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OrganicOzarks
So wouldn't it be just as easy to make a willow bark tea, and foliar spray, and soil drench?
Is there data proving this?
Is there data proving this?
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Broad Mites?
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Some old dude
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Evidense
Evidense
The only "evidence" I have is the many years I though I had what I now referred to as the "TMV Years" when everyone including me thought we had some strange virus not accepting the tiny menace we now know as BM's. It worked them to awake the plants immunity and now we know why . It helps the plant fight the BM toxin at least it has with the many dud's I have grown over the years it's been my experience without reservation it help revive and recuperate plants that are infected with the BM toxins this is just my personal observation. But other horticulturists have know for decade's the benefits of aspirin on helping ailing plants vigor. I think any source of "salicylic acid" would work be it a tea from the tree bark or whatever.
Evidense
The only "evidence" I have is the many years I though I had what I now referred to as the "TMV Years" when everyone including me thought we had some strange virus not accepting the tiny menace we now know as BM's. It worked them to awake the plants immunity and now we know why . It helps the plant fight the BM toxin at least it has with the many dud's I have grown over the years it's been my experience without reservation it help revive and recuperate plants that are infected with the BM toxins this is just my personal observation. But other horticulturists have know for decade's the benefits of aspirin on helping ailing plants vigor. I think any source of "salicylic acid" would work be it a tea from the tree bark or whatever.
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Retrogrow
Retrogrow
I would like to personally thank "'Retrogrow" for his innovative and responsible thinking and work he has done with this BM problem. I myself had passing thought's of heat or even milivolt electricity passing through the plant but the real hero here is Retrogrow allowing people to choose between serious chemicals (and that's ok if they choose ) or the very clean use of heat treatments. Thank you sir, you deserve your place in history as a visionary.
Retrogrow
I would like to personally thank "'Retrogrow" for his innovative and responsible thinking and work he has done with this BM problem. I myself had passing thought's of heat or even milivolt electricity passing through the plant but the real hero here is Retrogrow allowing people to choose between serious chemicals (and that's ok if they choose ) or the very clean use of heat treatments. Thank you sir, you deserve your place in history as a visionary.
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SooperSmurph
If all else fails trying to find non-coated aspirin, your local dollar store type establishment should definitely have them, they always have the cheap awful crap that's just on the edge of marketability.
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OrganicOzarks
how often are you applying the aspirin? Soil drench, foliar, or both? I use plant based teas weekly so I could just throw in some willow bark if need be. Suppose it wouldn't hurt.
Make your own willow water: http://www.bluestem.ca/willow-article1.htm
Some old dude
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Hydro rezivour
Hydro rezivour
Hydro rezivour
I use hydro so I use 1 325 mg per gallon every other nute change or every other week appox in flower. Mother's get aspirin about once or twice a month in the soil watering. Or sometimes I just foliar spray the mothers.
I saw that. Never had experience with it. Don't know why any light would harm a plant, but I always go with premium lights. Hortilux are good. Not that expensive. I wouldn't skimp on bulbs. Quality bulbs give more lumens = more growth. I still think you may have a problem with that "expando" foam. I would get rid of that box. I have had problem with that foam once, and learned never to use it. The vapors from it permeate everything. Hopefully you have all good bulbs now and everything will return to normal. At least you know your plants are tough. They have been through hell and survived. Veg them a little extra for recovery time. You're lucky you don't have BMs.
I would like to personally thank "'Retrogrow" for his innovative and responsible thinking and work he has done with this BM problem. I myself had passing thought's of heat or even milivolt electricity passing through the plant but the real hero here is Retrogrow allowing people to choose between serious chemicals (and that's ok if they choose ) or the very clean use of heat treatments. Thank you sir, you deserve your place in history as a visionary.
Thanks for the kind words. After the frustration of dealing with these for years, I saw that greenhouses/commercial growers were using hot water dunks as standard treatment for BMs on various fruits & vegetables, but when I tried hot water on cannabis, I found they don't like it. I was using chems on my 7 foot plants and it was a pain in the ass spraying them every three days. Delayed the flip because of them, but then decided to take a chance on the whole crop by just heating the room up, as you can't spray in flower. I didn't know what the result would be, but I sat in that room to watch in case of impending disaster. I was pleasantly surprised to see plants perk right up after treatment, and nothing but dead bodies under the scope. Plants weren't harmed at all. Saved that grow for sure. Just don't go too high on temps and no fans blowing on the plants, and you are good.
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OrganicOzarks
Great improvement.
Man am I glad none of my plants ever looked that bad.
That being said I did end up scrapping a few because they were not looking good. Glad to see you can bounce back from them.
