Blatent election fraud thread

[Microbeman]

Certainly, there are good and bad group homes. The solution is complex and likely calls for both group homes and standardized institutions. Standards must be federal.

I had friends with cerebral palsy who were non-verbal who spent many years of their lives [toddlers to young adults] locked into mental institutions because they were spastic and could not speak. Criminal. Bliss boards and a staff member with half a brain set them free.

 

[Zeez]

Sorry the poor unfortunates that I've known living in those group homes would strongly disagree (1 friend committed suicide)!

......... and until 6 yrs. ago I lived in a complex that rented apts. out to a group home for profit company.

One of those apts. was right above mine and I witnessed first-hand the horriffic emotional abuse those poor inmates suffered until the group was finanlly shut down and given the boot!

LOL@Group Homes, another idea originating from liberal elite institutions that turned out to be (in hindsight) another BAD IDEA!

First wife worked in a state mental hospital while in college in the 70s before I knew her. She lasted four months. The horrors and atrocities that she saw were unbelievable.

A close friend worked for Shriver. RNs now go to doctor visits and the hospital with special needs making sure that they get the same level of care as others. Prior to this oversight, special needs were deemed not worthy by some medical 'professionals' and allowed to die from very avoidable causes.

Seems to go with the trump music - 'only the chosen ones'.

In Europe only violent criminals go to jail long term. A fraction of the money we spend on incarceration goes to rehabbing offenders and helping them lead productive lives. Their results are much better for society than sending minor offenders to what amounts to criminal universities and dealing with more problems we created.

Your thoughts and methods are so dark ages.

 

[h.h.]

not really a liberal motif
problem is it was accepted by governments that were conservative, liberal ...
the other side gets all the blame and that is the problem
just encourages more extreme political views
and leaves us here, which is not a good place which you seem to have noticed

Another progressive idea bastardized by the so called right.

 

[Cannavore]

Unless we consider johnson, roosevelt, I cannot think of a bigger spender than reagan who buried this country in debt we will NEVER pay off. Talks like a libertarian and rules like a socialist.

The more in debt you are, the most socialister you are.

 

[h.h.]

The idea to close mental hospitals and place folks back into the community started in the early 1970's and was promulgated by avante guard, Liberal social scientists/psychiatrists of the day, around the same time that the idea of 'Unisex' took hold, another generally believed BAD IDEA, in hindsight of course!

...... I know this because I was there, read alla the books, knew some of the players (Dr. John Money), lived through it and remember it well!

I remember seeing Reagan when he was still governor. Nixon was there.
Mamie Eisenhower. Bob Hope.

 

[h.h.]

Trickle down socialism. Reindeer get the shrooms, you get the pee.

 

[Cannavore]

that's just capitalism lol.


reagan signified the beginning of the neoliberal capitalist era.

 

[Hammerhead]

Growing up in Cali we had state mental hospitals in 2 locations. 1 was about 5min from our home for the none violent, the other was about 10min for violent people. The violent side was on a lot of land. It had creeks with a lot of trees we rode our bikes to get high. I had to do community service for trespassing at the none violent side for kids.

 

[h.h.]

We’ve progressed from Star Wars to Space Force.

 

[h.h.]

Porter Wagoner
The Rubber Room

https://youtu.be/Q5eP2W3fLu4


Committed to Parkview

https://youtu.be/3FKs02ngHxY

 

[CosmicGiggle]

First wife worked in a state mental hospital while in college in the 70s before I knew her. She lasted four months. The horrors and atrocities that she saw were unbelievable.

A close friend worked for Shriver. RNs now go to doctor visits and the hospital with special needs making sure that they get the same level of care as others. Prior to this oversight, special needs were deemed not worthy by some medical 'professionals' and allowed to die from very avoidable causes.

Seems to go with the trump music - 'only the chosen ones'.

In Europe only violent criminals go to jail long term. A fraction of the money we spend on incarceration goes to rehabbing offenders and helping them lead productive lives. Their results are much better for society than sending minor offenders to what amounts to criminal universities and dealing with more problems we created.

Your thoughts and methods are so dark ages.

Yeah, I remember the state mental hospitals too, saw many patients who refused to wear any clothes or use a toilet, etc. and nothing could be done until the newer anti-psychotics helped make things better.

....... In fact, my ex (Masters in Counseling Psy) was the guy in my state who went around to alla the state hospitals and made the cut on who got out or had to stay.

.............. and I heard plenty of horror stories from him about the atrocities committed against patients by his fellow highly educated students when they were in training together.

Whether inside a mental institution or a group home, the problem will always be BS committed when no one is looking, by a trained individual or not highly trained.

As far as my ideas and methods being so "dark Age", sorry I'm not Woke enough for ya!

No, really, I am!

