darthvapor
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ive already spent the money on cheese, and blueberry cheese. Ill report back with my results. I hope its better.
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Blue Cheese from Big Buddha what a load of utter crap!
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MarijuanaMesiah said:
Confirmed. A plant grown from seed and flowered while not yet mature (preflowers) will stretch more than a clone taken from a mature plant. It will also produce less potent resin. What you do when you root a clone and veg it for a while is adding veg time to the original seed plant, since any clone has the same chronological age as the mother plant.
The stretch is dependent on factors such as light hours (etiolation), but also hormones within the plant. The older the plant, the less the stretch, and the higher the capacity to produce THC.
that's too bad mampi, but thanks for the heads up..
Cheese (UK cut) is reported to be a select pheno from 1988 Sensi Seeds Skunk #1, kinda like a 'sport' pheno that was different from the rest of the population..
As far as your theories BH, I'm not sure i would lean the same way.. 1stly, the Cheese cut is MUCH, much more sativa in structure and leaf shape than Sam's Skunk #1, or any of the other 'skunks' i've run.. The buds on Cheese are also pointier, with smaller calyx/pistils and smaller trichomes than the other skunks i've grown.. And also, the Cheese was the only one that actualy smelled like a skunk, like a 'skunk strain' should..
Maybe the flavor is more dominated by afghani, but certainly not the rest of the plant.. I have grown Deep Chunk, Petrolia Headstash, Afghan Dream, all Afghan IBLs and the Cheese has nothing in common with either.. The Skunk #1 I've grown from Sam definately had more in common with the Afghans..
It's impossible to say without a time machine and without knowing the whole story or being there.
As far as 'The shit' having some old skool skunk funk, I've heard the opposite, that it's just another 'bunk skunk' (for flavor/smell) compared to what most skunk lovers are looking for. There may be a pheno with some funk, but they're certainly not common..
If 'the shit' was the old skunk we wanted shanti wouldn't have plans to release an old skunk (real skunk) line soon, as it would be redundant. I look forward to shanti's release, but i won't hold my breath. 10 times bitten and u get pretty sinicle, altho my love for skunk blinds me to the past and I can't help myself from trying the next 'promised skunk'.
Regardless, that's too bad BB's cheese and cheese crosses aren't delivering, another one to add to the list of 'bunk skunks'.
Cheese (UK cut) is reported to be a select pheno from 1988 Sensi Seeds Skunk #1, kinda like a 'sport' pheno that was different from the rest of the population..
As far as your theories BH, I'm not sure i would lean the same way.. 1stly, the Cheese cut is MUCH, much more sativa in structure and leaf shape than Sam's Skunk #1, or any of the other 'skunks' i've run.. The buds on Cheese are also pointier, with smaller calyx/pistils and smaller trichomes than the other skunks i've grown.. And also, the Cheese was the only one that actualy smelled like a skunk, like a 'skunk strain' should..
Maybe the flavor is more dominated by afghani, but certainly not the rest of the plant.. I have grown Deep Chunk, Petrolia Headstash, Afghan Dream, all Afghan IBLs and the Cheese has nothing in common with either.. The Skunk #1 I've grown from Sam definately had more in common with the Afghans..
It's impossible to say without a time machine and without knowing the whole story or being there.
As far as 'The shit' having some old skool skunk funk, I've heard the opposite, that it's just another 'bunk skunk' (for flavor/smell) compared to what most skunk lovers are looking for. There may be a pheno with some funk, but they're certainly not common..
If 'the shit' was the old skunk we wanted shanti wouldn't have plans to release an old skunk (real skunk) line soon, as it would be redundant. I look forward to shanti's release, but i won't hold my breath. 10 times bitten and u get pretty sinicle, altho my love for skunk blinds me to the past and I can't help myself from trying the next 'promised skunk'.
Regardless, that's too bad BB's cheese and cheese crosses aren't delivering, another one to add to the list of 'bunk skunks'.
JBP
Member
Did anyone else think we would see smoke reports like this when these were first posted on seedbay??? I sure did...
Im so sorry it had to be you Mampi to take this one for the team bro...
If it helps at all I think this is one of the best smoke reports ever despite its negative nature...
Next time stick with the Diesel for sure...
P E A C E/ J B P
Im so sorry it had to be you Mampi to take this one for the team bro...
If it helps at all I think this is one of the best smoke reports ever despite its negative nature...
Next time stick with the Diesel for sure...
