Bud Mountains 2015 GG

[gorilla ganja]

can't see any pics

 

[MountainBudz]

Hell fire... lol.

Could someone explain why when I uploaded them from my pc that they are blank now but showing plain as day afterwards??

 

[MountainBudz]

Ah hah! Problem solved. I had them set as private, they are now visible! Enjoy

 

[pipeline]

Looks like slight nitrogen deficiency and some disease. Should be fine. Thats awesome. 4 and a half feet from the road! Those can be some of the best spots! Plenty of sunshine.

 

[MountainBudz]

Oh yeah pipeline, definitely got some leaf septoria or tobacco virus of some sort. Pretty sure its septoria though.

Im fixing to order some green cure and actinovate, will these help? Im trying to keep it organic..

Seems like ive struggled with this disease before. Dont remember it affecting the buds though. It is so close to finishing it might not be worth the worry.

 

[pipeline]

Always prune out diseased tissue. Now if theres just a spot or 2 and the leaf is still good. Pull off one or 2 leaflets instead of the entire leaf. Sometimes you can let it go until the next trip and see if the minor spot progresses. If in doubt pick it out. Diseased tissue will lead to further infection. Spores are made as it grows. I wouldn't spray. Just pick it out and it should be ok.

 

[MountainBudz]

I have a question about watering. I have went all summer without watering and only top dressing my girls with organics on some and chem ferts on others before the rains come in.

We have had ALOT of rain this year in my area, more than usual. So I have been lucky and my plants have had very much water all through veg. Now, it has slacked down. This month it hasn't even rained once. It hasn't rained in almost three weeks now.

How much would my plants benefit with supplemental watering in the ground, since most are at least almost half way through flowering. The ones that have only a couple weeks left I don't see benefiting a whole lot, but the ones that are almost halfway through, will they benefit much and increase yield if I water a couple times a week?

 

[MountainBudz]

Well doesn't seem if anyone has any info or experience with this vs having none at all. So, I shall just water anyway and see how much it really helps.

I understand it WILL be beneficial, but to what extent I don't know. The earth is decently already saturated and I could go the rest of the time till harvest and not have to water, I know this, but IF it increases yield i'd definitely be hauling water to them. I know all vegetative growth is done during flowering, but will watering yet give bigger yields?

 

[gorilla ganja]

I'd say if you stick your finger into the soil a couple inches and you feel decent moisture then your probably wasting your time watering. IMO. I would say it also depends on the size of the plant. I know you were plating late in the season and have a lot of plants out, so if you are going to water just hit the biggies.

 

[MountainBudz]

I think I will give em a decent watering once or twice a week anyway Gorilla. It can't hurt, it could only help. I am bored and need to keep myself busy and by doing this, at least I am doing something productive.

I need to be focusing on foilar spraying some BT on my girls asap, that is for sure. The bud worms I have noticed are starting to infest pretty heavily. Anyone know how often BT should be applied to the buds? And should I add a sticking agent to cling it on a bit better?

I always use Ivory dish soap in every and all foilar applications because not only is it a sticking agent, it also helps things break down and keeps bugs at bay pretty well.

Does the rain wash the BT off pretty badly? As now I am seeing some rain in the forecast.

Not a good thing either in my opinion, I don't want anymore rain, for the rest of the year here. Bud rot is a bitch and the rain injects bud rot with steroidal like traits lol.

 

[MountainBudz]

Well, just went and checked on a row (patch) of plants that I put out around the first of June, which I supplemented with water twice last week for the first time and all I can say is WOW! I am having to bend these girls down EVERYWHERE to keep them from being noticeable from people passing through.

I honestly can say, do not hesitate to plant late by any means! Depending on how late though is another thing. These girls were put out around the first of July, seed plants and one clone. Put a few other clones scattered about as well, unfortunately they did not take well and died.

These plants are in a row, 4 ft wide by about 18-20 foot long and they are some beasts. I originally thought this would be a bumper crop, but now looks as if it will be a big part of my harvest. Paranoia is setting in deeply now as I cannot believe how much bud is in this small area, it is massive. All of a sudden I have anxious thoughts running through me, what if someone is watching it other than I and worrying about bud rot as well.

