You are a grass, I hope you get buggered to death in prison.
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Uh, you all need to chill out and leave this kid alone. So what if he told the DEA that he bought some oz's off his friend? THE GUY HAD A WHOLE HOUSE FULL OF PLANTS! (50-200 lbs). OF COURSE THE GUY WAS SELLING. You don't grow 50-200 lbs (inflated numbers, surely, wet weight and rootballs, yet it still gives you an idea of the size of that operation) for personal smoke.
The prosecutors don't have to prove one sale to send his friend to prison. With that amount, he's going to be charged with trafficking. The law implies that you're selling it if you have over a certain amount.
I doubt the kid will ever testify about sales, especially piddly little 2-3 ounce sales. I doubt there will be any testimony about sales; the cultivation and possession/trafficking charges alone are enough to send his friend away for a number of years.
Why would he post on this board if he was the one who snitched on the op? And if he was the confidential informant, he wouldn't even be charged. Oh sure, they'll arrest him to make it look good in front of the friend, but you don't charge the confidential informant.
Wake up people! Put down the bowl and try to think logically. I know you all hate snitches, rightfully so, but don't let the paranoia make you lose your better judgment.
But as to the facts of the case, I don't see how they could prove beyond a reasonable doubt that he was involved in the grow op. He wasn't in the grow house when it was raided, presumably there's no evidence that he's ever been there (fingerprints, etc), he's not on the deed or the lease or any utility bills, and if the DEA was really doing a long investigation they would know he's not one of the principle players in the operation. Maybe the only charge that would stick is the quarter found in the house he was sleeping at, and even that's debatable if it was just out on the table.
My two cents. Good luck, kid.
The prosecutors don't have to prove one sale to send his friend to prison. With that amount, he's going to be charged with trafficking. The law implies that you're selling it if you have over a certain amount.
I doubt the kid will ever testify about sales, especially piddly little 2-3 ounce sales. I doubt there will be any testimony about sales; the cultivation and possession/trafficking charges alone are enough to send his friend away for a number of years.
Why would he post on this board if he was the one who snitched on the op? And if he was the confidential informant, he wouldn't even be charged. Oh sure, they'll arrest him to make it look good in front of the friend, but you don't charge the confidential informant.
Wake up people! Put down the bowl and try to think logically. I know you all hate snitches, rightfully so, but don't let the paranoia make you lose your better judgment.
But as to the facts of the case, I don't see how they could prove beyond a reasonable doubt that he was involved in the grow op. He wasn't in the grow house when it was raided, presumably there's no evidence that he's ever been there (fingerprints, etc), he's not on the deed or the lease or any utility bills, and if the DEA was really doing a long investigation they would know he's not one of the principle players in the operation. Maybe the only charge that would stick is the quarter found in the house he was sleeping at, and even that's debatable if it was just out on the table.
My two cents. Good luck, kid.
Anyone defending this kid is a dumbass IMHO. I sincerely doubt that you'd prefer one of YOUR friends to throw YOU under the bus (, train, and out of the plane) as he has done to his friend. WE know EXACTLY where we are coming from with our responses.
Remember, even on the job, dangerous or otherwise, COMPLACENCY is one of the main causes of fuck-ups and injuries (you call me paranoid, I call it cautious). Maybe if morons who take part in illegal activities KNEW their rights AND EXERCISED THEM, we wouldn't be reading dipshit threads like this or posts such as above...............
Remember, even on the job, dangerous or otherwise, COMPLACENCY is one of the main causes of fuck-ups and injuries (you call me paranoid, I call it cautious). Maybe if morons who take part in illegal activities KNEW their rights AND EXERCISED THEM, we wouldn't be reading dipshit threads like this or posts such as above...............
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- Meant to quote the op, not you zeezeeba amoeba said:
Super glad I don't know you. No offence, but you said WAY too much. Should have shut the hell up. They only take prints when someone gets killed, or raped. Serious shit like that. Not for "accomplices," who were NOT at the scene of the "crime."
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You fucked up.
You said way to much to the cops. When will you kids these days learn that 'shut the fuck up' just ain't a saying no more? You basically fucked your friend by saying you bought from him, and whatever innocence you did have about the grow in now blown.
If you did that to me I think I would be forced to crack your skull in.
You said way to much to the cops. When will you kids these days learn that 'shut the fuck up' just ain't a saying no more? You basically fucked your friend by saying you bought from him, and whatever innocence you did have about the grow in now blown.
