Cannabis Seed Morphology

[ahortator]

haystack < the triploid thread

ahortator also post to this thread haystack as well please you my get more feedback​

here is one such post over there

Somatic doubling is linked to mitotic processes (e.g., endoreduplication or endomitosis), which can take place within apical meristematic tissues or zygote cells, ultimately leading to the development of entirely polyploid organisms or mixoploid individuals

twins and even triplets are common in angiosperms

I have three reports from growers finding natural tetraploid in landrace seeds

Hi,

This is pretty common in citrics and in some mango cultivars from Phillipines, also those carried to Mexico. But I don't know about it in Cannabis.

Apomixis - Wikipedia

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[acespicoli]

PC

Brazilian Black AKA Cabeca de Nega or Bahia Black Head

One of my personal favorite smokes.

The Cabeça de Nega is thought to be one of the oldest strain brought to brazil. Smells of coffee, pine, orange and some other things very hard to describe. The taste is the same and leaves a coating in your mouth that you can taste for awhile. It has a nice smooth smoke but expands and makes you cough when you take a big hit. The high is mentally stimulating with a hint of body relaxation. It is very mind expanding making you realize truths in your life. This is some very special herb.

growing:
bushy type plant that grows almost as wide as it is tall. it gets right around 6-7 feet tall. big fat leaves and stems. the smells are hard to describe cause there is so many. some of them are coffee, pine, citrus more on the orange side, skunk, and sweetness. you have to watch for mold in flowering if the humidity is high. the buds are decently tight for a sativa but are still airy with good resin content that is sticky.



dried:
smell – fruity mango and coffee
taste – sweet, milky, fruity, woody, hashy, with hints of coffee. leaves a coating of flavor in your mouth that you can taste for a while.
high – very clear at first, creeps up on you and you feel its slowly pulse through your body, nice and relaxing. it puts you in a happy good mood, very positive herb. then it hits your head. you still feel the relaxing electrical pulses through the body. can be disorienting if you are trying to multitask but is great for sitting down and focusing on doing one thing. good for doing any kind of art or deep thinking. overall its a pretty clear up high with some body to it, that can help you find truth in your life.

 

[acespicoli]

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GARLIC BUD​

Here we never stop searching for the best original varieties on the planet. After a lot of work, we are very pleased to offer genuine Garlic Bud for your growing pleasure. This strain is possibly the most medicinal strain on our menu. It gives real relief for nerve pain, insomnia and general relaxation as well as being antianxiety and a paranoid free . This strain regularly comes in above 20% THC. The taste is of spicy garlic mixed with Afghan hash. Garlic bud is a mostly pure afghan with a touch of sativa which adds to the complexity of the flavors and lengthens the effect. Plants take 8 weeks to flower and are very resinous. This strain produces a heavy yield of dense flowers both indoors and out if your below 45 degrees latitude. Its an easy strain to grow that can take moderate to heavy feeding and is forgiving for the novice grower. Originally Garlic Bud was brought to the public by the Seed Bank in the 80’s and we here at Old School hope you will enjoy growing and consuming Garlic Bud as much as we do.
Flowering Time
Up to 8 Weeks
Yield
High
Effects
Very medicinal. Relief for nerve pain, insomnia and relaxation
Aroma
Spicy garlic

 

[Old Piney]

 

[acespicoli]

Pretty plants, very similar in appearance to the Nandi Devi being from the same village.
Thanks for sharing @Old Piney

 

[Old Piney]

Pretty plants, very similar in appearance to the Nandi Devi being from the same village.
Thanks for sharing @Old Piney

With gigantic Jurassic leaves in veg

 

[H e d g e]

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"Purest Indica" a.k.a. the Steve Murphy Afghan​

IBL (Inbred Line) Regular Seeds​

7 to 10 Weeks​

These seeds have been reproduced from plants grown from seeds that were stored since 1983.

The "Purest Indica" is the original variety of the Northern Lights line. It was first acquired in 1979 by Seattle Greg through the author Murphy Stevens as "Purest Indica" and became the backbone of all of the Northern Lights hybrids.