They are all tied away from each other pretty much, some places can't help to touch each other but i'm going to have to start doing something as a botrytis preventative asap!

Since last week the buds have filled out so much and so thick it blows my mind. I had a 7 gallon watering container, made three trips all together back and forth and fed them a mixture of primordial solutions true blooms as well as there sea green and rootamentary, jacks bloom booster, fox farms beasty bloomz, calmag, organic honey, molasses, agave nectar and a kelp mixture. I know that is a lot but I did not mix it very heavily. It absolutely made them explode.

I will try and get some pics of this plot tomorrow in the daylight and will post them if possible.

Now all im worried about is a bud rot preventative and maybe getting some BT for the bud worms, I have a bottle never been used made by Garden Safer but it is going on 3 years old, not sure how viable it is now.

Sorry for rambling so much, but I do not get the time to update often and this just tickled the shit out of me lol. I honestly might have put out more than I can handle alone this year.

Next year I will definitely do many larger plants as singles and doubles in each plot, along with a few of these later patches. I have been sexing plants almost nightly with the really late season minis I have been planting, it is a pain, but God willing, will be worth it.

Stay tuned for an update hopefully soon!

 

[MountainBudz]

A couple things I noticed after writing that post that I left out was the sugars mixture. I mixed the nutrients in that mixture lightly except for the primordial solutions line, which isn't really a nutrient. But when it came to the molasses, honey and agave nectar I absolutely just poured it in the container, lots of it. Did not measure, just used way way more than recommended.

Another interesting thing about this plot is, aside from most of the plants being what I bred the last two years, half of them are imported brick weed seeds. I know the guy that had the brick had a few different batches of it. This stuff was packed so hard that a lb would fit into a spam can if not a lb and a quarter. It would F a grinder up lol.

Very soaring sativa high with a difference in each batch, so I bought a few ounces of each just for the seeds. The leaves are very thin, long fingered, looks like I may have a few landraces going on as well, which i'm excited about. The smell from the really sativish phenos is different. I don't know how to describe it that well but its sort of spicy, piney, cat pissy and the others are spicy, cat pissy, earthy and a bit of citrus tones as well.

Wish I knew where it was imported from.

 

[MountainBudz]

Well guys I have came home heart broken this morning. I checked up on a plot last night and bud rot already hitting the plants pretty good. Not much actual rot yet just the webbings. One that was really bad I brought home and harvested what I could. Was definitely finding evidence of caterpillars or worms. There little fucking black balls of shit on the buds.

I am pissed. I am going back tomorrow night and taking the alcohol and peroxide and zip lock freezer bags to remove what I can find to burn..... Infected buds that is. What should I do guys? I'm tired of dealing with this shit. Too much work to get screwed by a nasty mess of bud rot.

Should I order spinosad and start spraying along with some actinovate? I need something to keep it from spreading before it gets out of hand. I hae a good three weeks left on most of them... It is sad, very sad. Daconil is the only chem fungicide I have that states it stops and controls botrytis specifically. I know it is bad shit, but I don't care anymore. If this will guarantee me a harvest I will use and smoke it. Will it work?

 

[bruvio]

its too late to do anything against them. its not the time to spray your buds.

 

[Kygiacomo!!!]

Well guys I have came home heart broken this morning. I checked up on a plot last night and bud rot already hitting the plants pretty good. Not much actual rot yet just the webbings. One that was really bad I brought home and harvested what I could. Was definitely finding evidence of caterpillars or worms. There little fucking black balls of shit on the buds.

I am pissed. I am going back tomorrow night and taking the alcohol and peroxide and zip lock freezer bags to remove what I can find to burn..... Infected buds that is. What should I do guys? I'm tired of dealing with this shit. Too much work to get screwed by a nasty mess of bud rot.

