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Blue Cheese from Big Buddha what a load of utter crap!

Mampi

Member
Hello all.... this will be short but not sweet.

I grew out some Blue Cheese from Big Biddha seeds, even though I had heard a few dodgy comments thrown around when Big Buddha name was mentioned, I thought I'd still give them a try.

I had 6 girls from the 11 seeds provided, which was a good m/f ratio.
They grew quite well in veg and were grown for 4 weeks before preflowers showed themselves. Up to that point they were in grown under floro's....

6 girls-














They were then flipped to bloom and proceeded to stretch up until week 5 bloom, at this stage they looked like they had only been flowering for 21 days!!! I was pissed to say the least.

There were another 2 that were still stretching and looked like they would never bloom, they wered discarded at this point. (2nd pic has a skywalker which turned out nice in the pic easily distinguished by its size of bud, the skywalker went into bloom at the same time as the Blue Cheese BTW)







One of them turned out'so-so' but ended up taking 10+ weeks, the others went 12 weeks, still were not finished and they were complete and utter BULLSHIT!

The one that was OK was really nothing I would waste my time with again,



yield was not great for the size of the plant either, was around 5ft and gave up just under 2.5 oz.

Anyway I guess you get were I am going with this right....
It's pants IMHO and is nothing like it's description, I have grown a few strains in my time- at least 15.... and this was by far the absolute worst of them all...

I would deter anybody from purchasing this strain as it is straight BUNK, DITCHWEED, BEASTERS and all the other terrible names we associate with straight up BULLSHIT.


peace!
 
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That bad huh?

How was the potency? I gather that it wasn't anything to write home about. How could the strain be that bad if it's parents are Cheese and Blueberry? :fsu:
 

Mampi

Member
How could the strain be that bad if it's parents are Cheese and Blueberry?

That is just what I was wondering man, I could've sworn these plants were outdoor plants or something by the way they stretched and bloom time.

My seeds came in breeder packs sealed and match all the other packs of Big Buddha seeds I have seen. I have contacted Big Buddha to no avail.

There is another guy growing them out now here:

http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=34970

I hope he gets better results than me, although my mind is definately made up... if you can't even get a decent smoke from 6 females then something is seriously wrong IMO.


redrider I wish more folks would... I hope I save someone the bother, I have no weed right now except from this SHIT! and everytime I spark up I am utterly dissapointed.

Good thing is I got some NL x hindu kush & Sour diesel 2.5 clones vegging right now. Bad thing is they won't be ready until xmas....

I really kick myself to think I could be blazing some good sour deez 2.5 right now!!!


peace!

Sour Diesel 2.5







Sour D bubble:

 
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G

Guest

Sucks too here that it was complete shit, as I heard from a few others that Big Budda seeds weren't worth the time. Another reason I never do a garden full of untested plants if I can avoid it and run a few clones of trusted so atleast you have something to smoke.

Good Luck with the Sour deez & NL kush.... Stay safe.
 

GOT_BUD?

Weed is a gateway to gardening
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Veteran
That's really disappointing to hear.Bleu Cheese was one strain that had definitely caught my eye.

Guess I'll have to scratch that one off the "must have" list.

Sucks you basically wasted all that time with them. Live and learn I guess.
 

Mampi

Member
Med grade purps, your right man I had a few sourD's and that skywalker going at the same time but that has since run out.... I thought that a good cure may bring something out in this crap but alas I was mistaken...

Got_bud you are just the type of person I am trying to reach out to here... I don't think that i got a dud pack, and I really should have had something worth smoking at least from 6 females right?

At least you won't be dissapointed as I was mate! I am waiting to see what the other grower that is trying it out thinks of it... I posted his thread above. I have already had someone else that grew it out tell me it was SHIT too!
 
G

Guest

Thanks for testing that for everyone. I personally stick to the tried and true...but there would be none without people like you, so THANK YOU.
 

SmokeyPufmaster

Active member
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Thank you Mampi, unfortunately now every report can be a good one. The fact that you reported and warned us speaks a lot for your character. I for one will be very leery when I hear that name.
 
G

Guest

Hey mampi! Just a cupple ?'s sorry gotts play the devil's advocate on this one.

The plats were from seeds and flowered at the age of 4 weeks?
Younger, less mature plants stretch alot more.

Seccondly, you say that at 5 weeks they looks like they had only been blooming for 21 days. Well 5 weeks is only 28 days, so your plants looks 7 days behind, i dont thinks thats even to noticable especily on a sativa.
Third a less mature plant will not only stretch more then a mature one when put in to flower, it will take longer for buds to begin to form.

Lastly ~ with the cheese being a skunk derivitive, a select pheno of skunk.
Which i belive would be primarily sative dom, then the longer flowering period could be explained there.

Just my 2cents.
 
C

Cibin

hey Mesiah, don´t want to argue with you, but Mampi wrote those plants showed pre-flowers before being flowered.. so i guess they were mature enough, or not?

I agree that first week or two of 12/12 is only about stretching.
C.
 
G

Guest

I used the id of big_buddha on overgrow, it's been my nickname since I was a teenager. In the last couple of months of overgrow's existence, I must have got a dozen pms from folks thinking I was the same big buddha who released the Cheese. One was asking when I was going to release any new strains but all the rest were complaining that their Cheese beans were rubbish and that they hadn;t got anything like they expected. One guy was convinced they were actually some kind of Northern Lights substituted for the real thing. A few others were furious that the plants weren't as they expected. They had bought Cheese thinking it was going to be just like the Skunk #1 of the 80s and were not happy that it wasn't at all like the Skunk they grew then.