If you did that to me I think I would be forced to crack your skull in.
Um, informants get charged all the time only they get lesser sentences or charges because there bitches and run there mouth to much.
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Raistlin Majere
Bababooey said:Uh, you all need to chill out and leave this kid alone. So what if he told the DEA that he bought some oz's off his friend? THE GUY HAD A WHOLE HOUSE FULL OF PLANTS! (50-200 lbs). OF COURSE THE GUY WAS SELLING. You don't grow 50-200 lbs (inflated numbers, surely, wet weight and rootballs, yet it still gives you an idea of the size of that operation) for personal smoke.
The prosecutors don't have to prove one sale to send his friend to prison. With that amount, he's going to be charged with trafficking. The law implies that you're selling it if you have over a certain amount.
I doubt the kid will ever testify about sales, especially piddly little 2-3 ounce sales. I doubt there will be any testimony about sales; the cultivation and possession/trafficking charges alone are enough to send his friend away for a number of years.
Why would he post on this board if he was the one who snitched on the op? And if he was the confidential informant, he wouldn't even be charged. Oh sure, they'll arrest him to make it look good in front of the friend, but you don't charge the confidential informant.
Wake up people! Put down the bowl and try to think logically. I know you all hate snitches, rightfully so, but don't let the paranoia make you lose your better judgment.
But as to the facts of the case, I don't see how they could prove beyond a reasonable doubt that he was involved in the grow op. He wasn't in the grow house when it was raided, presumably there's no evidence that he's ever been there (fingerprints, etc), he's not on the deed or the lease or any utility bills, and if the DEA was really doing a long investigation they would know he's not one of the principle players in the operation. Maybe the only charge that would stick is the quarter found in the house he was sleeping at, and even that's debatable if it was just out on the table.
My two cents. Good luck, kid.
for the record i have not smoked in weeks
i stand by my original post
snitches get stiches where i come from
this kid is a rat
and IMO should be banned for being here 4 years under the age of 18
he lied to everyone here for that long why should we believe him now
go read his posts again
snitches ruin other peoples lives, just cause they fucked their own up through bad decisions, and need a way out
truth is both the snitch and the guy snitched on will now suffer
hopefully the snitch suffer more !!!
Yeah and don't come into a weed forum and tell people to put the bowl down because we aren't thinking logically. As if you can't be logical when your high.
That's some fuckin' bullshit.
That's some fuckin' bullshit.
stop snitchin!
stop snitchin!
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rats.
noone deserves cops, or worse yet, narcs. yer a fucking piece of shit if u believe what u type.
twilight zone material right here
wtf?
stop snitchin!
killBababooey said:Uh, you all need to chill out and leave this kid alone. So what if he told the DEA that he bought some oz's off his friend? THE GUY HAD A WHOLE HOUSE FULL OF PLANTS! (50-200 lbs). OF COURSE THE GUY WAS SELLING. You don't grow 50-200 lbs (inflated numbers, surely, wet weight and rootballs, yet it still gives you an idea of the size of that operation) for personal smoke.
The prosecutors don't have to prove one sale to send his friend to prison. With that amount, he's going to be charged with trafficking. The law implies that you're selling it if you have over a certain amount.
I doubt the kid will ever testify about sales, especially piddly little 2-3 ounce sales. I doubt there will be any testimony about sales; the cultivation and possession/trafficking charges alone are enough to send his friend away for a number of years.
Why would he post on this board if he was the one who snitched on the op? And if he was the confidential informant, he wouldn't even be charged. Oh sure, they'll arrest him to make it look good in front of the friend, but you don't charge the confidential informant.
Wake up people! Put down the bowl and try to think logically. I know you all hate snitches, rightfully so, but don't let the paranoia make you lose your better judgment.
But as to the facts of the case, I don't see how they could prove beyond a reasonable doubt that he was involved in the grow op. He wasn't in the grow house when it was raided, presumably there's no evidence that he's ever been there (fingerprints, etc), he's not on the deed or the lease or any utility bills, and if the DEA was really doing a long investigation they would know he's not one of the principle players in the operation. Maybe the only charge that would stick is the quarter found in the house he was sleeping at, and even that's debatable if it was just out on the table.
My two cents. Good luck, kid.
