Broad Mites?

[someone else]

I only got to 110, I'm not sure if the heat killed them but I'm pretty sure the carbon monoxide did. Broad and cyclamen mites do need oxygen and my house was a freaking gas chamber, it even smelled outside. I sustained 110 for 1 hour which isn't enough to kill them alone but I think the heat made the eggs hatch then the carbon monoxide finished them off. Just to be sure I'm staying up for lights out to follow up with triple action neem. I also just bought the og biowar because its too late for me to use avid or forbid. I would not recommend propane or kerosene heaters to anyone that isn't very thorough and safety minded. Carbon monoxide (CO) isn't the same as carbon dioxide (CO2) it will kill you dead without any of the warnings (light headed, dizzy) that CO2 poisoning has.

 

[OrganicOzarks]

Can anyone find the link to the lab direct website for the bioinsecticides??

Searched this thread up and down, thought it was here, might have seen it in chat

10x markup on the og pack because he knows he's selling to growers.

I called the USDA, and the EPA, and you need a special permit to import them. There is a ton of regulations pertaining to biological controls. I also spoke with the dr. and he does not ship small orders. So even if you get your paperwork in order with the Federal Governement you will have to buy more than anyone on here will ever need.

 

[LEDNewbie]

I called the USDA, and the EPA, and you need a special permit to import them. There is a ton of regulations pertaining to biological controls. I also spoke with the dr. and he does not ship small orders. So even if you get your paperwork in order with the Federal Governement you will have to buy more than anyone on here will ever need.

Hey bud did u see my question to you on the previous page?? Thanks.

 

[SooperSmurph]

I called the USDA, and the EPA, and you need a special permit to import them. There is a ton of regulations pertaining to biological controls. I also spoke with the dr. and he does not ship small orders. So even if you get your paperwork in order with the Federal Governement you will have to buy more than anyone on here will ever need.

These guys are supposedly in the process of opening up a retail portion of their website: http://www.nutricare-international.com/ Bio-Care Foliar = OGBiowar

And may be processing individual orders through email now, just sent them a message asking for minimum purchase amounts and any special purchase conditions.

 

[OrganicOzarks]

These guys are supposedly in the process of opening up a retail portion of their website: http://www.nutricare-international.com/ Bio-Care Foliar = OGBiowar

And may be processing individual orders through email now, just sent them a message asking for minimum purchase amounts and any special purchase conditions.

The Dr. told me that soemone was stocking all 3 of his products in California. These must be the guys.

Something to keep in mind about OGbiowar foliar is that he has 10 biologicals in his mix. The Dr.'s only has 5. Now that doesn't necessarily mean one is better than the other, but it does mean that OGBIOWar is not just buying, and reselling the dr.'s mix. OGBIOWAR is not making a 9 times markup either. People need to not speak about shit they don't know about. Landed cost in the US for the dr.'s mix per kg is $27. OGbiowar foliar cost me $84 per kg. Remember that OGBIOWAR foliar is not just the dr.'s mix either. So the markup seems to be about right. He is most likely doubling his money.

1 kg makes 50 gallons of foliar spray. Honestly if it cost $84, or it cost $60 that is cheap as shit. It replaces so many things that regardless of the $24 difference you will be saving money. It will be nice to see someone else in this market in the US. I would expect for all of them to start seeing import issues. I won't get into that in an open forum though.

 

[sunset limited]

The best by far.... you can find it cheaper online of course....Frys will price match in the store

http://www.frys.com/product/6879906?source=googleps&gclid=CPeLjuu4-LcCFWcV7AodXhYATQ

Portable...Clear as can be in detail....saves pics you can upload to your computer...and its cheap!

got that scope on your recommend. couldn't have been more disappointed. for one thing, you can't scan the field. wherever you put the scope down, that's the one place you'll be able to look. the lcd monitor was kind of wonky too.

speaking of3 photography, any of you guys have microscope pix of the mites? and has anyone been able to detect motion under the scope? i've got a single plant with wicked taco leaf. need to id positively though. not much good for comparispn on the web.

 

[OrganicOzarks]

This would work for your
http://store.amscope.com/b490a.html

Or most anything on this page
http://www.amscope.com/Binocular.html

Any of them in the $300 range will do you very well. Obviously the quality will go up with the price, but these are much cheaper than say an olympus bh2 which used go for $2500.

Stop playing with the toys. Get a real scope.

 

[OrganicOzarks]

If you want a camera port then order from this page
http://www.amscope.com/Trinocular.html

 

[Avinash.miles]

i use a carson z orb
got pretty good pics of hemp russet mites back in 2012 when they were fukn up my life.
def ws good enough for positive id.
and broads aren't that much smaller than hemp russet mites, so it should be fine for seeing them, especially if you have a bad infestation

good luck

 

[OrganicOzarks]

I have a flower room that is a little over 3 weeks in, and it looks fuller than normal already. No duds to be had. Compost tea twice per week foliar fed, and soil drenched. The "dud's" must apply to chemical growing as I am not seeing this at all. My plants have rebounded, and are showing no signs of ever having any BM, or BM toxin. I expect this to be my biggest harvest to date.

