Yeah man, no worries. I'd get around to it but it's low on the priorities. Now I have the cages up and I really doubt I'll fool with out outdoors this year again. We'll see. I'm already probably 2-3 weeks into flowering too.
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Big Clones.....and air layers.....
- Thread starter Budley Doright
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LOL.... I see the problem....
nevermind.......
nevermind.......
Here is my latest experiment....
2 different flavors of air layers....
The first.... rapid rooter twist ties and a plastic wrap....
The second.... 5x 20 oz bottle...and a 3 inch neopreme hockey puck....
The bottle is supported with a plastic clothes pin.... and a bamboo stick....
The rapid rooter plugs a little smaller.... at about 10 inches....
the larger cantainer..... most are over 12"
2 different flavors of air layers....
The first.... rapid rooter twist ties and a plastic wrap....
The second.... 5x 20 oz bottle...and a 3 inch neopreme hockey puck....
The bottle is supported with a plastic clothes pin.... and a bamboo stick....
The rapid rooter plugs a little smaller.... at about 10 inches....
the larger cantainer..... most are over 12"
https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=308471
I was visiting the yogurt cup challenge..... the guy doing the air layering is....
8ths n aces....
In this thread based on what I read and see in pic....
He tried 3 air layers..... one took.....
and it took about a month to root.....
Im going to suggest that the reason we will find for both issues....
is that he did not ring the plant.....removing bark and cambium.....
where the ring was the main goal in stem preparation.....
I hope I can convince him to do another....but this time carefully ring the branch first....
I was visiting the yogurt cup challenge..... the guy doing the air layering is....
8ths n aces....
In this thread based on what I read and see in pic....
He tried 3 air layers..... one took.....
and it took about a month to root.....
Im going to suggest that the reason we will find for both issues....
is that he did not ring the plant.....removing bark and cambium.....
where the ring was the main goal in stem preparation.....
I hope I can convince him to do another....but this time carefully ring the branch first....
i agree 100%
i did a really poor job of ringing the plant correctly. the problem i ran into was the branches breaking while i was cutting into them. the locations i chose were all where they were under tension from being tied down and i had to back off a little more than i wanted too with the scalpel. i won't be making that mistake again.
i think all 3 would have thrown roots if i had just waited a little longer and been a little more on point with keeping the rapid rooter wet the whole time.
one thing i didn't see was the cutting being stretched or leggy in any way but i'm not sure if it's the strain, the conditions,or the fact that i kinda fucked things up anyway, so i'm not sure if it proves a thing.
i also pruned her while she was still attached to mom and she is doing things growth wise that i haven't seen the strain do before. again that proves zero because of the fact that she's in a 6 oz. cup.
this won't be the last time i air layer and i'll be paying closer attention to what i'm doing. if i fucked most of the process up this time and still got some great results i'll be taking another clone or two this way
thats her right still attached to mom
and thats the biggest, healthiest and easiest clone that i have ever seen or taken.
pretty cool method IMHO ........ thanks IC!
Thanks for posting..... love it....
The experience here so far.....when the plant has been carefully ringed.... roots in 10 days more or less....
I kind of expect actually that the really large clones will generally be easier to work with....
My last batch at 10 inches or so could have probably been done as normal clones.....
but I need the practice......
The experience here so far.....when the plant has been carefully ringed.... roots in 10 days more or less....
I kind of expect actually that the really large clones will generally be easier to work with....
My last batch at 10 inches or so could have probably been done as normal clones.....
but I need the practice......
Here was my one attempt with the dirt method where I weighted the stem under the soil with a rock in a solo cup. You can see that roots were wanting to start up but I imagine that the soil was getting too dry at times. I'll try this method again but not with this run.
I've never tried air layering cannabis, but I want to mention a rooting media container that was shown in another thread but hasn't been mentioned here. The author cut the bottom off a ziplock bag, wrapped the prepared stem in sphagnum moss, then fit the cut bag around the moss wrapped stem and duck taped the bottom of the bag shut. The moss rooting mass is then easily accessed for watering or monitoring by simply opening the ziplock top.
Too bad they don’t make opaque ziplocks. I’ve used wraps made from garbage bags secured with twist ties, duct tape for the seam, and sphagnum moss. A small cut in the top to insert a syringe or watering can to water. I like the idea of being able to open the ziplock to monitor progress.
who dat…I bet if you treat that cut like a clone now it will go.
who dat…I bet if you treat that cut like a clone now it will go.
I chucked it up the hill. I don't have much room at all right now. But yes, I think it stood a good chance of rooting now if I had gone the distance.