Should I order spinosad and start spraying along with some actinovate? I need something to keep it from spreading before it gets out of hand. I hae a good three weeks left on most of them... It is sad, very sad. Daconil is the only chem fungicide I have that states it stops and controls botrytis specifically. I know it is bad shit, but I don't care anymore. If this will guarantee me a harvest I will use and smoke it. Will it work?

sucks to hear about the bud rot bro! i havent got a spec of mold on my plants. now do u see why i was so hardcore this year in veg with building my ladys up and keeping their SAR activated? it just is not worth it to not do it. i think i might have paid around 200$ for all the products i used this year for grey mold prevention with the highest thing being the regalia which was 90$ for a gallon shipped. i also only used nothing but outdoor proven strains this year and i have now found my 5 awesome strains that i will be running as my insurance strains from here on out. i will also throw a few new testers each year but i will not depend on them,but they must be mold resistant or i will not run it. u need to get the Delahaze man!! it does so awesome here in our area..its got all the assets that a guerilla could ever want from potency,yeild,bud to leaf ratio and super high mold resistance. prevention is the best way to keep this shit under control and yes from what i have read Daconil is one the best that will control botrytis cinerea aka grey mold. i also have a bottle of it but so far i have not had to use it. i been using the organic prevention things and so far they are working great. what im using for Bud rot control is chitosan in the form of insect frass to topdress and bud factor x to spray,Sns244c which is essential oils,B-52 which has Vit b1 & b2,Salicylic acid, regalia,actinovate & greencure. i have not used the actinovate or greencure yet but next time i go to the plants i will use actinovate just to be on the safe side. i will only use the greencure if i see a brown spot to spray that bud to kill all spores and cut it off. to be honest im really surprised that all these SAR inducing products are actually working. last year i as just so sick at all the plants i lost due to mold so i made sure this year would be all about prevention and i would not grow nothing guerilla style unless i had read about 3 or more ppl having good success with a certain strain outdoors before i bought them. here is a good list of strains that are rocking it for me this year..Delahaze,jacky white,blueberry headband,the church and biddy early. next year i will be runnning all these plus 3 new strains that are proven for guerillas which will be blue widow,swiss cheese & either belladonna or moby dick. u notice 3 paradise strains on this list. paadise has alot of great outdoor genetics a few others of their hardy strains are durgta marta,spoetnik#1 and dutch dragon! i will be trying the last few i mentioned in the years to come but never grow without the Delahaze its a gueranteed mold free harvest as long as the rippers dont get it first..gl man

 

[MountainBudz]

Well a little update, the rot is not being cause by unhealthy plants or your "normal" case of but rot.

It is bud worms, these worms are very small, you cannot see them because they are in the bud. Most buds infected you could not even tell. One very obvious sign of them are the pistils turning brown or red early on, which some were turning almost black in my case.

I noticed something that really caught my eye this morning with my LED light shining in the misty fog, long strings of single thin webs literally everywhere coming down from the trees on top of my plants and pretty much everywhere, which is unfortunately the dreaded bud worm.

I didn't start with my BT program at all this year, that is the only damn thing I needed to do to prevent this from happening and I knew it, I knew better. Now in a couple hours, i'm going to mix some of my BT up to 5 tsp per gallon of water since it is almost two years old, i'm going to take a bottle of hydrogen peroxide and alcohol and some surgical tools.

I will browse each and every bud, pick what worms I can, cut remove and sanitize all dead material and webbing's. Then I will drench the buds in BT since they are so thick and the weather for the next 5 days at least will be hot and sunny.

I will NEVER go without using BT started preflower ever again, this has been whats happening to me and what I "think" is bud rot just being absorbed by strains that can't handle it, it really comes down to it being the damn worms. I've seen this over and over again and for the last 3 hours I have been reading all I can online about these fuckers and this is definitely the cause.

It is all out war starting today, hope the BT treats my buds well. If I run across some plants that are too heavily infected then I will go ahead and chop them. I know the bud is already killer but the weight is lacking a bit. I had a friend sample some the other day and he claims its the best he has had around here this year. Man I really wanted to take them in 2-3 weeks, I will do what I have to do.

And thanks for chiming in Ky.

 

[Kygiacomo!!!]

Well a little update, the rot is not being cause by unhealthy plants or your "normal" case of but rot.