I have already chopped two rooms, one had no damage, and the other had the worst damage late in flower. The one late in flower had decreased yields, but then they bounced back, and put on some extra weight. They smelled to high heaven, and the quality was the same as usual. Other than decreased yield the quality was great.

My moms are growing like crazy, and are not showing any signs they had bm's either. They are actually growing faster than usual due to the twice weekly compost tea feedings. My clones are also growing like crazy, and showing no signs of BM toxin, or BM's.

I have a flower room vegging right now as well, and they are growing very fast. It looks like I will be able to flip them sooner than expected.

As I suspected the compost tea twice weekly is making my rooms grow like crazy. As of now no one would have ever known that I had BM's.

Unlike most people on here, I am a gardener first. Cannabis just so happens to be one of the things that I grow. The BM's hit all of my pepper starts, eggplant, and herbs. The herbs, and most of the eggplants did not make it. Almost all of the peppers made it, and are growing like crazy. I am doing the same twice weekly treatment on these plants, however the young age of the plants worked against them. I am actually surprised at how many young plants (they were 1"-2" tall) that I was able to save.

It was interesting to see how the BM's effective all of the different types of plants. The eggplant leaves started to get rust colored spots, and look like swiss cheese. Then they would stop growing, and finally dry up, and die.

After seeing the effects on multiple different types of plants, and plants that are at multiple different stages, or age, it appears that the Bm toxin effects younger, less, established plants the most. The older the plant the less the effect of the BM toxin.

I find it very ironic that I did not use any chemicals, and all of my gardens are now flourishing. My vegetable gardens are doing extremely well, and my cannabis is doing the same.

I wish more people would read books based on science then listen to people on forums that have no idea what the fuck they are talking about.

Nature of the internet I suppose.

 

[Some old dude]

I will post my sesults

I will post my sesults

I have a flower room that is a little over 3 weeks in, and it looks fuller than normal already. No duds to be had. Compost tea twice per week foliar fed, and soil drenched. The "dud's" must apply to chemical growing as I am not seeing this at all. My plants have rebounded, and are showing no signs of ever having any BM, or BM toxin. I expect this to be my biggest harvest to date.

I have already chopped two rooms, one had no damage, and the other had the worst damage late in flower. The one late in flower had decreased yields, but then they bounced back, and put on some extra weight. They smelled to high heaven, and the quality was the same as usual. Other than decreased yield the quality was great.

My moms are growing like crazy, and are not showing any signs they had bm's either. They are actually growing faster than usual due to the twice weekly compost tea feedings. My clones are also growing like crazy, and showing no signs of BM toxin, or BM's.

I have a flower room vegging right now as well, and they are growing very fast. It looks like I will be able to flip them sooner than expected.

As I suspected the compost tea twice weekly is making my rooms grow like crazy. As of now no one would have ever known that I had BM's.

Unlike most people on here, I am a gardener first. Cannabis just so happens to be one of the things that I grow. The BM's hit all of my pepper starts, eggplant, and herbs. The herbs, and most of the eggplants did not make it. Almost all of the peppers made it, and are growing like crazy. I am doing the same twice weekly treatment on these plants, however the young age of the plants worked against them. I am actually surprised at how many young plants (they were 1"-2" tall) that I was able to save.

It was interesting to see how the BM's effective all of the different types of plants. The eggplant leaves started to get rust colored spots, and look like swiss cheese. Then they would stop growing, and finally dry up, and die.

After seeing the effects on multiple different types of plants, and plants that are at multiple different stages, or age, it appears that the Bm toxin effects younger, less, established plants the most. The older the plant the less the effect of the BM toxin.

I find it very ironic that I did not use any chemicals, and all of my gardens are now flourishing. My vegetable gardens are doing extremely well, and my cannabis is doing the same.

I wish more people would read books based on science then listen to people on forums that have no idea what the fuck they are talking about.

Nature of the internet I suppose.

I have purchased the foliar and root packs. I like the idea of natural fungus spreading and killing the the bM's I like the idea of the root pack mediating the toxins. Usually things that sound to good to be true are just that. Not that I don't believe, but I will see for myself and report. If it works the sellers of this product will not be able to keep it in stock. Thanks for the information about this.

 

[Phillthy]

anyone have a link where i can get swirskii and californicus mites?