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rats.
noone deserves cops, or worse yet, narcs. yer a fucking piece of shit if u believe what u type.
twilight zone material right here
wtf?
"Take 'em for a ride boys." "A one way ride." (as said in the voice of Edward G. Robinson)
By the way; (in addition to the bus, train, plane ----> woodchipper scenario) I think you also took you "friend's" remains out of the wood-chipper.....stuck them in a blender with your favorite protein powder....ingested it...digested it.....and then put it in a ziplock baggy that you launched into the sun.
That's how badly you burned them. There's not much more you can do to screw them except maybe p*ss on their graves while holding their grandmother at gunpoint after sodomizing them without KY Jelly and stealing their dentures.
What the &*#&@!@ is wrong with you?
By the way; (in addition to the bus, train, plane ----> woodchipper scenario) I think you also took you "friend's" remains out of the wood-chipper.....stuck them in a blender with your favorite protein powder....ingested it...digested it.....and then put it in a ziplock baggy that you launched into the sun.
That's how badly you burned them. There's not much more you can do to screw them except maybe p*ss on their graves while holding their grandmother at gunpoint after sodomizing them without KY Jelly and stealing their dentures.
What the &*#&@!@ is wrong with you?
Bababooey said:Uh, you all need to chill out and leave this kid alone. So what if he told the DEA that he bought some oz's off his friend? THE GUY HAD A WHOLE HOUSE FULL OF PLANTS! (50-200 lbs). OF COURSE THE GUY WAS SELLING. You don't grow 50-200 lbs (inflated numbers, surely, wet weight and rootballs, yet it still gives you an idea of the size of that operation) for personal smoke.
The prosecutors don't have to prove one sale to send his friend to prison. With that amount, he's going to be charged with trafficking. The law implies that you're selling it if you have over a certain amount.
I doubt the kid will ever testify about sales, especially piddly little 2-3 ounce sales. I doubt there will be any testimony about sales; the cultivation and possession/trafficking charges alone are enough to send his friend away for a number of years.
Why would he post on this board if he was the one who snitched on the op? And if he was the confidential informant, he wouldn't even be charged. Oh sure, they'll arrest him to make it look good in front of the friend, but you don't charge the confidential informant.
Wake up people! Put down the bowl and try to think logically. I know you all hate snitches, rightfully so, but don't let the paranoia make you lose your better judgment.
But as to the facts of the case, I don't see how they could prove beyond a reasonable doubt that he was involved in the grow op. He wasn't in the grow house when it was raided, presumably there's no evidence that he's ever been there (fingerprints, etc), he's not on the deed or the lease or any utility bills, and if the DEA was really doing a long investigation they would know he's not one of the principle players in the operation. Maybe the only charge that would stick is the quarter found in the house he was sleeping at, and even that's debatable if it was just out on the table.
My two cents. Good luck, kid.
In case you can't read, they weren't in the house with the plants when the law came. Junior didn't need to be feeding them information. Put down the bowl and think logically. Just because they bust the dude you think it's OK for Junior to pack the evidence against him? Let him hang out at your place.
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ureapwhatusow
i question not only potheads integrity but the growers
never get TOO close to your custies or let them you know your the source
I know a dude who has THE SAME EXACT bud every time I ask him, at least 10 + years of THE EXACT SAME chronic, but if I were to ask him for some bud HE WOULD STILL BS ME, and say I don't have any, but when ill put in an order with my buddy and when he gets it youll get it. I know its a sketch cause I am pretty slick with perception and memory and he slipped up a couple times, but for years I alwasy bought his story, and if I were a person who cared for nothing but myself and was willing to take any out I would run LEO on an awful long goose chase
never get TOO close to your custies or let them you know your the source
I know a dude who has THE SAME EXACT bud every time I ask him, at least 10 + years of THE EXACT SAME chronic, but if I were to ask him for some bud HE WOULD STILL BS ME, and say I don't have any, but when ill put in an order with my buddy and when he gets it youll get it. I know its a sketch cause I am pretty slick with perception and memory and he slipped up a couple times, but for years I alwasy bought his story, and if I were a person who cared for nothing but myself and was willing to take any out I would run LEO on an awful long goose chase
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ureapwhatusow
NFN the story sounds funny
after being here for 4 years, regardless of age you must ahve read at least on busted horror story liek the one your spelling out
i think it happened a different way and you said, fuck everyone else, what about me, im only 18
you werent there cause you bought a few ounces over the years
doesnt add up
but thank you for the reality check, i know i didnt stay a clandestine grower for 15 years without good reason
after being here for 4 years, regardless of age you must ahve read at least on busted horror story liek the one your spelling out
i think it happened a different way and you said, fuck everyone else, what about me, im only 18
you werent there cause you bought a few ounces over the years
doesnt add up
but thank you for the reality check, i know i didnt stay a clandestine grower for 15 years without good reason
binaryfission
Member
accessndx said:
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yamaha_1fan
I dont even know what to say. In honesty, he probably didnt hurt his buds too much really. He still should have STFU. BTW after you did all that talking, did they let you go or lessen the charge? seems like a BIG NO!!
