Butane honey oil for dummies

[SpaceshipNelson]

Hamma, you think you're able to stabilize un-winterized material because you're using nugz? Or because you desiccate it to the point that even the paraffin lose their moisture? I'm curious because I pull so many waxes (especially with larf/trim) that if I don't winterize, I can't ever get it to stabilize. I mean sure you can Vac it for 20hrs and call it crumble, but a week or two later it begins to do the weeps and very slowly auto butter.

 

[hammalamma]

You loose some terps in purging the alcohol but gain smoothness from getting rid of the waxes.

spaceship: try dehydrating your material really really well before running it and have lots of air movement at your initial purge outside, evaporation. For me it seems easier to get the moisture out sooner than later.

 

[nuskool89]

You loose some terps in purging the alcohol but gain smoothness from getting rid of the waxes

In your opinion, if I'm using buds, really love shatter, and only use it for recreational purposes, will I be happy with an absolute final product? I wouldn't lose any potency would I?

 

[hammalamma]

In your opinion, if I'm using buds, really love shatter, and only use it for recreational purposes, will I be happy with an absolute final product? I wouldn't lose any potency would I?

I think you will be happy. If I had a better source of 190 proof I would make everything I smoke in to absolute. As of lately I found that if i do most of the purging outside with no heat with a screen over it and spread out very thin , then a short vacuum it has almost no loss in taste. But everyone who tries it remarks about the smoothness.

 

[hammalamma]

Hamma, you think you're able to stabilize un-winterized material because you're using nugz? Or because you desiccate it to the point that even the paraffin lose their moisture? I'm curious because I pull so many waxes (especially with larf/trim) that if I don't winterize, I can't ever get it to stabilize. I mean sure you can Vac it for 20hrs and call it crumble, but a week or two later it begins to do the weeps and very slowly auto butter.

It is the really hard shatters that last the longest for me, from what I read here the hardness has something to do with the carboxolic acid[prolly didnt spell that right]. Moisture is my pain in the ass. I think moisture degrades shit worse than butane ever could.

 

[Rolldaddy]

Great thread

 

[nuskool89]

I think you will be happy. If I had a better source of 190 proof I would make everything I smoke in to absolute. As of lately I found that if i do most of the purging outside with no heat with a screen over it and spread out very thin , then a short vacuum it has almost no loss in taste. But everyone who tries it remarks about the smoothness.

Thanks again, 190 is readily available in my state, but I'd take relaxed mj laws over ever clear lol.

You mention moisture is the biggest issue in your book, could I use an oil instead of water?

And one more thing, you sound like you've made a few batches, this would be my first. Out of an oz of high grade buds, could I expect 20% return? I'd give you re if I could I'm an ex RIU member

 

[nuskool89]

Rep**

 

[PistilPete]

get some teflon bags to do your purging in, once purged place in freezer. Once frozen you can peel it out of the bag leaving none behind, but be quick as the warmth of your hands will quickly melt it.

Can anyone tell me a good source for teflon bags? All i can find is this: http://toysbigandsmall.com/_mgxroot/page_10785.html

Will those work? If that's what i need i'll order some. I do not enjoy scraping at all.

 

[BigPete]

I got my Teflon bags from ebay, they're sold as teflon grill bags

 

[bugman52]

great info on HBO thanks

 

[SpaceshipNelson]

It is the really hard shatters that last the longest for me, from what I read here the hardness has something to do with the carboxolic acid[prolly didnt spell that right]. Moisture is my pain in the ass. I think moisture degrades shit worse than butane ever could.

same here, the reeeeel tough shatter is the good stable stuff, terps locked away inside awaiting their dutiful vaporization. It seems so perfect, so complete, like goldy locks ;-) not over purged, not under purged. Shelf stable indefinitely, yet who can resist vape'n it till its all gaaaawn. . . . :-D . . .