It was due to this that I didn't use the big_buddha id here at icmag. A lot of folks seemed to have it in for me in the last days of OG, convinced I was the same big_buddha, beign in the UK and all...

I have bought and smoked the Cheese from Homegrown Fantaseeds in the Dam and I too was quite impressed with the quality, but I am sure it wasn't a type of Skunk, in the last few months I have harvested both the Sam The Skunkman Skunk #1 from Gypsy, F2s of 1989 SSSC Skunk #1 and a cut of Sensi Seeds Skunk #1 from a friend and all of them were very similar, the SSSC one being the best imho, although not much to choose between the Sam one and the SSSC one, almost identical. The Sensi one was a bit more indica, obviously they have inbred it favouring the shorter, faster phenos which has bumped up the proportion of Afghani genes.

I've grown a few different Skunk x Afghan crosses and to me, Cheese is far more likely to be a Skunk x Afghan than a pure Skunk, the Afghan adds a lot of stink to the Skunk, I have grown out both Shiva Shanti and Shiva Shanti II from Sensi Seeds and they are both pretty unstable and varied, both contain an Afghan that Sensi call Garlic Bud due to its smell and taste. I reckon Cheese also contains this same Afghan, so I am convinced that Cheese originated with Sensi Seeds stock but am also sure that it isn't a pheno of Skunk #1. I reckon if you grew out a few packs of Shiva Shanti II you would find 'Cheese' in their somewhere. I have a friend who grew the Cheese cut a while back, just before I grew all the Skunk #1 varieties and I can tell you for sure that his Cheese cut was not like any of my Skunks, but it did look and smell like it contained a fair amount of Afghani.

Anyways, that my 2 cents on Cheese, the original UK cut is good, but not spectacular, probably popular for the same reason the old school roadkill skunk is so fondly remembered in the US, because its stinky, potent weed that produces big, hard, sticky indica nuggets. My friend dropped the Cheese cut from his grow in favour of a Skunk #1 cut and a Grapefruitbowl cut I gave him.
 

ethereal

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MarijuanaMessiah said:
Seccondly, you say that at 5 weeks they looks like they had only been blooming for 21 days. Well 5 weeks is only 28 days, so your plants looks 7 days behind, i dont thinks thats even to noticable especily on a sativa.
5 x 7 = 35
 

Capt. Crip

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My thoughts exactly Ethereal...21 days is 3 weeks..35 days is 5 weeks,big difference!
Hard to explain a Blueberry hybrid stretching like this...i wonder if the seeds got mixed with a sativa-heavy strain before being packaged?

Thanks for the enlightning report Mampi................CC
 
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MarijuanaMesiah said:
Seccondly, you say that at 5 weeks they looks like they had only been blooming for 21 days. Well 5 weeks is only 28 days

umm.... 5 weeks is 35 days

MarijuanaMesiah said:
The plats were from seeds and flowered at the age of 4 weeks?
Younger, less mature plants stretch alot more.

that is also not true


:bat:
 
G

Guest

shit... there i go trying to do math again, sorry.

But frommy experience, and from what ive read. A yonger plant will stretch more in its first run, then its subsequent clone generations.
 

Lucky 7

Active member
I gonna have to jump in here and say . . . THANK YOU Mampi
for saving me over 200 $$$; I'm going to A-dam shortly to buy the sacred seed, guess I'll stick to the tried & true :violin:

I don't have access to any sour D, but my white widow by day & white rhino mixes with some shiva at night;

MJ releaves the stress caused by disappointing smoke reports & nagging relatives :bat:
 

GOT_BUD?

Weed is a gateway to gardening
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Lucky 7 said:
MJ releaves the stress caused by disappointing smoke reports & nagging relatives :bat:
Ah yes, stress. The confusion created when one's mind overrides the bodies basic desire to choke the living shit out of some asshole who desperately needs it.
 
G

Guest

For folks looking for stinky, skunky, 'cheese' type smokes, there are a few strains with Skunk and Afghani genes I can recommends, Mazar by Dutch Passion is an old standby of mine, its Skunk x Afghan. Both Shiva Shanti and Shiva Shanti II by Sensi Seeds contain Skunk and Afghani, I really like both strains, both are pretty variable but all the phenos are good and you can find some real keepers, Shiva Shanti II is really cheap and if you like indicas you'll find a nice selection in a pack. There is a pheno with curly pistils and really dark foliage that I rally liked and kept around for a while, it's also really short and squat. I grew Mr Nice's Shit last year and it's another classic Skunk x Afghan, if you're looking for oldscool stinky skunk, Shit will probably be what you're looking for.

Lucky 7, while in Amsterdam, try to pop into Homegrown Fantasy coffeeshop (same company as Homegrown Fantaseeds) and try their Cheese, it's the original UK Cheese clone and really good, but it;s more like northern Lights than Skunk #1, like I said, if I was a gambling man my money would be on it being a Skunk x Afghan of some kind.
 

Lucky 7

Active member
Hey B Hempire, thanks for the tip. And thanks again for adding your experience with all things BB. It was your encounters with disappointed BB seed people that convinced me to put my seed $$ elsewhere.

Sites like this with helpful people like all of you have made life richly satisfying once again . . .

Got Bud: Stress - The confusion created when one's mind overrides the bodies basic desire to choke the living shit out of some asshole who desperately needs it. You got that right! ha ha

Really looking forward to Europe, after the Holy City of Smoke, we're headed to Italy then London . . . :)
 
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