport to go ANYWHERE now, including Canada.... Mexico, I dunno, but Id imagine it would be the same.. getting on a plane isnt the best thing to do when yer on the run... BCA can track that shit easier than we can grow a plant... its ol skool to them.


IMO, best route is to SAVE money, keep saving, and dissapear as required if you need to.. if you dont need to, youll have a nice cash stash when you retire from yer risks.

^^^^ something I WISH I would have done, may pay for it now^^^^^

peace, bub.

 

[Stone Skunk]

DAWG/??? is that you!!!! How's the bounty huntin going...

Exactly what i was thinking the whole time i read this thread. Dog with his weird hair and bulletproof vests and mace guns. Now thats some shit.

 

[imnotcrazy]

I know for a fact, if pulled over outside of the state you're liscensed in that Suspended Liscense charges don't show on the system. But when the ticket goes through that state they fuck ya for it TRUST ME...

Therefore, I'd bet warrents etc won't show either..

 

[robotwithdreams]

Can someone pease explain the whole bail bondsmen thing to me. How does it work? Do you give the bondsman a certain percentage? How do they make money?

 

[Guest]

If the bond is 20,000 the accused puts up 10% or 2000 dollars,the bondsman coveres the other 18,000.If you dont show up in court he can lose that too,thats why they will go after your ass if its worth it to them.A good bondsman has many connections nationwide,a few phone calls and they may find what state your in.Paying the entire 20,000 bond without involving a bondsman totally frees you from these worries,now its just between you and LEO without a third party trying to spoil the party.I dont know what kind of suspicion posting a cash bond may precipitate,I dont even know if the prosecutor/judge would know if a cash bond were paid or a bail bondsman used.Personally,I'd be real suspicious if someone posted a cash bond for a felony and I may want to keep my eye on them.Make sure they dont sell their house,that kinda shit.I dont know however,thats the reason for the thread lol.Its gotta be better than using a bail bondsman though,even if you cause suspicion thats all it is,suspicion.They cant come and yank you up if you've paid your bond just because they may become susp[icious you may bolt,right?These are the things I wonder about,I cant believe there's nobody on the run out there!

 

[OG bub]

If the bond is 20,000 the accused puts up 10% or 2000 dollars,the bondsman coveres the other 18,000.If you dont show up in court he can lose that too,thats why they will go after your ass if its worth it to them.A good bondsman has many connections nationwide,a few phone calls and they may find what state your in.Paying the entire 20,000 bond without involving a bondsman totally frees you from these worries,now its just between you and LEO without a third party trying to spoil the party.

actually, if you post thru a bondsman, they require the 10% in payment yes, But, you MUST also sign over property worth the value of at least the other 90%.. like a house, Cars etc.. you get yer signed property back after yer case is complete, if you dont skip, but they keep the cash.
this is so the bond company dont loose if you skip.
on the plus side of bonding out, the court CANT assign you conditions of release, like UA's, travel restrictions etc...

Paying cash bail to court, yer usually also looking at 10%, but you Dont need to have the other 90% in the form of property or anything like that... and if you dont skip, you get yer $$$ back, or whatever is not used for fines, expences to the court etc...
Downside, is that you have conditions of release, like UA's, and travel restrictions etc...
However, if you skip, you wont loose yer home, cars, etc, just that 10% you put up to the court, and thats about all they will spend on looking for yer ass...


Peace, bub.

 

[SomeGuy]

OGbub,

Something doesnt sound right. The courts want 10% with no collateral and you get the money back while a bondsman keeps the 10% AND wants collateral? Why would anyone use a bondsman?

 

[Jack Crevalle]

That or you can find a lawyer that you trust ( oxymoron?) or that is new and needs to make some $$. bring cash to him for " prepaid services" and work out an aggreement that if you get pinched he bails you out with cash you gave to him over time. then all your $$ will be at lawyers office wating for you when you get out, then go to Brazil and get a hooker pregnant . you get to stay there and not be extradited if you get a brazilian national pregnant.

You have to wait until the baby is born, but this law is true. That was how "Hollywood" Jesse James got busted recently, he got a native preggy, thinking he was safe, but didn't realize the law determines that the baby must be born before immunity is granted. Stay safe everyone. Jail is a nightmare I hope never to have...

 

[Guest]

I'm not sure about that property signing over thing OG bub I had to bail a friend out once and there was just the 10% cash payment,thats their profit I believe.Bail was 2500 I put up 250 the bondsman covered the rest,when the accused shows up in court bond is returned to the bondsman,and the 10% bail you pay is the profit.Thats how I always thought it worked anyway,this was along long time ago lol.You can bet they take pictures of both you and the accused,they'll like to talk to both of you if you screw them believe me.