Are these cuttings from mothers that had BM?
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0261219407002530
Acaricidal efficacy of neem against Polyphagotarsonemus latus (Banks) (Acari: Tarsonemidae)
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The broad mite, Polyphagotarsonemus latus, is one of the most serious pests attacking chilli pepper in Brazil. Aiming to offer an additional tool to be used for its control, we tested the acaricidal effect of neem, Azadirachta indica, on P. latus. Chilli pepper seedlings were sprayed with neem seed extract (NeemAzal T/S, 1% of azadiractin) at concentrations of 0.05, 0.10, 0.15 and 0.20 g a.i./l, with abamectin 1.8% (Vertimec 18 CE) and with water. Adult females of P. latus were transferred to each treated plant and after 6 d, the instantaneous rate of increase (ri) was calculated. All mites on plants treated with abamectin died without ovipositing before the end of the experiment. The ri for P. latus decreased linearly with increasing neem concentration, with the population growth rate becoming negative when mites were exposed to plants treated with neem at concentrations higher than 0.13 g a.i/l.
Acaricidal efficacy of neem against Polyphagotarsonemus latus (Banks) (Acari: Tarsonemidae)
Abstract
The broad mite, Polyphagotarsonemus latus, is one of the most serious pests attacking chilli pepper in Brazil. Aiming to offer an additional tool to be used for its control, we tested the acaricidal effect of neem, Azadirachta indica, on P. latus. Chilli pepper seedlings were sprayed with neem seed extract (NeemAzal T/S, 1% of azadiractin) at concentrations of 0.05, 0.10, 0.15 and 0.20 g a.i./l, with abamectin 1.8% (Vertimec 18 CE) and with water. Adult females of P. latus were transferred to each treated plant and after 6 d, the instantaneous rate of increase (ri) was calculated. All mites on plants treated with abamectin died without ovipositing before the end of the experiment. The ri for P. latus decreased linearly with increasing neem concentration, with the population growth rate becoming negative when mites were exposed to plants treated with neem at concentrations higher than 0.13 g a.i/l.
Nice!!!
Glad it worked out for you.
Your setup sounds really professional.
I would love to see it
Now bring on the neg rep from my troll boy, fatuous pinhead, StormBoy, hiding in the shadows. What a cowardly punk, hiding like the boy he is.
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Yes they are. It WAS ugly.
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Very interesting
Very interesting
Just reading very interesting article about how studies of the broad mite reveal that in the old orange growing areas of "coastal southern California" (Irvine in particular.) The old orange groves would get Broad mite infestations . But, when the Santa Ana's would kickup as they do with high heat and low humidity the mites would die off. And this report stated that in Riverside Co and inland areas that regularly get temps in excess of 120 degrees for days at a time there is no summer citrus problem of the broad mite. (I tried to c/p the article) but it was adobe and it would not let me .But ,It appears I believe this article was from the Calif AG dept 1982.This would entirely explain why the two small plants I grew outside last summer did not get infested . While the indoor, is climate controlled and a constant battle.
Very interesting
Just reading very interesting article about how studies of the broad mite reveal that in the old orange growing areas of "coastal southern California" (Irvine in particular.) The old orange groves would get Broad mite infestations . But, when the Santa Ana's would kickup as they do with high heat and low humidity the mites would die off. And this report stated that in Riverside Co and inland areas that regularly get temps in excess of 120 degrees for days at a time there is no summer citrus problem of the broad mite. (I tried to c/p the article) but it was adobe and it would not let me .But ,It appears I believe this article was from the Calif AG dept 1982.This would entirely explain why the two small plants I grew outside last summer did not get infested . While the indoor, is climate controlled and a constant battle.
i understand when the subject matter is contentious and guys are adamant about their shit working, but this whole internet warrior longcocking is pretty childish. when i see otherwise respectable growers resort to name calling and k- over an issue that is wrecking people's grows, my heart breaks a little.
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ps. i could NEVER intentionally bring my room up to 120° F or higher. the mercury hits 85 and i go start taking apopleptic fits. that's just me though.
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i do not understand the notation g a.i./l. specifically, what does the a.i. stand for?
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ps. i could NEVER intentionally bring my room up to 120° F or higher. the mercury hits 85 and i go start taking apopleptic fits. that's just me though.
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i do not understand the notation g a.i./l. specifically, what does the a.i. stand for?
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Well said. Both respected members here acting like noobs brings down the whole site!... Go sit and smoke a bong together and laugh it off...
bubbler720
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cheers to that
FWIW it's taken almost a year for some of mine to bounce back to being relatively vigorous again.
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