P E A C E/ J B P
G
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JBP said:
well, while I agree that SD is a bomb variety (really cant call it a strain..) I will say this:
the vast majority of growers seem to just go with whatever is hyped.. the flavor of the moment.. but how did these hyped strains/crosses/hybrids/clones/etc come to be? someone at some point had to try something different, something new.
not saying go against the grain, but, there are plenty of great strains out there.. some known but forgotten, others yet to be discovered
my favorite example is blackberry
blackberry was at one point just somablaze's bagseed. think about all the bagseed youve thrown out :wink:
also, cheese.. just a lucky pheno of (what is today, currently) an unhyped variety.. I dont know a single person running sensi skunk.. yet thats where cheese came from, and a lot of people like cheese.
sorry for the rant.. just saying.. why not be adventurous and try somethign different..
Well put Lorax..
Getting ready to throw down 250 beans myself!Thats the only way to find new"special" plants is to search for them.....They are there waiting to be discovered.....
Take care......................CC
Getting ready to throw down 250 beans myself!Thats the only way to find new"special" plants is to search for them.....They are there waiting to be discovered.....
Take care......................CC
G
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You got it...
2.5 oz for a piss-pot poly-hybrid isn't all that bad... not that long ago people were happy smoking sinsemilia,,, these days even with history (a bullshit story) and complex lineage (fancy names) we still aren't happy,,, may-be we are all turning into pot-snobs 
sorry to hear the Blue Cheese was a flop,,, my buddy made several crosses with BBCheese male and the results were each unique (if small)... better luck next time
dLeaf
sorry to hear the Blue Cheese was a flop,,, my buddy made several crosses with BBCheese male and the results were each unique (if small)... better luck next time
dLeaf
Hella Fella
Member
So sad that a company takes a worthy plant, makes a bunch of "crossed" seeds and try to capatialize on a good name.... Tsk, tsk, tsk....
I'm glad we have the actual Cheese floatin' round 'ere!
I'm glad we have the actual Cheese floatin' round 'ere!
G
Guest
i have to disagree totally. i had 2 phenos from one pack of blue cheese. one more blueberry and one more skunky which i would guess to be the cheese. the cheesey girl yielded about twice as much as my blueberry one. but to be honest, i plan on keeping moms of both. already run ning them for the 2nd time. great high and stinks like a cat dropped dead in my jar. some of my friends keep asking for it. maybe you just had shit luck buddy. i would recommend this to anybody willing to roll the dice on it. but then again, w/out living in the dam or having a med card, you're constantly rolling the dice in this biz anyway.
Joe A. Grower
Active member
DocLeaf said:not that long ago people were happy smoking sinsemilia,,, these days even with history (a bullshit story) and complex lineage (fancy names) we still aren't happy,,, may-be we are all turning into pot-snobs
Preach brother!
-- WARNING: Rant alert!
I spent last year growing commercially in SoCal, which IMO is the Pot Snob Capital of the World. I swear there was some new bullshit "flavor of the day" out every week, but none of it was any fucking different from the weed that had been around the week before! It was just another mish mash hybrid put together by some hack closet breeder. The only thing new was the cool new name. I swear, if these clowns put half the effort into actual breeding and growing that they put into the name, all the best pot in the world would come out of SoCal.
I'll give you an example. I had about a half dozen strains I was growing for the med clubs. One was a fantastic AK-47 cut that had been floating around the area for a while. This beautiful lady made great smoking, great looking, RIDICULOUSLY STINKY weed (and finished at 53 days like clockwork). I also had a couple phenos of "Afghani Bullrider" -- or what we passed off as AB. They were actually a couple of half mutant plants grown from seed that came out of a hermie ridden AB growroom. Basically Afghani Bullrider S1's.
IMO, the AK-47 was by far the superior weed. Guess which one everyone would line up to buy? Yeah, the AB. In San Diego, this strain has an almost legendary reputation, and our spin off was close enough. We actually had a bit of trouble moving the AK, sometimes. People would look it over, take a sniff, and go "Oh, its that AK that's been going around. Damn nicely grown, though. What else ya got?"
Seriously, the hype factor has gotten out of control in the weed world. If you have a growroom full of the old school standbys -- Skunk #1, NL #5, an Afghani or two, Blueberry, Haze, etc -- you've got 80% of all the genetics that the big seed companys have. There really isn't much new under the sun (or under the HPS growlight)
-- End of Rant. You may now resume your previous thread.