 

[l_d_d]

^^^ Sometimes they wont require it.... for smaller amounts... say 2500

20k they are gonna want collateral.

It really depends on the charge, the person, the situation etc etc etc though imo, Ive seen them want it for amounts smaller than 2500.

 

[BUDDY BOY]

I have a better idea... Lets not even think negatively ballastman. OG bub is a situation whereas he prolly explored these options already. Unless you feel them breathing down your back, or you know they are on your trail..... THINK POSITIVE!!!!

Who wants to feel like this.....


and be happy you are NOT on the run. I know dudes that are, and have been for years..... NOT FUN!!!!

BE SAFE!!!! THINK POSITIVE!!!! LOVE LIFE!!!!!! BE HAPPY YOU ARE FREE, AND NOT FACING CHARGES!!!!!! HOPE AND PRAY YOU ARE NOT UNDER SURVEILLANCE!!!!!

OG bub..... Keep your chin up!!!!!!

 

[Guest]

I'm far from that situation,with something so important though a plan is a good thing to have I think.This thread basically verified that going through a bondsman wouldn't be an option.

 

[Rubberband Man]

I just don't see it. Not having a legitimate license? I guess that's fine if you don't plan on driving.

And as far as them checking your record nationally, don't think that isn't in the process of being changed. Soon it will be a nationwide record check. For some places it already is.

 

[Guest]

RM is that a bit of a negative streak I sense lol?I havent been pulled in around a decade,and then it was because some lousy driver nailed me.Success means having a rational plan but also being 100% positive about it,negatives need to be explored then discarded.Not trying to sound philosophical bro though i think I did lol,its a practice not a philosophy to me.Being able to avoid the law directly is really of no great concern to me,its the holes I may have missed that worry me more.What happens when a large cash bond is posted?Is anyone of any consequence even notified?Is there any suspicion with the accused when a large cash bond is posted?Can he be watched legally?And what about the poster?Is he open to any problems legal or otherwise when I skip bail?These are the questions concerning me most,not avoiding a confrontation with LEO after the fact.If that happens it happens and I did something very stupid lol.

 

[budhownd]

You can " gift" $10,000 to a family member and write it off on your taxes. therefore the $$ is explained since its on record as gifts so no IRS hassle. so just gift $$ to family members and tell them its " just in case money' so when you get arrested ( knock on wood) they have enough to get you out and it wont raise eyebrows.

That or you can find a lawyer that you trust ( oxymoron?) or that is new and needs to make some $$. bring cash to him for " prepaid services" and work out an aggreement that if you get pinched he bails you out with cash you gave to him over time. then all your $$ will be at lawyers office wating for you when you get out, then go to Brazil and get a hooker pregnant . you get to stay there and not be extradited if you get a brazilian national pregnant.


there are many ways to fly under the radar and get bonded out, all you have to do is be creative and work within the system, not go around it. sneaky people going around it get busted, they raise suspicion.




Nevermind

Money waiting for you and a hooker!
Now THAT'S a plan!

Too bad I cant get anyone pregnant. I never get to have any fun!!

Cool advice, tho. :smile:

 

[budhownd]

Success means having a rational plan but also being 100% positive about it,negatives need to be explored then discarded.Not trying to sound philosophical bro though i think I did lol,its a practice not a philosophy to me..... If that happens it happens and I did something very stupid lol.

I agree wholeheartedly. Great thread ballastman, by the way.

I had an English professor once tell me "Fail to plan, plan to fail".
I think it's sound advice, even if it's a preemptive plan.

The last encounter I had with LEO was for a tail light that was out and I was shaken for hours after that. Kept looking in my rear view mirror, kept thinking about all kinds of what ifs.
Last summer I wouldn't think twice about lighting up a joint on the ride home from work. Now, there's no way I'll do it.

This thread has given me lots to think about, specifically, the fact that I've failed to plan.

 

[havalota]

A friend I have used to be in dispatch. Here NCIC is checked every time they call in your licence number, and they sometimes do that without pulling you over.

Many people have been found to have a warrent out on them from another state, however, unless it is for something MAJOR they won't pay for the extradition charges which start at about $15000 and go up from there. So the worst that happened to these people is they spent the night, or three, in jail waiting to see if the state that has the warrent will pay for the return flight.

If the charges are federal, they will always pay, after all, the tax man picks up the tab.