At this point, get a job, hire a lawyer and stay away from crime, you cant seem to handle the pressure.
I just dont understand why people talk to the cops.
And if I was charged with possession over 50#'s I damn sure wouldnt be asking some guys on a weed board what to do.
Talk to many lawyers. Have your facts straight, maybe put it down on paper. Dont tell the lawyer what you think the law is, just try to present the facts in straight forward manner. Remember this is big for you but they hear stuff like this all day long.
At this point, get a job, hire a lawyer and stay away from crime, you cant seem to handle the pressure.
I just dont understand why people talk to the cops.
And if I was charged with possession over 50#'s I damn sure wouldnt be asking some guys on a weed board what to do.
Talk to many lawyers. Have your facts straight, maybe put it down on paper. Dont tell the lawyer what you think the law is, just try to present the facts in straight forward manner. Remember this is big for you but they hear stuff like this all day long.
zeeba amoeba
Member
I researched xxPotheadxx because something about his post made me curious. The question in my mind was, did his extensive (200 posts) involvement on ICMAG contribute towards himself and his friends getting busted?
He posted pics of his room (incl. a photo on the desk of a man, possibly himself or a relative) and gave out his hometown, which is not a big city by any means. The pics show detail of an apartment so basically all Leo has to do is look for apartments in a small town where the interior door trim/walls matches what's in the picture. Also let slide a bunch of details about his address, his home's position on the street, family, their occupations, etc. EXIF information on the pics he posted reveals what kind of camera he used, just a minor detail really compared to the others.
So my conclusion is yes, his posting of messages on ICMAG could have contributed to his getting busted. I don't recall his giving another reason for the bust. Any agent worth his salt could have found xxPotheadxx, if they felt it was worth their while. Probably a hundred plus plants qualifies.
On the other hand it's human nature to talk about such things. Not everyone is used to subterfuge. Also there's a schizophrenic element in the human psyche, that makes outlaws *want* to be caught. This has to be contained.
This makes a good case for sock puppets...dropping old aliases and creating new ones. Also, for cultivating bullshit details about yourself. If you're white, pretend you're black. If you're hispanic, pretend you're Japanese. If you're poor, pretend you're rich. et cetera.
All in all I have to say xxPotheadxx's latest news is instructional and educational in a variety of ways. I hope he gives us an update on the outcome and any additional info he finds out.
He posted pics of his room (incl. a photo on the desk of a man, possibly himself or a relative) and gave out his hometown, which is not a big city by any means. The pics show detail of an apartment so basically all Leo has to do is look for apartments in a small town where the interior door trim/walls matches what's in the picture. Also let slide a bunch of details about his address, his home's position on the street, family, their occupations, etc. EXIF information on the pics he posted reveals what kind of camera he used, just a minor detail really compared to the others.
So my conclusion is yes, his posting of messages on ICMAG could have contributed to his getting busted. I don't recall his giving another reason for the bust. Any agent worth his salt could have found xxPotheadxx, if they felt it was worth their while. Probably a hundred plus plants qualifies.
On the other hand it's human nature to talk about such things. Not everyone is used to subterfuge. Also there's a schizophrenic element in the human psyche, that makes outlaws *want* to be caught. This has to be contained.
This makes a good case for sock puppets...dropping old aliases and creating new ones. Also, for cultivating bullshit details about yourself. If you're white, pretend you're black. If you're hispanic, pretend you're Japanese. If you're poor, pretend you're rich. et cetera.
All in all I have to say xxPotheadxx's latest news is instructional and educational in a variety of ways. I hope he gives us an update on the outcome and any additional info he finds out.