 

[eugenegreen]

you know it’s time to give up the ghost when
the not so illustrious
ny post

starts making complete sense

 

[Hammerhead]

You guys should read that. It puts turd in his place. The post has been a Turd supporter.

 

[NEW ENGLAND]

Yeah, I remember the state mental hospitals too, saw many patients who refused to wear any clothes or use a toilet, etc. and nothing could be done until the newer anti-psychotics helped make things better.

....... In fact, my ex (Masters in Counseling Psy) was the guy in my state who went around to alla the state hospitals and made the cut on who got out or had to stay.

.............. and I heard plenty of horror stories from him about the atrocities committed against patients by his fellow highly educated students when they were in training together.

Whether inside a mental institution or a group home, the problem will always be BS committed when no one is looking, by a trained individual or not highly trained.

As far as my ideas and methods being so "dark Age", sorry I'm not Woke enough for ya!

No, really, I am!

I lasted less than 1 shift at 1 of these private facilities.
I witnessed another nurse physically abuse a women in her 80's.
I grabbed the prick by the neck,and brought him to the administrative office,and gave the the choice,do you call the police or do I?
I testified in court on behalf of the patients family,as well as before the States medical licensing board to have his RN license revoked,which it was.
The shit that goes on behind closed doors in these facilities are inhumane.

 

[Zeez]

Yeah, I remember the state mental hospitals too, saw many patients who refused to wear any clothes or use a toilet, etc. and nothing could be done until the newer anti-psychotics helped make things better.

....... In fact, my ex (Masters in Counseling Psy) was the guy in my state who went around to alla the state hospitals and made the cut on who got out or had to stay.

.............. and I heard plenty of horror stories from him about the atrocities committed against patients by his fellow highly educated students when they were in training together.

Whether inside a mental institution or a group home, the problem will always be BS committed when no one is looking, by a trained individual or not highly trained.

As far as my ideas and methods being so "dark Age", sorry I'm not Woke enough for ya!

No, really, I am!

I went to the Museo del Prado in Madrid. They have a big collection of renaissance art. Mostly swiped from the Belgians and the Dutch. There are allot of works depicting dark ages scenes of prisons, poverty, strife, and the occasional village idiot.

It's really time we move past trump, the dark ages, state hospitals, mass imprisonment (children and babies included), obsolescent thinking, and take a good look at how other places are successfully dealing with these problems. Learning from knowledge acquired by others is not a bad thing.

My Ex worked at Ladd School 4 months.

 

[St. Phatty]

It's really time we move past trump, the dark ages, state hospitals, mass imprisonment (children and babies included), obsolescent thinking, and take a good look at how other places are successfully dealing with these problems. Learning from knowledge acquired by others is not a bad thing.

but that's not what we do in the US.

there is & was LOADS to learn about Covid19 before it got to the US en masse in March 2020.


on the other hand, China Taiwan etc. are very happy to learn our semiconductor manufacturing tech.

 

[CosmicGiggle]

If your talking about the new, Woke idea about shutting down prisons and institutions and sending criminals and mental patients out into the community where they'll be supervised by community-based social workers, well lol, good luck with that idea, cause that's all it is, a feel good idea not based in reality!

 

[White Beard]

Reagan shut down the mental institutions and turned the patients into the street, where they became a problem for the police, who weren’t and aren’t prepared for or interested in dealing with them...except as if they were criminals.

Worked out great, wouldn’t you say? I think your “woke” idea is cracked.

 

[eugenegreen]

shutting down prisons and institutions and sending criminals and mental patients out into the community

Reagan shut down the mental institutions and turned the patients into the street, where they became a problem for the police, who weren’t and aren’t prepared for or interested in dealing with them...

Worked out great, wouldn’t you say? I think your “woke” idea is cracked.

.... is this how we ended up with a president (lol) trump?

 

[minds_I]

I firmly believe that the election was fraudulent, and also have eyes to see the vast evidence. I asked one of the most conservative people I know in town, who is going to DC to protest the senators and congress critters recognizing this stolen election. I didn't want to go all the way there by myself. Nobody. None.

Nobody is talking about doing anything about this. America is giving in. I think this guy's deal is he lost his job last spring and was unemployed 2 months while he was looking for anther $200K/yr job, which he found. He doesn't want to rock the boat and ask for time off. He has the wife, kids, mortgage. His answer is use your guns... huh? On who, the local tee vee people?

When oboma won, every black in the area who could went in the church busses and drove to DC for their party. They has a bunch of people and trashed the Washington mall.

So it seems that nothing is going to be done, and America is finished as she was. I have no children, am healthy, and have enough money saved. Good luck to the rest of you as we enter this new phase of America, where corruption is the official way of doing business.

Gonna be an interesting ride, and I may sit it out somewhere else that at least is officially corrupt, and they make no bones about it.

Hello all,

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