 

[Guest]

Has anyone here ever posted a cash bond?

 

[Pops]

Ballastman, you asked earlier if anyone was on the run. Most people would be stupid to answer that question, because you never know who reads this forum. TT has stated in an earlier thread that he skipped court, so we know his situation.

There are several things to consider. If you pay the bondsman 10%, he is going to have a family member sign a contract for the remainder before he puts up bail. If you skip, he will try legally to force the family member to pay the rest and if he doesn't get it, he will sick the bounty hunters on you. They have a much better chance of catching you than the cops do, as they usually don't follow the law and have fewer requirements to do so.

Your best bet is to pay the bail bondsman the full amount or pay the court the full amount, then only the cops will be after you, and they are overworked and incompetent. If you think that you have a chance to get busted, always have a current passport available. Local cops have to specifically notify the State dept. not to give you a passport or to not let you out of the country. I have no idea how many of them ever do that.

If you are going to run, do so long before your court date, so that the info is not in NCIC yet. Realize that once you run and it is discovered, you can never get a drivers license again as all but 5 states are now hooked up to NCIC and supposedly check before issuing a license. Due to the fugitive felon act of 2005, you will never be able to collect social security or SSI, as you have to put on your application if you have outstanding felony warrents, and they do check. It was one of congress's ways of cutting down on the dwindling SS funds. they just cut more people off the program. I don't know how it works with misdemeanors.

One of the ways that bounty hunters catch people is on utility records. There is a national database kept by several companies, who sell that info to businesses and supply it to LEO and sell it to bounty hunters. If you can rent a house, put the utilities in someone else's name. Do not have a bank account and do not use regular credit cards. If you have to have a phone, get a disposable pre-paid phone and change often. You can use payphones with a pre-paid phone card that can't be traced. You can also get an internet phone, but they usually require credit cards.

People always talk about getting fake ids, but it is almost impossible nowdays. All of the ID thefts have caused the states to crack down on getting IDs. Almost all of the bullshit you see on the internet promising fake ids that will scan and work are bullshit scam artists, usually located in another country. Since most of us are individuals, there arenn't many other people that look like us and few would allow you to use their ID.

If you are going to run, make sure that you are debt-free and that your credit is good. It is hard to rent anything without credit, but make sure that you don't use your credit, as it leaves a trail. Once your drivers license expire, you will not be able to stay in a motel, as you have to show current id to do so.

There are probably many factors that I haven't considered here, but it is about 5:00 a.m. here and I haven't been to bed yet. In general, if your crime is not especially serious, the cops will question your family and if they can't find you immediately, your file will go dead and be brought up every six months or so. Detectives are very busy and are quite lazy, so they won't look for you very hard. They will simply wait for a traffic stop or for you to get caught somewhere else committing a crime. Depending on the severity of the crime, they may not extradite you as they don't have the budget for it. As someone else said, you will spend several days in jail waiting for Florida prosecutors to make up their minds and then you will be sprung if they do not extradite. However, you will then be on your current state's radar and you will still have the outstanding warrants hanging over your head. Just because they won't extradite doesn't mean that they drop the charges. I am not sure, but I believe that once charges have been filed, there is no Statute of Limitation on the crime and they will not drop the charges over time. perhaps someone else can comment on that as i'm not sure.

Best thing is not to get busted as the new laws have made running a real bitch.

 

[Trichome Toker]

OGbub,

Something doesnt sound right. The courts want 10% with no collateral and you get the money back while a bondsman keeps the 10% AND wants collateral? Why would anyone use a bondsman?

Sometimes the court won't give you the 10% deal.

Sometimes the court wants 100% and you need a bondsman.

It all depends on the charges, it all depends on the judge.

In my county jail we have bail hearings every Tuesday for people who requested bail adjustments.

Sometimes the court wants all 100%, sometimes they want 10%, sometimes they want 0% and you just sign a piece of paper/ROR.

It can change as your lawyer puts in requests for bail reductions, and as your charges change at each stage of the trial from plea bargains etc.

You write "pink slips" to your lawyer or public defender requesting bail reduction, then your lawyer goes to a bail hearing and explains why your bail should be reduced.

This isn't mine, but here is a copy of a request to your lawyer for bail reduction, and they will send back with an answer what they will do.

From my personal experience I will tell you this will help greatly with bail regardless:

1. Have a verifiable address.
2. Have a job.
3. Own property.
4. Don't be charged with violent crimes.
5. Don't have a history of bail jumping.
6. File for reductions early, and often.