 

[DabznDank]

some serious envy now, thats the best stash box I have ever seen, that is one hell of a return weed looks dank too, I used 28g each time and I useually got around 3g, but i have had some good oily weed that I got 4.5g. I personally like it made from VERY dry lime green skunk, although a piney haze never did me wrong. What kind of weed do you like to make oil from as far as taste? Where did you get the box made?

I've ran over a pound of high grade bud in around 75 extractions, and I get around 20% every time.. Sometimes it's more or less but not enough to make it a hard thing to determine and actually be accurate.. I run about 10.5 grams a week, every week for my own personal pleasure, and it always dances between 0.6-7 on the scale every time, which is right at 20% return.. I used to hit each batch with butane 3 times, to make sure I got everything, but I found with experience, that I don't need everything, like chlorophyll and fatty oils & waxes from the plant matter... The only oils n waxes I want it's the kind that gets u high... So now I only hit it with the butane twice. Once, then I push the bud out the tube, mix & crush it up a bit more, repack it (half as tight as the 1st time, and hit it again till the yellow is gone.. My numbers remain the same even still, I.was right.. I also found that when you're running more than an eighth, u get more, or at least all you're supposed to get, if u split the bud up into eighths or less and do multiple runs instead of doing it all at once. Like if u were running a half oz, youd get the Max yield possible by doing 4 separate runs, instead of one big one, & hit each eighth twice with the tane. Don't believe me, try & see. U got nothin to lose.. Yes it takes 4x longer.. Whoopty fuckin doo! Don't be such a lazy fuck.. Go the extra mile, itll pay off, & u won't run out of gas, I promise. Well butane maybe lol. Just always but 2 cans... Even then tho you'll still never have enough & always gonna need more.. I kno I do..

 

[Waxmasta Flex]

id rather lose the half gram than do 1900 runs...but thats just me

 

[Crooked8]

I've ran over a pound of high grade bud in around 75 extractions, and I get around 20% every time.. Sometimes it's more or less but not enough to make it a hard thing to determine and actually be accurate.. I run about 10.5 grams a week, every week for my own personal pleasure, and it always dances between 0.6-7 on the scale every time, which is right at 20% return.. I used to hit each batch with butane 3 times, to make sure I got everything, but I found with experience, that I don't need everything, like chlorophyll and fatty oils & waxes from the plant matter... The only oils n waxes I want it's the kind that gets u high... So now I only hit it with the butane twice. Once, then I push the bud out the tube, mix & crush it up a bit more, repack it (half as tight as the 1st time, and hit it again till the yellow is gone.. My numbers remain the same even still, I.was right.. I also found that when you're running more than an eighth, u get more, or at least all you're supposed to get, if u split the bud up into eighths or less and do multiple runs instead of doing it all at once. Like if u were running a half oz, youd get the Max yield possible by doing 4 separate runs, instead of one big one, & hit each eighth twice with the tane. Don't believe me, try & see. U got nothin to lose.. Yes it takes 4x longer.. Whoopty fuckin doo! Don't be such a lazy fuck.. Go the extra mile, itll pay off, & u won't run out of gas, I promise. Well butane maybe lol. Just always but 2 cans... Even then tho you'll still never have enough & always gonna need more.. I kno I do..

10.5gs @ 10% = 1.05 grams. Better check that math bud.

 

[PistilPete]

Anyone try blasting into a pyrex lined with one of those Oil Slick Mats yet? Gonna pick one up and give it a shot. Looks like it might work pretty well.

 

[hammalamma]

Anyone try blasting into a pyrex lined with one of those Oil Slick Mats yet? Gonna pick one up and give it a shot. Looks like it might work pretty well.

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I wouldn't do it, the manufacturer says not to.

 

[PistilPete]

Good call. Glad i asked first.

 

[ThunderFnk420]

I blast a 1/4 of bud of OG cut up and i am getting 2 to 2.4 grams of wax. using about half can of tain.

 

[Tache420]

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