Yes these are for cancer cap's. Its not really that dark it's more of a red amber =...Ea Patient eats about 1g a day...
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Do you prefer using old material?
If I get anymore cancer patients I will get a vac purge system.. There about 250$ for the one I want..
Are you using raw bho or are you winterizing it with ethanol? I believe winterizing with ethanol to remove plant waxes, lipids, fats and residual butane is a must for making capsules esspecially for patients.
I'm confused if this is for caps then why did you say you care about the color?
Your making these for cancer patients and haven't taken the time to buy the necessary equipment? Come on man when making solvent extracts you don't cut corners esspecially when its for sick people, if it's for you and you only thats a different story. I don't even have cancer and would never consume plan old heat purged bho put into capsules.
I'm confused if this is for caps then why did you say you care about the color?
Your making these for cancer patients and haven't taken the time to buy the necessary equipment? Come on man when making solvent extracts you don't cut corners esspecially when its for sick people, if it's for you and you only thats a different story. I don't even have cancer and would never consume plan old heat purged bho put into capsules.
that just me. I dont like it to dark..We all have our preferences.. No Im not a doctor. When someone with Cancer comes to me and asked for caps I give them caps. They have seen me make them many times and there always free. From what they say they love them. I do not winterize but I would like to try that some day. You have a great night Im tired of playing with you kids im out.. Oh and at least Im helping these people. They know exactly whats in it. You act like this is something new. I was consuming raw OIL 25 years ago.
static shock
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tell me how are you helping people with some "rusty" oil making techniques?
leaving butane behind is a huge no no when your giving it to people, especially those with health problems as serious as cancer...
Im not acting like this is new, I know people have been consuming oil for a long time. I'm talking about making clean and properly made extracts that will be used as medicine. I've been noticing my standards are much higher than others and I'm the only one who consumes my extracts. It just gets under my skin when I see people cutting corners on solvent extracts being made for other people. I'm glad to hear your trying to help sick people and that's why quality and cleanliness are of the utmost importance.
Hammerhead,
I use little stainless condiment cups from walmart on an electric candle warmer to finish my purging post water bath....
I do my 3x hot water bath routine, then collect aka scrape up all of the not yet fully purged oil and collect it/dump it into one of the stainless cups. or more depending on volume...
I dont fill them to the brim maybe 3/4 of the way... To leave room for the bubbling off of butane.
I take the stainless cup of oil, make sure i clean its clean and easy to handle, and just set it on the candle warmer to initiate the rest of the butane purge
Im not sure what the temp is but i know its low but its plenty enough to get all the gas out of the oil. I just leave the cup (uncovered) on the warmer overnight. In the morning its nice and smooth or glassy w no sign of gas. I like to stir it a few times to check consistency and make sure all the gas is gone...
Then out comes the glass dropper the aluminum foil the scale and the little bottles.
Super clean hammerhead no mess no eorries about dumping your oil into water its easy homie i can pull it off
Of course someone knowledgeable and w greater bho experience will probably come in and tear me and my my crappy tech apart and lol at an insufficient purge technique.... But until then its a good solid purge method ime.
Just waiting on correction haha
(Please let me/ic know if the way im doing my purge is dangerous or ineffective in clearing all the butane id appreciate it)
Aloha
I use little stainless condiment cups from walmart on an electric candle warmer to finish my purging post water bath....
I do my 3x hot water bath routine, then collect aka scrape up all of the not yet fully purged oil and collect it/dump it into one of the stainless cups. or more depending on volume...
I dont fill them to the brim maybe 3/4 of the way... To leave room for the bubbling off of butane.
I take the stainless cup of oil, make sure i clean its clean and easy to handle, and just set it on the candle warmer to initiate the rest of the butane purge
Im not sure what the temp is but i know its low but its plenty enough to get all the gas out of the oil. I just leave the cup (uncovered) on the warmer overnight. In the morning its nice and smooth or glassy w no sign of gas. I like to stir it a few times to check consistency and make sure all the gas is gone...
Then out comes the glass dropper the aluminum foil the scale and the little bottles.
Super clean hammerhead no mess no eorries about dumping your oil into water its easy homie i can pull it off
Of course someone knowledgeable and w greater bho experience will probably come in and tear me and my my crappy tech apart and lol at an insufficient purge technique.... But until then its a good solid purge method ime.
