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California AC Box **Spectacular**

hoosierdaddy

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apartmentblower,
Let's address it right now....
If you look at the sketch, you will see that there is a wall separating the grow room side from the rest of the unit. This is exactly as the unit would be if it were hanging in a window, and the grow room portion would be inside your house. This portion is also divided internally and there is no connection between the cold air that is being re-circulated on the grow room (house) side of the unit, and the coil side where the hot air is.
Since these areas are separated from one another, the air does not mix between the two ever. And this allows it to NOT be able to pull air from the cool side, which means it can't pull out any Co2 that is being recirculated in the grow room.
You don't see window AC units sucking out the cold air of the house do you?

The reason this turned into a shit fest is because the op didn't want to discuss his design, he only wanted to call it spectacular and had no room for any critique. And besides that he is a personal friend of Ed Rosenthal, and will get him to vouch for him. (another laughable crock of shit from another pompous ass kid from CA.)

I hate to see new growers, who have not studied these things, take the words of Bozo's simply because they don't know better.
The reason I did an AC thread last year in the first place, is because at the time the best AC tutorials this place had were centered around doing exactly what this guy did, and I knew it was a clowns move that would be a mistake to make. I felt there should be a better tutorial, plus I was researching the thing for my own purposes.
And if anyone sees fault with my design, I will gladly discuss it. But, if all one wants to do is make hollow statements such as it will suck out Co2, just be ready to back it up with something of substance. Not simply throw it out there and hope it will stick.
 

SKUNK420

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Globel's design might work fine. It has air entering and exiting the box so the fan inside the unit will be able to pull some air through the condenser coils.

BUT (the common sense part is next)

The other way of ducting fresh air straight to the intake on the A/C is MUCH better. That way the A/C fan doesn't have to fight the air turbulence inside the box and it won't recirculate it's own air already heated by the condenser.
See I like this squirrel's thinking and comments he read my post and easily saw the common sense in it.
 

globel

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when building a box like H diddlez you will have more issues and problems with your setup. Look at real world scenarios and not what some long fingered child is typing on the inter webz. I have build box's both ways his way and my way. There is a reason I choose the way I build box's. Its my experience. I have actually built these box's he just writes about them and then makes them out of cardboard... look at his gallery .. Remember I actually do this stuff. he just writes about it. And the kid was insulting me so I stopped posting and I think I proved him wrong and explained why many times so I see no need/point trying to educate him further.
 

globel

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oh and by the way, if you actually do build a box like H dada you will burn out your the FAN and brake your AC.....

There is a fan that is meant to cool down the Coils in the back.... what happens when you force that fan to turn faster when your sucking air through it with this boozo's design? You will turn the cooling fan faster then intended and you will cause it to brake within 2 months of use. You learn this through Experience, something H Diddlez has little of.. Please dont build a box like H diddlez He hasn't even built one his way out of wood yet.
 

Jellyfish

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Sorry, but you still sound crazy. I don't think you have proven hoosierdaddy wrong at all. You say you've built over twenty, I mean one hundred ac boxes, but I don't see anymore photos of your ac boxes than his.

To me, looking over the last few posts on this thread, it seems like you've been knocked out cold, and are laying on the canvas, looking up, yelling, "This ain't over."

IMHO
jf
p.s.- what ARE some of the "issues and problems with your setup" that one could expect to experience using hoosierdaddy's ac box. Educate us.
 

mojogreenhand

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when building a box like H diddlez you will have more issues and problems with your setup.
Wrong! A more efficient design will cause you to have fewer issues and problems.

Look at real world scenarios and not what some long fingered child is typing on the inter webz. I have build box's both ways his way and my way. There is a reason I choose the way I build box's. Its my experience.
Your experience? Why should I trust your experience when you obviously have a hard time grasping simple concepts, even when they are clearly written and explained by "some long fingered child'. Your so called real world experience leads me to believe you like doing things cheap and fast.

I have actually built these box's he just writes about them and then makes them out of cardboard... look at his gallery .. Remember I actually do this stuff. he just writes about it.
I've seen what you've built, it's looks thrown together fast and loose. Let me fill you in on something. When you have a fairly good understanding of how something works it's easy for you to write about it and explain it.

And the kid was insulting me so I stopped posting and I think I proved him wrong and explained why many times so I see no need/point trying to educate him further.
This bit's the best part! No he wasn't insulting you. You we're doing all the insulting and he was trying to start a dialog. You think you've proved him wrong? Have you read this thread? Hello?

Put the joint down dude you need to clear your head a bit.
 

mojogreenhand

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oh and by the way, if you actually do build a box like H dada you will burn out your the FAN and brake your AC.....

There is a fan that is meant to cool down the Coils in the back.... what happens when you force that fan to turn faster when your sucking air through it with this boozo's design? You will turn the cooling fan faster then intended and you will cause it to brake within 2 months of use. You learn this through Experience, something H Diddlez has little of.. Please dont build a box like H diddlez He hasn't even built one his way out of wood yet.

Ouch! Nail in your coffin man! The point that people have been trying to hammer down your throat is that ->YOUR<- design is what causes an AC to short cycle.
 

globel

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has any one built a box his way,.,... No and if they do it will burn out. Its simple Experience Obviously no one has any with his ac box design. Sad really.
 

globel

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This is why his gallery is full of cabs and Mine is 100+ plant grows =( I wonder why no one contracts him to build there grows...Maybe he has a reputation for braking ACs LMAO

Any one wanna explain to me why running the compressor fan faster is a good thing... and maybe how eventually braking the fan is a positive result?
 

globel

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Globel


H Daddy
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Prof is in the puddin.


I am just trying to save you guys from killing your ac's. Take it form some one with experience. Just build it the proper way, the way growers have been doing it for YEARS>
 

PharmaCan

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http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/really

Hope that helps you. Apparently you missed something in 4th grade.

:laughing:This coming from a clown who can't even spell Bozo correctly? :laughing:

Look globel, a/c boxes aside, you can't spell (it's break not brake you dimwit), don't know the difference between their, there and they're, can't punctuate or capitalize and have trouble just putting a coherent thought down in writing. For you to criticize someone else's education just goes to show what a totally ego-maniacal moron you really are. Talk about missing something in fourth grade - I doubt you could score well on a fourth-grade-level competency exam.

PC
 

globel

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Boozo is spelled correctly... Sorry to "break" it to you. Google it..


And the kid tried to say really wasn't a word... Are you for real ?
 

globel

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this is the attitude you get when you kids don't listen. Has ANY ONE BUILT A BOX LIKE H DADDY SUGGESTS. No... why.... it brakes ac's simple as that. (I explained why many times earlier)

If you don't wanna learn that's one thing but if you wanna just try to bash people please go find a different thread.
 

Corpsey

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If I was doing something for 20 years and it came out looking like your boxes I would stop, today.

And it is bozo the clown, I just googled that shit. whatever age you are, grow up!
 

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