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Biden Victory Thread!!

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NEW ENGLAND

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I am perfectly capable of expressing my opinions. I have never been on Twitter. Facebook is just an easy way to keep up with friends and family.

I believe they should have able to remove anything they want. I just don't believe they should have immunity if they want don't want to be a open platform, free of censorship, and editorial control.

Why should NYT be held liable for content, but not Facebook? They were immunized from law suits because they were a carrier of information, just like a telephone company. Would you support the phone company deciding who you could speak to? And about what?

To be fair that gal on the AT & T commercial could influence me for a lil' while anyway. :biggrin:
 

Microbeman

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The right is about freedom, the left is about taking away freedom in exchange for "safety". I'm not talking about the 1960's, I'm talking about 2021 and most Democrats are definitely authoritarian. Your favorite Congress woman AOC is talking about editing any news she doesn't like, it doesn't get more authoritarian than that.

citation?
 

'Boogieman'

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citation?


https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou...FxAK&usg=AOvVaw0RXyV_85VelK_UGHS5-3eQ&ampcf=1

This kind of state intrusion into discourse — on whatever level AOC envisions it — would, like all other facets of society lorded over by Congress, inevitably lead to giant rent-seeking corporations like CNN, ABC, NBC, Washington Post, The New York Times, gaining favor with government and consolidating power. The less powerful would either be left to contour their speech to please the state’s factcheckers or be branded liars. The press should challenging those in power, not obsequiously trying to earn gold stars from unelected bureaucrats on a state-run committee.
 

Absolem

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MAGA accusing Dems of "authoritarians" or "propaganda" after what we saw on Jan 6th is a joke.

Trump "propaganda" led MAGA terrorist's to the capitol as "authoritarians" to overturn the votes of 80 million people,
 

Absolem

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Zeez

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Yeah, Don't make them mad. They might try to overthrow the country again.

The real answer is - Screw em to the wall.
 

growlegal

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After the new jobs report and an attack by thugs in the peoples house
I'm thinking Joe Bidens going to have to become a Superhero, to clean up the entire Trump mess, including the failed Vaccine efforts

Congrats Joe
 
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Sertaiz

this

this

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou...FxAK&usg=AOvVaw0RXyV_85VelK_UGHS5-3eQ&ampcf=1

This kind of state intrusion into discourse — on whatever level AOC envisions it — would, like all other facets of society lorded over by Congress, inevitably lead to giant rent-seeking corporations like CNN, ABC, NBC, Washington Post, The New York Times, gaining favor with government and consolidating power. The less powerful would either be left to contour their speech to please the state’s factcheckers or be branded liars. The press should challenging those in power, not obsequiously trying to earn gold stars from unelected bureaucrats on a state-run committee.

anyone who wants to have a real discussion of this please watch the SECOND part of pl@Ndemic. the part where he shows how the mainstream media is connected and follows each other, ganglike.

If you watch what i watch your opinion matters to me, please send me a link showing how the media control is fine, honest and all good, i will watch that with an open mind. I am too scared to put up a link to mine. easy to talk big when you know the mainstream is on your side. :bump:
 
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It is called Propaganda

You're welcome :yay:

what is the difference to you? who tells it?

this was in there, and it feels like yall saying... screw em to the wall.
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For those unaware, the “truth and reconciliation commission” the AOC fan asked about was most famously used in South Africa after the fall of apartheid as means of “restorative justice.” The insinuation by those who use this phrase is that 74 million Americans who voted for the Republican presidential candidate are racist thugs in need for similar programs. It’s a disgusting smear, and speaks to the dangerous and illiberal inclination of progressives."

we have to look past labels
 
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but you wont watch it will you????
waste of time then.
maybe someone will.
ONE LOVE
mike drop.
 

aridbud

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Headlines and happy dance!
Trump becomes first president to be impeached twice, as bipartisan majority charges him with inciting Capitol riot CNBC

IMPOTUS DJT saying, “You tell people a lie 3 times, they will believe anything."You can’t con people, at least not for long. You can create excitement, you can do wonderful promotion and get all kinds of press, and you can throw in a little hyperbole. But if you don’t deliver the goods, people will eventually catch on" Trump. Art of the Deal.

DJT created far more than 'a little excitement' and hyperbole. INSURRECTION, plain and simple 'Go fight like hell'.

THE FACTS: Trump’s speech was a call to action — a call to fight and save the country.

“Our country has had enough,” he told those who went on to stage the violent siege of the Capitol.

We fight like hell and if you don’t fight like hell, you’re not going to have a country anymore.”

“We want to go back, and we want to get this right because we’re going to have somebody in there that should not be in there and our country will be destroyed, and we’re not going to stand for that.” DJT.....asinine.

No matter regarding Senate trial, DJT is still third IMPEACHED PRESIDENT TWICE....sticks like super glue, that esteemed title until and after he dies. IMPOTUS #3 FOREVER!

Biden will be around in 2024, finishing 1 term. Too bad DJT won't! What an esteemed achievement- Impeached TWICE! What a legacy.
 

Microbeman

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https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou...FxAK&usg=AOvVaw0RXyV_85VelK_UGHS5-3eQ&ampcf=1

This kind of state intrusion into discourse — on whatever level AOC envisions it — would, like all other facets of society lorded over by Congress, inevitably lead to giant rent-seeking corporations like CNN, ABC, NBC, Washington Post, The New York Times, gaining favor with government and consolidating power. The less powerful would either be left to contour their speech to please the state’s factcheckers or be branded liars. The press should challenging those in power, not obsequiously trying to earn gold stars from unelected bureaucrats on a state-run committee.

Thanks for the effort but I could only find one quote on the page from Cortez, which from my perception did not state what you have attributed.

“It’s one thing to have differentiating opinions but it’s another thing entirely to just say things that are false,” Ocasio-Cortez added. “So that’s something that we’re looking into.”

I do agree with you that government controlled news would be horrendous but I have yet to see that this is what she is proposing.

I have some concurrence that the calling people on lying should be made more effective but how?

Look at how easily the willing public is manipulated;
As an example
1/ Repeat many times that the election will be rigged.
2/ Repeat many times the election was rigged; stolen
3/ Perform a poll amongst the willing public which shows a large percentage of the public believe the election was rigged; stolen
4/ Politicians repeat talking points that because a large percentage of the public believes the election was stolen we must investigate; challenge the election results. These are accompanied by a limited number of truths = some instances of actual fraud.
5 This further involves the willing public and validates the supposed fact.

This is cyclical affirmation, a well known and practiced method of training people to conform or believe in a cause. It is a tool of many religions, cults, cons, belief systems etc.

The same could be said for the Russia debacle.

IMO
 
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