bobblehead overtakes

[redbudduckfoot]

didnt realize y'all were talking about that brown-grey goo in the filter of our pumps. I've had that shit in my pumps since i created the blumat-muti-rez-waterfall-type-thingy. I change and clean the 35 gallon Brute trash can every refill, along with a quick rinse of the pump and filter. keep in mind this is the organic, hygrozyme/sm-90 only grow. in the chem nutes/clear rez grow, i dont see it.

just my observations.

RbDf

 

[Mister_D]

Red - Me and bob are full on chem atm. I've used nothing but GH micro, bloom, and drip clean, got slime in 3 days. City water also, so I don't see any bacteria coming from there. Might go ahead and add some peroxide when I change the res.

 

[silver hawaiian]

I'm interested in this whole blumat-line-cloggage topic, .. I'm using all of the stock tubing (3/8", I reckon), and last time was just fine. But the only additive I was using was Ful-Power.

This time 'round, I'll be adding SM-90 and ProTeKt. I'm a little curious about the ProTeKt, specificaly, but I'm figuring that since everything's kept moving (a la a waterfall setup similar to what I imagine RBDF is desribing), I ought to be all right.. ?

I'm eagerly awaiting y'alls continued trials.

 

[redbudduckfoot]

yeah, on the chem fert side of the grow i feed chem nutes, hygrozyme, sm-90, clear rez, kool bloom when needed. so yeah, i don't know. ive always felt general hydro to be messy as fuck, that stains shit like no other, and seems to be thick as shit.

RbDf

 

[silver hawaiian]

RBDF, what do you do on the chem-side with your nutes/rez to help combat any settling-tendencies?

So far, I've run my main rez pump into the feed rez 24/7. Lately I've been considering putting it on a timer, just 5 minutes a day, to provide a top-off.

Then I had the thought that if I'm putting additives in (Ful-Power, SM-90, and especially the ProTeKt), I oughtta just keep it cycling 24/7.

Then I wondered about the effectiveness of some airstones in each rez to keep things nicely stirred up between the daily rez-topoffs, ..

Then I felt like, if I'm wondering about that, I oughtta just keep the pump going 24/7.

Whaddare your thoughts? Aside from "You think too much."

 

[silver hawaiian]

bobbles, also, meant to mention.. The structure of those HB buds looks real familiar. Mine always had that sort of late-flower-re-flower shape I'd get..

What's funny is that when I ran it DWC, she ended up looking very beastery/no-personality-shaped..

But mine were always dense as turds. How're yours?

Somehow, you've ended up with a shape that looks to me like she's grown organically, via coco and bottled nutes..

I think this is a good thing.

 

[Mister_D]

Silver - I've always had my pump circulating 24/7 to keep things mixed and oxygen high. I know guys that don't, but they just run basic grow & bloom. With additives I think it's a good idea to keep it running. Airstones don't play well with alot of nutes, and don't work nearly as well as a waterfall.

 

[silver hawaiian]

Dumb-but-serious question. My pump into the feed-rez (and also the drain from the feed into the main-rez) is below the surface, for noise's sake.

In my own pigeon brain, this makes zero [significant] difference in terms of surface agitation and resulting o2 .. Though now that I type it.. ?

Should I live with the splash? Would prefer not to, but is the difference that significant? And less in terms of dissolved o2, and more in the name of dissolved shit-in-the-water, .. ?

 

[Mister_D]

As long as the water is falling from your feed res to you main res you are adding DO, but i'm not sure how much difference there would be by allowing it to splash. You'd need a DO meter for that. My guess is not a significant amount for your style of grow. Won't effect how well things are mixed, that's more to do with your pump's gph rating.

 

[bobblehead]

mister. You use a pump? on the dump back in to the reservoir could you put a coffer filter to get some of the crap
On mine the I have a small HF. pump come on for 15mi a day that seam to keep the air at bay

this time of year in the air it may be Bactria,yeast make beer by have the coffer filter at the end see which filter gets plug first that way you can see if it's your pots are in the tank are try some hydrogen peroxide

:yay: gurnt you're actually making complete sense for once. My dad used to brew beer, and I remember it had to sit in the dark for a few weeks... Time to filter and sterilize...

bobbles, also, meant to mention.. The structure of those HB buds looks real familiar. Mine always had that sort of late-flower-re-flower shape I'd get..

What's funny is that when I ran it DWC, she ended up looking very beastery/no-personality-shaped..

But mine were always dense as turds. How're yours?

Somehow, you've ended up with a shape that looks to me like she's grown organically, via coco and bottled nutes..

I think this is a good thing.