Just waiting on correction haha
(Please let me/ic know if the way im doing my purge is dangerous or ineffective in clearing all the butane id appreciate it)
Aloha
Sounds like your purging similiar to the orginal way hammerhead was. If you read any of the others posts you would have figured out this isn't how you should be purging. The thinner the film of oil the better. This means you have more surface area for solvent to release. I purge at less than 1/8" thick in concert wth deep vacuum -29.9"hg and constant heat. If your only using heat the thinner the better. Keep your oil viscous enough to release solvent this is usually between 110-125F and purge untill bubbling ceases and your left with oil little to no bubbles. It's hard to get all of the bubbles out without vacuum.
static shock
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Come on folks, you might have been in the game for a long time, but us young dogs can still teach you oldies some new tricks! As mentioned above, residual butane is not something any cancer patient wants to be consuming if they know whats good for them. Whats the point of medicine that is in itself unhealthy?
Thin film low heat purge ftw, if I had a vacuum purge option I'd be using that too..
Thin film low heat purge ftw, if I had a vacuum purge option I'd be using that too..
Question then
If in the morning (after sitting on the warmer for 10hrs) andi come and check my cup theres no bubbling activity theres nothing in the oil no carbonated looking little bubbles its just a cup of warm smooth golden oil... Its still got gas trapped?
That i cant see?
If in the morning (after sitting on the warmer for 10hrs) andi come and check my cup theres no bubbling activity theres nothing in the oil no carbonated looking little bubbles its just a cup of warm smooth golden oil... Its still got gas trapped?
That i cant see?
Most likely yes! Logic dictates that it will be easier to purge something with a larger surface area, don't you think?
Actaully yes crsytal clear oil can still have butane within it that hasn't yet formed into a gas bubble. I can attest to that I have taken batches out of my vacuum chamber for a test dab that is completely crystal clear zero bubble oil that snap crackle pops like no other and sparks when hit with direct flame.
Its a fact purging a thin film is better than thick its not opinion.
Its a fact purging a thin film is better than thick its not opinion.
okay
most likely isnt definate, but it leaves little wriggle room....
hmmmm
so, for the sake of oil in the state of oil (not wax or budder), low and slow spread thin? whats the proper time?
how can i tell when the gas is all gone?
whether or not the oil is spread thin or thick, how can one visually confirm completion of the purge? thanks
this is the way it looks after the 3rd hot water bath and surface bubbling has stalled..... and the water that was hot is cold
this is how it looks after 10hrs or so of sitting on the warmer and scooped up after getting some time to cool down and thicken up
aloha
most likely isnt definate, but it leaves little wriggle room....
hmmmm
so, for the sake of oil in the state of oil (not wax or budder), low and slow spread thin? whats the proper time?
how can i tell when the gas is all gone?
whether or not the oil is spread thin or thick, how can one visually confirm completion of the purge? thanks
this is the way it looks after the 3rd hot water bath and surface bubbling has stalled..... and the water that was hot is cold
this is how it looks after 10hrs or so of sitting on the warmer and scooped up after getting some time to cool down and thicken up
aloha
so if i put a flame directly to the oil, and i do not get a snap crackle pop, that is a sign of completed purge?
no snap crackle pop = no more trapped butane
^^^^is that correct????
i want to make sure i am using a "standard measure of reference" or something like that whatever you call it....
no snap crackle pop = no more trapped butane
^^^^is that correct????
i want to make sure i am using a "standard measure of reference" or something like that whatever you call it....
Visual confirmation and the flame test are both far from scientific methods, but can be used as a vague guideline if its all you have to go by. I can certainly taste improperly purged oil when I smoke it though 
Low and slow for 10hrs would be perfect if you would have kept it in a large pyrex dish and not that little metal dish. The larger the surface area the less time it takes to purge and the more thorough of a purge. Purging anything more than 1/8" thick is counterproductive IMO/IME.
static shock
Member
Visual confirmation and the flame test are both far from scientific methods, but can be used as a vague guideline if its all you have to go by. I can certainly taste improperly purged oil when I smoke it though
smoothness is how i determine.
also if you are dabin it, under purged oil will sizzle on your Ti if tane or h20 is still in the hash
I purge my oil untill multiply things tell me its complete
-bubbling stops under deep vacuum and constant heat.
-visibly translucent with zero cloudiness, bubbles anything.
-hard sap to shatter texture if extracted from fresh material
-No snap crackle pop when placed on hot Ti
-No sparks from the bubbles forming with direct flame not to be confused with the whole oil catching on fire.
-smooth on the throat and lungs.
-tastes just like the material it came from
-bubbling stops under deep vacuum and constant heat.
-visibly translucent with zero cloudiness, bubbles anything.
-hard sap to shatter texture if extracted from fresh material
-No snap crackle pop when placed on hot Ti
-No sparks from the bubbles forming with direct flame not to be confused with the whole oil catching on fire.
-smooth on the throat and lungs.
-tastes just like the material it came from