Seattle Greg told me that after he got the seeds from Murphy Stevens, he inbred them and passed the seeds he made around to his friends who crossed it with their seed stock and created what is now known as the Northern Lights line of #1 through #11. The #1 being closest to this original "Purest Indica" and the #11 being the most tropical and furthest from this "Purest Indica".

The buds are incredibly leafy, sticky and huge, the plants require a lower humidity and look like they came out of an Afghan desert. The leaves have longer leaflets that lay down and the plants have a similar structure to a Christmas tree.

Flowering time is fast and the smell is dank and gassy somewhere between burnt rubber with a hint of acrid smelling skunk. The high is heavy and sedative.

The seeds came to me directly from Seattle Greg in 2020. He told me that the seeds were placed in his sister's freezer in Seattle in the early 80s and were found after she passed away in 2019. His family sent the seeds to him and he got decent germination and sent some seeds to me and I reproduced them in my greenhouse.

This would be the first reproduction of these seeds in almost 40 years.

Seattle Greg also told me that he never sent the "Purest Indica" seeds to Nevil and The Holland Seed Bank because he did not want Nevil to be able to make the Northern Lights hybrids without him.

This is truly world class cannabis; I smoke it and wonder how many generations of farmers cultivated this variety as a hash plant back in Afghanistan or the Hindu Kush mountains and I give praise and respect to them all.

Check out the history of Northern Lights here:
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What is Northern Lights?​

Dec 06, 2022 by Todd McCormick

What is Northern Lights?​

Northern Lights is easily one of the most popular cannabis varieties in the world. Initially bred in and around Seattle by a small group of growers in the 70’s, it quickly turned into an international phenomenon.
Northern Lights acquired its iconic name after the legendary “Seattle Greg” sent seeds from his personal collection to a new Amsterdam seed company named “The Seed Bank of Holland.” founded by Nevil Schoenmakers.
For a long time the true story about the origin of Northern Lights was never discussed within the growing community because we all knew that we were being hunted down mercilessly in the expanding "war on drugs". When I first got to Amsterdam and began asking around about NL, I could only find out that the guy who sent the seeds to Nevil was named Seattle Greg, but not much else.
Shortly after Nevil passed away I wrote the article; "Legacy of a Legend" for grow magazine remembering Nevil's life and his revolutionary seed bank. Shortly afterwards I noticed a comment under that article from a guy named "Greg" who was giving personal credit to Nevil for spreading the Northern Lights genetics. I immediately messaged Greg and asked if this was the same Greg who first sent the Northern Lights seeds to Nevil in 1984 - and it was!
Greg and I became friends after talking on the phone and coming together over our shared love of cannabis cultivation. “Seattle Greg” as he is often called, is a retired Marine who had volunteered to join the military at 17, served from 1965 to 1969 then returned home to Seattle and began cultivating the cannabis he had started smoking during multiple tours in Vietnam from 1966-67. Upon returning home, Greg studied botany and natural sciences at the University of Washington and today in his 70s, Greg is still actively applying new science and technology to growing cannabis and sharing what he discovers with others.
In a recent (2021) 2+ hour conversation I got to ask Greg for more detail about the history and genetics of this legendary variety.
After returning from Vietnam and starting to grow, Greg discovered a book titled: How To Grow Marijuana Indoors Under Lights by Murphy Stevens (1975).

That book is absolutely one of the most advanced cultivation books to come out of the 1970s and includes information about enhancing growth using CO2, dehumidification, proper ventilation, carefully monitoring the resin production before harvest and also the technique of making cuttings and keeping mother plants. The book even included a catalog in the back of the book that sold hydroponic cultivation equipment from a Seattle shop called “Indoor Sun Sales”.
A passionate student of cannabis, Greg immediately made his way to the local hydroponic shop and befriended the owner and author Steve Murphy. As the years passed and their trust of one another grew, sometime around 1979, Steve gave Greg four seeds of an Afghan variety that he referred to as “Purest Indica” and that became the initial seeds that would go on to become the parents of the Northern Lights variety. Greg said those “Purest Indica/Afghan” seeds were the beginning of Northern Lights.
Northern Lights #2 was created by combining the Purest Indica with other Afghan genetics that Greg had collected from Oregon and California. Greg mentioned that it was his first attempt at making another variety using the Purest Indica and was always one of his favorites. He said that they would smoke the NL#2 and sell the NL#5 because he liked the sedative effects of the pure Afghan.