 

[Jbomber79]

TACO

TACO

SL- that taco leaf shit is prob not mites senior, I had that a few weeks ago was lack of air flow and slight bit of heat...imo

got that scope on your recommend. couldn't have been more disappointed. for one thing, you can't scan the field. wherever you put the scope down, that's the one place you'll be able to look. the lcd monitor was kind of wonky too.

speaking of3 photography, any of you guys have microscope pix of the mites? and has anyone been able to detect motion under the scope? i've got a single plant with wicked taco leaf. need to id positively though. not much good for comparispn on the web.

 

[Jbomber79]

tuff one

tuff one

Phil I bet there is some dealers in the so part of Cal where they
grow all the barriers Watsonville issh area. Dude Moses wetfet
online he is all bout the predator mites.

anyone have a link where i can get swirskii and californicus mites?

 

[Jbomber79]

http://www.koppert.com/products/products-pests-diseases/products/detail/swirski-mite-1/

Edit: Moses Wellfeet!

 

[sunset limited]

This would work for your
http://store.amscope.com/b490a.html

Or most anything on this page
http://www.amscope.com/Binocular.html

Any of them in the $300 range will do you very well. Obviously the quality will go up with the price, but these are much cheaper than say an olympus bh2 which used go for $2500.

Stop playing with the toys. Get a real scope.

neither of these scopes would be any good for pest identification. they're both compound microscopes and have incredibly small depth of focus. they are bottom lit and are for looking at slices so thin that light readily passes through them.

i have a decent stereo microscope. problem is, a decent camera for it costs a bundle. the one that came with it makes awful photographs. so far, my little $20 usb endoscope takes better pics than any of the others i've found for less than $500.

SL- that taco leaf shit is prob not mites senior, I had that a few weeks ago was lack of air flow and slight bit of heat...imo

it's definitely not heat or air flow issues. my shit is pretty dialed. thanks for registering your opinion though.

can anyone please furnish decent photographs? there's a lot of good pictures from electron microscopes, but that doesn't approximate what i'm going to see on my bench.

and have any of you seen anything moving or are these largely stationary critters?

 

[OrganicOzarks]

neither of these scopes would be any good for pest identification. they're both compound microscopes and have incredibly small depth of focus. they are bottom lit and are for looking at slices so thin that light readily passes through them.

i have a decent stereo microscope. problem is, a decent camera for it costs a bundle. the one that came with it makes awful photographs. so far, my little $20 usb endoscope takes better pics than any of the others i've found for less than $500.



it's definitely not heat or air flow issues. my shit is pretty dialed. thanks for registering your opinion though.

can anyone please furnish decent photographs? there's a lot of good pictures from electron microscopes, but that doesn't approximate what i'm going to see on my bench.

and have any of you seen anything moving or are these largely stationary critters?

You gotta think outside the box. All of those scopes listed on those pages will work. Any compound, or trinocular will work as well. Yes they are bottom lit, but with the addition of the light from a powerful LED flashlight from the top you can get a very clear look at what pests you have. They actually work very well for this use.

The optics are going to be better, not great, but better than these toy scopes everyone is buying off of the net.

As far as cameras go, yes they are expensive. I use my dslr with an adapter to take pictures and video. I also have a stand alone computer, and monitor set up just for taking pictures, and video through the scope. The camera is much better than spending hours looking through the eye pieces.

 

[Storm Shadow]

got that scope on your recommend. couldn't have been more disappointed. for one thing, you can't scan the field. wherever you put the scope down, that's the one place you'll be able to look. the lcd monitor was kind of wonky too.

speaking of3 photography, any of you guys have microscope pix of the mites? and has anyone been able to detect motion under the scope? i've got a single plant with wicked taco leaf. need to id positively though. not much good for comparispn on the web.

That's not how I use it...

Rip a leaf off the plant... Flip it over... scan the meristem.... it should take about 1-60 seconds to see an egg... and that's it

Looking for adults... can take forever... they move around.. I cant find eggs on my plants if my life depended on it.. so it works great

 

[Storm Shadow]

There is not better portable microscope for this job... its not something you need to scan BM embryos in 10X 1080 HD... but a few years back.... my first use of it... say 2 min...I took these 2 pics..and started my Holy War against Broad Mites

I'mma BMK 4 Life
(Broad Mite Killer)

 

[bubbler720]

pred mites

pred mites

anyone have a link where i can get swirskii and californicus mites?

I got mine US based:
SWIRSKI: http://www.everwoodfarm.com (they can get Californicus as well)
Other option: http://www.biconet.com

Released Californicus on friday, not seeing any improvement (leaves look ok, problem is stunting). doesn't appear pred mites hatched/survived - nothing new moving under scope and BM eggs still there. Dialed humidity with combo Sentinel CHHC.4 and Lasko 15 in. Tall Misto Outdoor Misting Fan ($160). note: on misto fan - the water supply must be manually turned on/off. I have the water supply coming from an electric 1/6 HP pump piggy backed to Misto.

Swirski arrive Tuesday along with new USB scope.