Bubba Kush

[VerdantGreen]

Any idea what the difference is between P98 and Katsu as far as lineage/history ? Sorry if this has been already discussed in the past!

musta's take on it is quite possibly true, although i have never seen an S1 of the pre-98 with quite the same bud structure as the katsu. Also the katsu seems to have a little more vigor than the pre-98

if i was guessing lineage just on the basis of the two cuts, i would suspect that they may well be siblings from the same batch of seeds or 2 pheno's from the bubba inbred line - originally labelled 'purple bubba' and 'green bubba' - but now called pre-98 and Katsu.

either way they are both great and having only grown out the katsu once, my theories might change.

 

[VerdantGreen]

Now that you have the Katsu, can we expect Katsu S1 in the future??

hey CN quite possibly, but atm i am more excited about doing a feminized cross of the pre-98 and the katsu!

VG

 

[Cannavore]

Any idea what the difference is between P98 and Katsu as far as lineage/history ? Sorry if this has been already discussed in the past!

the commonly held pre98 comes from swerve. likely an S1 or S2 of one of the other cuts.

a couple people in the early days sold katsu bubba s1s it wouldnt surprise me if bubba is just like og kush origins in the sense that many of theog cuts likely come from orgnkids s1's that he sold and i wouldnt be surprised if bubba was the same way.

Katsu recieved the orgnkid/greencrackman bubba in 2001 i believe.

the bubba kush nspecta has for instance was sourced pre-2000.

 

[Cannavore]

its also possible orgnkid had pollen contamination when he made those s1's

 

[Samuel Caldwell]

hey CN quite possibly, but atm i am more excited about doing a feminized cross of the pre-98 and the katsu!

VG

Now that sounds fun!

 

[VerdantGreen]

hey Cannavore - thanks for that!

whilst you are here, what can you tell us about Bhodi's bubba cut - is it bubba '93?

where do you think that fits in??

cheers

VG

 

[Cannavore]

hey Cannavore - thanks for that!

whilst you are here, what can you tell us about Bhodi's bubba cut - is it bubba '93?

where do you think that fits in??

cheers

VG

bodhi has used the katsu, pre98, and 93/original cut but i think his mainstay is the 93/Original.

the 93/Original comes from a guy named Shabud (aka 707 Seedbank same guy who sourced the norcal catpiss aka pittsburgh piss) and was sourced as far back as possibly 1998. this is the original pre98 bubba. according to guys like Nspecta the commonly held pre98 Bubba is an S1 or something that originated from Swerve.

i posted this recently in another thread but basically my understanding is the Original/93 Bubba Kush is the earliest sourced cut and is also the real pre98 Bubba Kush.

basically all properly sourced 93/Original is pre98 but not all pre98 is 93/Original

is my understanding of the situation mainly intetpreting posts made by guys like Nspecta and having picked his brain briefly on this topic.

 

[VerdantGreen]

thanks for that, i do suspect that there is more than one bubba cut out there called the pre-98... which doesnt necessarily mean that they aren't all legit! i guess people that were holding a bubba cut that was older the '98 would start calling their cut the pre-98 when the name was invented (that's pure speculation on my part though)

i did hear from a guy who has the bubba 93, the katsu and the pre-98 (same one as mine i think) and he's running them all together to see what's up with them.

i won't name-check him but he may swing by at some point and let us know what he finds out

VG

 

[Cannavore]

IMO any cut thats available "to the public" through a dispensary or nursery likely has multiple versions floating around. pre98 is definitely one of them. not only did swerve release an S1 of bubba as the real thing but he also sells/sold a pre98 BK bx2 for the longest time.

ill have the 3 bubbas soon myself. i'll be popping these katsu bubba regs soon and i want to stick all the cuts in to get open pollenated

These are the known Bubbas as far as i know;

Original Bubba Kush aka '93 Bubba Kush
Katsu Bubba Kush
pre'98 Bubba Kush (Swerve)
Blanco Bubba Kush (S1 of Katsu i think)
Bombthreat Bubba Kush (S1 of Original/93)

Then there's the historic "green" and "purple" bubba cuts stories that people say are NOT the katsu (green) and pre98 (purple).

It gets kind of confusing the further you go back.

 

[MJPassion]

 

[BombBudPuffa]

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That is awesome!

 

[VerdantGreen]

i have some more pics of the cuts. here is the pre-98 about 5 weeks into flower

 

[VerdantGreen]

and the katsu:

the lower buds on the katsu seem a bit more inclined to swell and 'fill in' the gaps

finally a katsu from a bit earlier in flower... about 4 weeks

VG

 

[Nirrity]

anybody tried both dinafem's and humboldt's bubbas? which one to go?

 

[Mustafunk]

anybody tried both dinafem's and humboldt's bubbas? which one to go?

I think the same company owns both brands so both should be based on the same bulk seeds?

 

[Thcvhunter]

Go with Bodhi if you want seeds of a clone.

He actually puts in work to find recessive males so that the offspring are very much like tge mother (clone only).

Ive been seeing fake Bubba clones going around.
Theres an unmistakeable flower structure to bubba

Stick with breeders that are respected by other breeders.

CBG's Peyote Purple is a Katsu Bubba S2 and is a great represntation of the line and also carries the unmistakable Bubba trait.

 

[Nirrity]

i dunno why you say so? i haven't heard anything bad about dinafem.. now humboldt i haven't heard anything at all.
either way you don't need any breeding to make S1, you just need authentic clone and some sts.

i did grow peyote purple and didn't like it. super slow vegging, miniscule yields and the high which mostly in the head, i'd rate it as 50/50 or 60/40 sativa/indica. now i saw Shmavis said he didn't find verdant's pre'98 S1 as couchlock neither but from what i understand pre'98 is at least more indica leaning than katsu.

hey Mustafunk which company is this?)

 

[Shmavis]

While it’s true I didn’t find the couchlock/knockout I was looking for, it’s also true that I more than likely took it too early for that effect to dominate. Trichs were significantly more clear than cloudy and/or turning amber. It was necessary for me to harvest at 70 days since I was leaving on vacation. It’s quite possible that with a later harvest and a higher percentage of amber trichs, I might’ve found the effect I was originally looking for. Differing harvest windows (not to mention plants) need to be explored before saying the effect I sought isn’t to be found in this offering.

All that aside, I pulled just over 3oz from one plant and find myself regularly reaching for Bubba when I have plenty of other jars of flowers to choose from. It may not have ended up being what I was looking for, but it did end up being my favorite of my current stash. I was told before trying Bubba that it’s true medicinal cannabis — I agree; I love it. A while back after sharing some with a friend he felt compelled to get a pack of VG’s S1s. Not being a forum member he’d never heard of VG, but that didn’t stop him.

Not the greatest pics as I'm new to this usb microscope world, but you can see how little amber there is. VG's Pre-98 S1 with a little over a year cure:

 

[VerdantGreen]

The pre-98 i would say has a very indica body-stone but there is also a cerebral element to the high that keeps the thought processes flowing and this offsets the feeling of couch-lock somewhat. People that use bubba for a narcotic sleep-inducing hit tend to flower it for longer. By most visual indicators it looks ready by 8 weeks and i tend to take it 8-9.
The katsu, which i have only held for a few months, it very similar to the pre-98 imo, definitely a different cut but a lot more similar than i expected it to be.

i have started looking into a feminized cross of the two bubba cuts. first test grow is here
https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=348755
and i will be testing it out soon too.

VG

 

[VerdantGreen]

lol shmavis we cross-posted!

fwiw, the only cut i have found that actually helps me sleep is Chem D, but i have always been a light sleeper.

VG