It is bud worms, these worms are very small, you cannot see them because they are in the bud. Most buds infected you could not even tell. One very obvious sign of them are the pistils turning brown or red early on, which some were turning almost black in my case.

I noticed something that really caught my eye this morning with my LED light shining in the misty fog, long strings of single thin webs literally everywhere coming down from the trees on top of my plants and pretty much everywhere, which is unfortunately the dreaded bud worm.

I didn't start with my BT program at all this year, that is the only damn thing I needed to do to prevent this from happening and I knew it, I knew better. Now in a couple hours, i'm going to mix some of my BT up to 5 tsp per gallon of water since it is almost two years old, i'm going to take a bottle of hydrogen peroxide and alcohol and some surgical tools.

I will browse each and every bud, pick what worms I can, cut remove and sanitize all dead material and webbing's. Then I will drench the buds in BT since they are so thick and the weather for the next 5 days at least will be hot and sunny.

I will NEVER go without using BT started preflower ever again, this has been whats happening to me and what I "think" is bud rot just being absorbed by strains that can't handle it, it really comes down to it being the damn worms. I've seen this over and over again and for the last 3 hours I have been reading all I can online about these fuckers and this is definitely the cause.

It is all out war starting today, hope the BT treats my buds well. If I run across some plants that are too heavily infected then I will go ahead and chop them. I know the bud is already killer but the weight is lacking a bit. I had a friend sample some the other day and he claims its the best he has had around here this year. Man I really wanted to take them in 2-3 weeks, I will do what I have to do.

And thanks for chiming in Ky.

bro that is part of the prevention process u gotta spray neem,spinosoad or BT when the flowers first appear for a couple weeks. i used neem and BTI up till week 2 of flower. next year now u know whats up make sure to keep the plants coated with these to avoid these little fukers. i hope the BT kicks their ass! from what i have read on it,its best to catch them early in the morning to spray with and u also will want to spray early bc u dont want ur plants sitting over night with extra moisture on them..let me know how it finish out though bro. throw up a couple pics of the cali hashplant! im gonna try the blue hashplant next year..a few Ky growers on here has done said its a great strain for guerillas and our climate..ya we got next 6 days coming of nice sunny no clouds weather. this will be a big week for our plants as i will be chopping about 6 more between next friday and end of the month. im starting a few plants on Advanced nutes overdrive today and then hit them with flawless finisih for 3 days and then pure water for 3 and choppy chop!! gl bro

 

[MountainBudz]

Well i'm fixing to be on my way to start working on em. It is raining on and off now so i'm going to just do all the cleaning up today and in the morning after clean up hit them with the insecticide. I have decided to use pyrethrin instead of BT because it is really out of control.

I had read a post earlier by D.S. Toker where he stated he has used pyrethrin for 20 plus years with no adverse or ill effects. I just can't afford to lose it this year.

Thanks for the good vibes Ky

 

[Kygiacomo!!!]

Well i'm fixing to be on my way to start working on em. It is raining on and off now so i'm going to just do all the cleaning up today and in the morning after clean up hit them with the insecticide. I have decided to use pyrethrin instead of BT because it is really out of control.

I had read a post earlier by D.S. Toker where he stated he has used pyrethrin for 20 plus years with no adverse or ill effects. I just can't afford to lose it this year.

Thanks for the good vibes Ky

i hear ya bro! when i first seen that leaf spot shit on my plants back in veg i went st8 and bought some eagle 20 and hit all my plants that was affected with it and BOOM gane and not seen it since. that was back in june when i sprayed them with it. i smoke cigs so im sure im smoking worse then eagle 20 anyways if it is even left in the plant.

 

[MountainBudz]

Got some permethrin hi yield 33% pretty strong shit, and 5 lb bag of CAPTAN fungicide from the farm store which I have never used before but hear its maily used for rot bunch types and botrytis specifically. Also the toxicity rate is pretty small compared to Daconil. Figured i'd heard of this stuff by now.

Well guys fixing to mix the stuff up and head out and go to war this morning. Will let you know how it went and if it progressed in the last couple days or not...