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Time2Unite said:
....quite equitable....imo....
The SK1/B5 outyields it 2.75:1,but the MSS has a nice body to the smoke....
ImVho,TrueSkunk is HEAVILY-Skunked,and when it reeks, tearing-ass through walls it's old school skunk.
....I like the old school skunks best of all. :smile:
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G
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[WRAP=""]I've grown a few different Skunk x Afghan crosses and to me, Cheese is far more likely to be a Skunk x Afghan than a pure Skunk, the Afghan adds a lot of stink to the Skunk, I have grown out both Shiva Shanti and Shiva Shanti II from Sensi Seeds and they are both pretty unstable and varied, both contain an Afghan that Sensi call Garlic Bud due to its smell and taste. I reckon Cheese also contains this same Afghan, so I am convinced that Cheese originated with Sensi Seeds stock but am also sure that it isn't a pheno of Skunk #1[/WRAP]
Hello All,
Just to clear up some confusion, before we all start getting confused.
Cheese is a Skunk '1 selection from Seedbank stocks collected at the breeders shop in AMS in 89. Some seeds where planted to the ground by the guys who fetched them. The Cheese Brothers innit, roflmao
The resulting plants where cloned and have been maintained by the holders and finders of the Cheese cut since that time. The origional Cheese mother plant is still alive and being grown to this day exactly where she was found! just down the road from Haz manner.
So, there is a referance for this strain and there can be NO doubts - as the origional is still alive and well.
The Exodus cutting came from this mother and all the old legends of the Cheese in the UK come from this one plant. This is a more Sat dom high, but with Afghani style buds. A great but also lucky selection. She will stretch a lot, for a 'Dutch' Skunk, from rooted clone to 0.5m plant giving around a ounce in a SOG in 10/11 weeks. So a slightly different profile to the more Afghani dominant Skunks of today, i would suggest this is also not the grow profile of a Skunk 1 x Afghani either and if you STS reverse sex the clone you can see exactly what she is. Its a selection of a IBL Skunk. Not a cross.
Bottom line is i have seen many, many different Cheese plants over the last couple of years, they are cropping up everywhere. There are also quite a few hybrids made with this strain and many Cheese cuts i have seen derive from these lines. Same with any prized genetic that becomes a legend.
The plant has became a must have herb in the UK and every dealer and their uncle is selling a different variety of Cheese. But there is a origional mother, a referance and much in depth totally accurate documentation and pictures have been left by the origional cultivators and finders. So you just need to search in the right places and you can find the referances for this strain, its all there. It is Sk1. Nothing more, rest is hype and speculation.
Bests to all, enjoy her!
Queijo
Hello All,
Just to clear up some confusion, before we all start getting confused.
Cheese is a Skunk '1 selection from Seedbank stocks collected at the breeders shop in AMS in 89. Some seeds where planted to the ground by the guys who fetched them. The Cheese Brothers innit, roflmao
The resulting plants where cloned and have been maintained by the holders and finders of the Cheese cut since that time. The origional Cheese mother plant is still alive and being grown to this day exactly where she was found! just down the road from Haz manner.
So, there is a referance for this strain and there can be NO doubts - as the origional is still alive and well.
The Exodus cutting came from this mother and all the old legends of the Cheese in the UK come from this one plant. This is a more Sat dom high, but with Afghani style buds. A great but also lucky selection. She will stretch a lot, for a 'Dutch' Skunk, from rooted clone to 0.5m plant giving around a ounce in a SOG in 10/11 weeks. So a slightly different profile to the more Afghani dominant Skunks of today, i would suggest this is also not the grow profile of a Skunk 1 x Afghani either and if you STS reverse sex the clone you can see exactly what she is. Its a selection of a IBL Skunk. Not a cross.
Bottom line is i have seen many, many different Cheese plants over the last couple of years, they are cropping up everywhere. There are also quite a few hybrids made with this strain and many Cheese cuts i have seen derive from these lines. Same with any prized genetic that becomes a legend.
The plant has became a must have herb in the UK and every dealer and their uncle is selling a different variety of Cheese. But there is a origional mother, a referance and much in depth totally accurate documentation and pictures have been left by the origional cultivators and finders. So you just need to search in the right places and you can find the referances for this strain, its all there. It is Sk1. Nothing more, rest is hype and speculation.
Bests to all, enjoy her!
Queijo
