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Breeding for the best stimulating effect

Cvh

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Carraxe

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This is not from ACE. Does show what a killer Malawi hybrid can look like. These are some of the best Sativa Hybrids I've found in years. These seeds are at least 10 years old. I have the last 3 seeds soaking now. Last pic is pollinated

Malawi Gold x Grinspoon.

That looks real good. How much time has it been flowering? How are smells on that? I just discarded the cross between Malawi and Titan's Haze because of the lack of flavor.
 

Hammerhead

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There all on 60 days

I've had those seeds for a long time. They were not in a breeder pack just in a tiny vile with a tag attached. . I've been growing mostly Sativa or Haze for the last 3 years. I got tired of the same chemotypes. Today people think the quality we talk about from 1970 was just nostalgic which is so not true.. Those old lines were unpolluted. Finding really good plants happened more often back then. We don't find this kind of quality very often anymore. It's all been polluted with other people's attempts to make something good.


The Malawi x Grinspoon has a sharp floral scent.. The flavor is terpene rich. I can't say what the flavor is. This is one of the other siblings. The pheno I pollinated I didn't have her backed up so I'm trying to root some cuts of that one. I will try to reveg as well. She is 100% fully seeded, I've never tried to reveg a seeded plant.
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Carraxe

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There all on 60 days

I've had those seeds for a long time. They were not in a breeder pack just in a tiny vile with a tag attached. . I've been growing mostly Sativa or Haze for the last 3 years. I got tired of the same chemotypes. Today people think the quality we talk about from 1970 was just nostalgic which is so not true.. Those old lines were unpolluted. Finding really good plants happened more often back then. We don't find this kind of quality very often anymore. It's all been polluted with other people's attempts to make something good.


The Malawi x Grinspoon has a sharp floral scent.. The flavor is terpene rich. I can't say what the flavor is. This is one of the other siblings. The pheno I pollinated I didn't have her backed up so I'm trying to root some cuts of that one. I will try to reveg as well. She is 100% fully seeded, I've never tried to reveg a seeded plant.

Nice plant.
Sometimes the smells and flavors are difficult to define, but there are some guides out there. I find the smoking experience very dependent on the flavor and smell.

What cross did you make with the Malawi x Greenspoon?
Do you want to swap seeds?

Have a nice day
 

Carraxe

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Hi
All of these plants, but one, come from the feminised Thai Angola x Jack Herer seeds I made. The test grow proved they are productive and the dried buds smell like citric and solvent. I've just put all them in the flowering tent, but I believe they'll grow too much this time, they are about 25 cm tall and show quite a good branching, they are around 7 knots tall.

I plan to harvest in 10 weeks. And I love the idea of starting the summer with a big bag of this shit.

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Sweet smokes
 

Carraxe

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This is the picture of the same tent, exactly one month later. The Thai Angola Jack Herer did't grow as much as expected, maybe because of the cold in the first days of flowering. But they nicely filled the space.

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Also, the pollination I performed in several plants with the pollen of four different Thai Angola Mextiza males appears to be working. These plants are a Black Domina, a Jack Herer and the selected specimen of TAM for F2. I'll take some pictures.

Sweet smokes
 

exoticrobotic

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This is the picture of the same tent, exactly one month later. The Thai Angola Jack Herer did't grow as much as expected, maybe because of the cold in the first days of flowering. But they nicely filled the space.

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Also, the pollination I performed in several plants with the pollen of four different Thai Angola Mextiza males appears to be working. These plants are a Black Domina, a Jack Herer and the selected specimen of TAM for F2. I'll take some pictures.

Sweet smokes

Wow, you've really maxxed it out in there

Love the sound of the TAM and JH/TAM
 

Carraxe

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Hi. This is the same tent filled with Thai Angola x Jack Herer, at 8 weeks. There is quite a lot of variation between the plants, but most of them look resinous and nice, and there are some plants that look really productive, shiny and full of compact hard buds. I'll keep a couple of them I like a lot.

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I'll harvest at 10 weeks. Now I'm feeding some stronger PK supplement, but since some sativas are picky I hope they'll take it well.

These are some of the specimens I like

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Last week I smoked some of this weed from the run test, cured for 4 and a half months, and I got unexpectedly high. You know, sativas usually need a long curing time. I always thought that a two months cure was the perfect point to enjoy the high and also the flavor and aromas, but now I believe some plants can need more.

I always felt that weed cured over 5 or 6 months would lose quite lot of aroma, and the high would be worse, sleepier every day after 6 months, but maybe I have to rethink that.

Sweet smokes
 

Carraxe

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These are the first seeds from the Jack impregnated with Thai Angola Mextiza males. They are as big as indica seeds, and this is one of the clearest signals of the indica heritage in the Jack. The very big size of Jack's trichomes is other of these characteristics that are easy to spot.

The seeds made with the Black Domina are already in the fridge, and the TAM F2 is going to be harvested soon.

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It is great that in the hybrid between the Jack and the Thai Angola you can find all these characteristics mixed, so to choose the preferred individuals. I really want to see how this Jack crosses with the TAM males, since the Mextiza gives nice strong flavors in the flowers of its offspring, and a lot of growing energy.

Sweet smokes
 

Carraxe

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Harvest time is coming for these Jack Herer Thai Angola ladies, as they are now at 9 and 1/2 weeks. Most of the plants have hard shiny buds and I've chosen some of the more productive ones with the best bud shape. Some aren't that good, they have less bud or the flower looks fluffier, but in average this run from seed has been very successful in spite of spider mites. I made all of it in a 1,2 x 1,2 meters tent with 600W COBs.

About a couple of weeks ago the stems of the taller plants started collapsing, and it would take a lot of effort to tie and to fix every plant, so I didn't care much. You can see the mess in the pictures of the tent. That's some of the shit I hate sativas for. Taskenti or Black Domina would never do that.

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I'm uploading some more pics.
 
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Carraxe

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Some more pics.

This is a thin slender one, about 80 cm tall, not very productive, that would thank some weeks more.

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These are the two plants I chose to keep for a while between the 22 females. They are productive and squat with hard shiny buds. I chose them because I want to pick one that looks similar in production and bud shape as the JH.

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I put the 2l bottle in the back to make a kind of scale. Sweet smokes
 
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Carraxe

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Less than two weeks after harvesting these two plants in the last pic (Thai Angola Jack Herer), one of them has started vegging again. I'm used to wait about a month for any plant to start vegging again. So that's a real new record for me, and maybe a measure of how energetic and adaptable these plants are.

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Sweet smokes
 

Carraxe

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That's why sativas (the real ones) are a pain in the ass. They grow savagely and they need a lot of work to keep them under control. Otherwise, they collapse and form crazy bushes. It gets worse in summer months, with the lights power limited, and the constant need for watering.

This one, obviously, grew too much, and produced little. But it still is the best smoke.

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Cheers
 

Carraxe

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I find the procedure boring. Chemicals, isolating plants, waiting long times, repeating. The solution degrades and must be done again, and the atomizer occupies a place in my fridge. The measure of silver nitrate I use (0,1g) is difficult to measure in an standard scale, and the measurement is subject of great deviation. But the worst of it is that, depending on the plant, is that you might have to pick the male flowers individually and wait for them to open, before pollinating.

There is nothing like normal sexual reproduction. As I said, I hate STS, but the results are very practical.
 
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