As it dries it looks and smells better. The buds are pretty dense... but they could be more swole and full of trichomes if I had grown it right. I'm just a tough critic, cause only the best gets the best prices. I have to stand out from everyone else... and they're out there... Lots of people trying to grow weed out here. Thanks for the compliments.

 

[Hazed]

Well I just started using drip clean about a month ago.
I mix about two 5 gallon buckets of nutes every 2 days. One bucket normally sits 1/2 to 3/4 full overnight, and I have noticed a little brown sediment at the bottom of my buckets I never noticed before.

Only other thing that has changed is we moved and the tap water here is 5.9ph, the old place was like 7.2 . So I am using a lot of ph up now + drip clean.

Never touched it to see if it was slimy, normally just spray it clean with a hose and move on. Might be some of my nute minerals precipitating out? from the ph up and/or drip clean?

 

[AOD2012]

Yea, I definitely had some gunkiness from the SM-90. During the winter rez always had a top on it, so no light was in there. I also kept the temp at 70 degrees. As soon as I stopped adding the SM-90 I did not have this issue any more.

I tried mixing it with water, and then adding that into my rez, and that did not help. I really just think that it was reacting with something else I put in there. I mix protekt in first, than micro, bloom, ph down, and then dripclean. I also just started using bloomblastic this last run, and this is what I had in the rez.

Definitely think that the SM-90 was causing the bloomblastic to act wacky. I am using MOAB the last couple weeks, without the Sm-90, and I have nothing in the rez.

I just loaded up another side of my stadium, so I will be making a rez with the bloombastic in two weeks or so. I am not going to add the SM-90, and I will see what happens.

Keep it green.



aod

 

[greenmatter]

sm 90 is mostly canola oil isn't it? is there some chemical that makes it congeal like they do with the solids in water purification plants? oil and water don't want to mix ......... a 3 mm line is probably a bad place for them to "unmix"

 

[Mister_D]

greenmatter - it's coriander oil, water, and something else that keeps it in suspension. I have a grow bro running it through 300 blumats with no problem. He doesn't use anything in the res but GH micro and bloom though. I didn't have any build up in my drippers while using it either, so I guess it just depends on what your mixing together.

 

[bobblehead]

No... It's mostly canola oil, and a little bit of coriander oil, and some solvent to suspend it...

 

[redbudduckfoot]

Pump on 24/7.

But on a real note:

That general hydro shit is crazy thick. For real. You guys should really check out the Cornucopia line. Grow, Bloom and Formula X. Also Energy, which is an additive, which is plant acids, those help in the uptake of nutrients and keeping the ph stable. These nutes are all crystal clear, and manufactured in Williston, Vt. Green Thumb Gardening and Hydroponics is the manufacturer of them. Same price point as GH.

http://www.gtghydroponics.com/


Peace, and as Tom morello says, "fuck mitt Romney!"

Rbdf

 

[megayields]

i love M.O.A.B....................

 

[DHF]

Canola oil with a lil Coriander oil ?.......First I ever heard......I know this.....

I always added my shit in increments and let it mix and get cohesive ....and then....

I added my SM-90 last cuz it wasn`t a "Chem" and then let the shit circulate for awhile with the powerheads before it was introduced to the rez`s .......thus.....

Never any cloudiness....but....that`s just what I`ve done for many yrs....

Peace....DHF........

 

[Mister_D]

No... It's mostly canola oil, and a little bit of coriander oil, and some solvent to suspend it...

I stand corrected .
Ingredients:
1% coriander oil
94% sulphonated canola oil solution
5% triethanolamine

Freds - Let me get this straight. You added the required amount of sm-90 in smaller increments to keep it from clouding?

 

[DHF]

I stand corrected .
Ingredients:
1% coriander oil
94% sulphonated canola oil solution
5% triethanolamine

Freds - Let me get this straight. You added the required amount of sm-90 in smaller increments to keep it from clouding?

No....5 ml per gal religiously for many yrs....Just never knew the ingredients other than coriander oil in "suspension"........but....

I never worried bout it cuz the shit works......period....

I added it at the end of my mixin cuz it`s pertiinent to understand that chem`s need ta mix and everything after that needs to mix with what`s already been acclimated together..........and....

I stand by SM-90 100% for all the shit it did for my setups kinda sorta" behind the lines" but wouldn`t have wanted ta grow without it.......why ?....

Cuz I was told to use it for root rot prevention and .....rootzone critter prevention only came to light once I was in full coco production......but.....

I`d never grow without it even if I went viral tomorrow and set up mega flip rooms cuz it`s that much of a good thingy in the long run......bet on it.....

Peace....DHF........