Photo: NL#2
You can buy Northern Lights #2 seeds here
One of the most refreshing elements of my conversation with Greg was the overall feeling of honesty and sincerity when I spoke to him and how he was not certain about certain genetics because they had no way of knowing the true origin, only what they were told and that he was never really sure the accuracy of what he was told.
Which brings me to Northern Lights #5. Greg told me that a person named Herbie who worked at Steve’s hydroponic shop bred the Purest Indica with a supposedly Hawaiian variety that Greg thinks was really from Northern Mexico, but he reminded me that we can never be too sure about where it really came from.

Photo: NL#5
When I asked him about the numbering system of Northern Lights #1 through #11, he told me that he made that up just before he sent the seeds to Nevil, along with the name “Northern Lites”, telling me that to him it meant that the plants were grown and bred up North under "lites" and that the spelling got changed by Nevil to the "lights" version after it arrived in the Netherlands.
The numbering system was #1 through #11, with #1 being the most Afghan and “Indica” as they called it back then, and as the varieties became more tropical/equatorial, or “sativa” as the numbers went up. Always honest, Greg said he does not remember all of the particular crosses because he did not make all of them. The Northern Lights seeds that Greg sent to Nevil and became famous was a collection of various crosses that Greg collected from his group of friends on the West Coast over the years that they had been breeding and sharing with one another.
Initially the relationship between Greg and Nevil started off smoothly with Greg gifting the first set of NL seeds to Nevil and then selling him the second set of seeds. Unfortunately, some time in 1986, Greg found out that Nevil had gone behind his back to buy so-called NL seeds from a different guy. That action got Nevil cut off from the true source of Northern Lights seeds, but Nevil just started to knock off the varieties he had and breed them with various other plants.
Greg also reported to me that he had not ever sent Northern Lights #1, the “Purest Indica” that he originally got from Steve Murphy to Nevil, and that instead Nevil “did what he wanted to” with the numbers and changed the history to suit his own narrative. Greg told me at some point he did send a NL#5 cutting to Nevil, but the #2 through #11 initially went to Nevil as seed varieties.
Unfortunately through various busts and “Operation Green Merchant” the original varieties of Northern lights seeds were all but lost, but as fate would have it, one of Greg’s relatives passed away and in an old freezer, his family found a collection of some of his old seeds from the early 80s including; Purest Indica, Northern Lights #2 and #5.
Greg sent me some of those old seeds so that I could do some germination testing and give him feedback on the viability of the genetics after all those years in storage and I was extremely surprised to get decent germination rates and some very vigorous plants. As a collector of old books about cannabis cultivation, I have copies of the Murphy Stevens grow books and I was astounded at the similarity of his photographs of “Purest Indica” to the plants I grew from the “Purest Indica” seed from his relative’s freezer given to me by Greg - they look practically identical.

Photo above: "Purest Indica"

"Purest Indica" a.k.a. the Steve Murphy Afghan IBL (Inbred Line) Regular Seeds

"Purest Indica" a.k.a. the Steve Murphy Afghan IBL (Inbred Line) Regular Seeds 10 Seeds for $50.00 ($5.00 each) 7 to 10 Weeks These seeds have been reproduced from plants grown from seeds that were stored since 1983. The "Purest Indica" is the original variety of the Northern Lights line. It...

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Has anyone tried these?
I’m tempted but not sure they ship to the uk. Weird they published the terps but not the cannabinoid profile, would be interesting to know if it’s free of cbd.
Maybe they didn’t publish cannabinoid % because they are low compared to the effects, this would be a sign of authenticity to me. Strange the similarities between terp profiles for this and og.
Eta. I emailed them to ask, the seeds look similar to oth. Mottled like wild bird eggs, less like eggs from a modern chicken.

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Usually, yes, but not at this time.’