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Its pretty easy to make an aluminum foil shroud...
I have a whole bunch of air layers coming..... some with a larger amount of medium....
and some just use rapids rooters..... I expect some root action soon.....
a minor experiment as well.......
Some of these air layers are at the bottom of the plant.....
I sort of expect these .... and especially those that are shaded... will take longer.....
I suspect that light is important to how fast an air layer will root......
I believe an air layer at the top of the plant will root better than those at the bottom...
Even though those are the ones I typically use for normal cloning....
All in the name of science.....
and some just use rapids rooters..... I expect some root action soon.....
a minor experiment as well.......
Some of these air layers are at the bottom of the plant.....
I sort of expect these .... and especially those that are shaded... will take longer.....
I suspect that light is important to how fast an air layer will root......
I believe an air layer at the top of the plant will root better than those at the bottom...
Even though those are the ones I typically use for normal cloning....
All in the name of science.....
Im in the process of working a flower room with 3 gavitas.....
The whole room is on a 10 week cycle.....
and each group of plants go in with an interval of 3 weeks and 2 days.....
I think I have 11 more days until group 2 goes in.....
this is the group with the air layers......
when those plants go in....the air layers get cut.......
But probably not until those plants go under gavita #2...
That should give them plenty of time to root.....
However ....anything that doesnt will be simply treated as a large clone....
a large clone that has been pretreated..... similar to my friend who dat is( post 232) ...clone in a post above this one....
The whole room is on a 10 week cycle.....
and each group of plants go in with an interval of 3 weeks and 2 days.....
I think I have 11 more days until group 2 goes in.....
this is the group with the air layers......
when those plants go in....the air layers get cut.......
But probably not until those plants go under gavita #2...
That should give them plenty of time to root.....
However ....anything that doesnt will be simply treated as a large clone....
a large clone that has been pretreated..... similar to my friend who dat is( post 232) ...clone in a post above this one....
Came across this:
http://www.speeches.blackdovenest.com/2014/11/the-professional-seminar-sample-speech.html
yeah, the smaller supple branches tricky to prep
without terminal damage, lol.
http://www.speeches.blackdovenest.com/2014/11/the-professional-seminar-sample-speech.html
yeah, the smaller supple branches tricky to prep
without terminal damage, lol.
Happy Birthday!!!!
Happy Birthday!!!!
This plant was born exactly one month ago today...
She was given to me by my friend mr crane... in one gallon of coco...
SHe was born in post 128...and was self sustaining in 142....
Transplanted into 5 gallons of promix.....
I can honestly say..... Ive never had a plant like this with a month of veg.....
SHe is about 36 inches tall.....and about 30 inches wide....
The wire backing is 48 inches tall....and cut 24 inches wide....
I use plastic clothes pins to secure the plant to the screen..... from the back of the screen...
She is going into the flowering room tonight......
Happy Birthday!!!!
This plant was born exactly one month ago today...
She was given to me by my friend mr crane... in one gallon of coco...
SHe was born in post 128...and was self sustaining in 142....
Transplanted into 5 gallons of promix.....
I can honestly say..... Ive never had a plant like this with a month of veg.....
SHe is about 36 inches tall.....and about 30 inches wide....
The wire backing is 48 inches tall....and cut 24 inches wide....
I use plastic clothes pins to secure the plant to the screen..... from the back of the screen...
She is going into the flowering room tonight......
41 days from when the air layering was started. And 31 days since it was cut from the mother plant.
Impressive y'all! I can't wait to have another go at this cloning method.
Im going to end this experiment.....
I dont see any rooting...... part of what I did.....was to ring the branch of the top layer...but I did not carefully remove the green cambium.....
I am in the process of cutting these away from mom ....unrooted.... I will manage them like large normal clones.....
They will be put in a bag..... until they root.....
I think we will find......that this process is better when using large pieces of the plant..... and careful removal of the green layer is necessary for success.......
So I have repotted something like 16 air layers.....
None rooted when I did not take care to remove the green cambium connection....
Obviously..... removing the air layer from mom.... will do that......
With no visable roots after something like 11 days....I think it proves the point....
that layer must be removed for success.....
The next experiment.... how long will these take to root??
and what percent root??
I expect with the preconditioning they should root pretty quickly....
None rooted when I did not take care to remove the green cambium connection....
Obviously..... removing the air layer from mom.... will do that......
With no visable roots after something like 11 days....I think it proves the point....
that layer must be removed for success.....
The next experiment.... how long will these take to root??
and what percent root??
I expect with the preconditioning they should root pretty quickly....