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SemperAltus
Active member
zeeba amoeba said:
who cares... hes a POS rat that no doubt will rat out all his homies... hopefully hes off our site so he got one less snitch motherfucker...
too many friends lifes have been ruined by someone who was afraid to do a little time...
/okay im done ranting... but if the OP is still reading and checking.. hopefully he does the right thing and says he lied and takes whatever he gets like a man... maybe he needs a little lovin from the homies ..
okay haha now im done.
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BlazeTheSky
Member
Bababooey said:Uh, you all need to chill out and leave this kid alone. So what if he told the DEA that he bought some oz's off his friend? THE GUY HAD A WHOLE HOUSE FULL OF PLANTS! (50-200 lbs). OF COURSE THE GUY WAS SELLING. You don't grow 50-200 lbs (inflated numbers, surely, wet weight and rootballs, yet it still gives you an idea of the size of that operation) for personal smoke.
The prosecutors don't have to prove one sale to send his friend to prison. With that amount, he's going to be charged with trafficking. The law implies that you're selling it if you have over a certain amount.
I doubt the kid will ever testify about sales, especially piddly little 2-3 ounce sales. I doubt there will be any testimony about sales; the cultivation and possession/trafficking charges alone are enough to send his friend away for a number of years.
Why would he post on this board if he was the one who snitched on the op? And if he was the confidential informant, he wouldn't even be charged. Oh sure, they'll arrest him to make it look good in front of the friend, but you don't charge the confidential informant.
Wake up people! Put down the bowl and try to think logically. I know you all hate snitches, rightfully so, but don't let the paranoia make you lose your better judgment.
But as to the facts of the case, I don't see how they could prove beyond a reasonable doubt that he was involved in the grow op. He wasn't in the grow house when it was raided, presumably there's no evidence that he's ever been there (fingerprints, etc), he's not on the deed or the lease or any utility bills, and if the DEA was really doing a long investigation they would know he's not one of the principle players in the operation. Maybe the only charge that would stick is the quarter found in the house he was sleeping at, and even that's debatable if it was just out on the table.
My two cents. Good luck, kid.
Sounds like a fink defending a fink!
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K.A.R KILL ALL RATS
THE KIDS A FUUKING RAT
IT WAS ONLY TWO THING YOU WERE TO TELL HIM
1.I DONT KNOW AND HAVE NOTHING TO SAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!
2.CAN I CALL MY LAYWER NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!
BECAUSE IF THEY HAD ANYTHING ON YOU....THEY DONT WANT TO TALK...THEY HAVE WHAT THEY NEED TO CHARGE YOU...SO IF THEY START ASKING YOU QUESTIONS IT ONLY TO TRIP YOU UP AND TELL ON YOUR SELF......WHICH HE DID AND NOW HE READY TO TELL ON EVERYBODY ELSE....THEY SHUT THE DOOR ON THE BOX AND TOLD HIM HE WAS NEVER GOING TO HIT THE STREET EVER AGAIN AND HE STARTED TELLING HIS WHOLE LIFE STORY..THAT WHY HE GAVE HIM THE CARD..D.E.A. GUY SAY DAM I COULD USE HIM LATER ON DOWN THE ROAD..HE'S NOW KNOWN AS WHAT THEY CALL A C.I.
K.A.R.
KILL ALL RATS
THE KIDS A FUUKING RAT
IT WAS ONLY TWO THING YOU WERE TO TELL HIM
1.I DONT KNOW AND HAVE NOTHING TO SAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!
2.CAN I CALL MY LAYWER NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!
BECAUSE IF THEY HAD ANYTHING ON YOU....THEY DONT WANT TO TALK...THEY HAVE WHAT THEY NEED TO CHARGE YOU...SO IF THEY START ASKING YOU QUESTIONS IT ONLY TO TRIP YOU UP AND TELL ON YOUR SELF......WHICH HE DID AND NOW HE READY TO TELL ON EVERYBODY ELSE....THEY SHUT THE DOOR ON THE BOX AND TOLD HIM HE WAS NEVER GOING TO HIT THE STREET EVER AGAIN AND HE STARTED TELLING HIS WHOLE LIFE STORY..THAT WHY HE GAVE HIM THE CARD..D.E.A. GUY SAY DAM I COULD USE HIM LATER ON DOWN THE ROAD..HE'S NOW KNOWN AS WHAT THEY CALL A C.I.
K.A.R.
KILL ALL RATS
