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Luther Burbank
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wayne from the above story was blasting indoors on an electric stove.....Darwin award winner...
So don't do what wayne did...mmmkay
So don't do what wayne did...mmmkay
http://articles.sun-sentinel.com/20...se-20140506_1_house-explodes-2-flee-explosion
Check out the 2nd and 3rd degree burn pictures at the bottom of this post, most of the burns were caused by stupidity and the lack of basic common sense. The burns are long lasting and are of an excruciating nature, the pain is constant. A butane explosion creates heat of over 3000 degree's, you will not walk away unharmed if your are within the explosions perimeter; look at the burns, nothing is worth that.
The explosion of a suspected pot grow house that rocked a West Boca neighborhood sent the two residents of the home scrambling to escape, a mad rush that was caught on home surveillance video.
The pair, a man and a woman, left the house in the 22100 block of Southwest 62nd Avenue so quickly after the 5 a.m. blast that they left behind their dog, a bull mastiff.
"It sounded like something hit the house," said resident Dan McGuire, who lives across the street. Outside, he discovered that his home was fine but that the home across the street had windows blown out.
Grow house experts say a number of things could have caused the explosion.
It could have been an electrical overload, a blast from propane that is sometimes used inside grow houses, or even butane, which is used to help extract oil from marijuana plants.
Sometimes, shoddy electric wiring and intense heat from lights can turn the homes into ticking time bombs, police and other experts say.
Darren D. Shull, a criminal defense attorney in Palm Beach County, said the tremendous amounts of electricity used to light and cool a grow house can cause people to steal electricity through buried lines or use alternative power sources like propane tanks or natural gas.
The explosion could have also been caused by butane if it was being used to extract oil.
"It's usually hand-held butane and if the flame goes out and you leave that running, the gas can fill a room and cause an explosion," said Shull.
Melody Handy lives next door to the grow house and said the couple moved in around Christmas and said the house was under foreclosure before the latest neighbors moved in.
County real estate records show the home was purchased by 62nd Ave Holdings LLC in April 2013 for $112,900. No one from the company could be reached for comment Tuesday. The identities of the people staying in the house is not known.
Emma Silverman said she, her husband and 4-year-old son were all sleeping when the explosion happened. She returned to bed but when her dog started growling, she got back up.
"I looked out my window and I could see somebody walking up and down my property and I said to my husband, "There's someone out there.' "
Surveillance video from neighbor Mignonne Jean-Pierre, who lives next door to the home that exploded, shows a man and woman scrambling and putting something in a car parked in the house's driveway right after the explosion.
The dog they abandoned was picked up by Palm Beach Animal Care & Control.
Miami-Dade County had far and away the highest number of indoor grow house sites in the state in 2013 with 180 discovered according to a report from the state Office of Agriculture Law Enforcement. Orange County had the second highest with 28 sites found.
Broward was fifth in the state with 25 and Palm Beach County was seventh with 22 sites. The report cites Florida's warm climate and vast rural woodlands as creating a "fertile environment for criminals."
In this case, the suspected grow house was located in suburban development called Sandalfoot Cove. Many of the homes are occupied by families with children. Although it may seem an unusual spot for an illegal operation, Shull says it had some advantages for the growers.
"It's much easier now to just be hiding in plain view. With everyone moving around, you don't know what's what," Shull said.
"It seems like a relatively recent trend of people who have figured out how to turn a benign plant into an explosive."
http://www.google.com/search?q=2nd+...7Aqa_2QXS04CoDQ&ved=0CCcQsAQ&biw=1345&bih=841
Check out the 2nd and 3rd degree burn pictures at the bottom of this post, most of the burns were caused by stupidity and the lack of basic common sense. The burns are long lasting and are of an excruciating nature, the pain is constant. A butane explosion creates heat of over 3000 degree's, you will not walk away unharmed if your are within the explosions perimeter; look at the burns, nothing is worth that.
The explosion of a suspected pot grow house that rocked a West Boca neighborhood sent the two residents of the home scrambling to escape, a mad rush that was caught on home surveillance video.
The pair, a man and a woman, left the house in the 22100 block of Southwest 62nd Avenue so quickly after the 5 a.m. blast that they left behind their dog, a bull mastiff.
"It sounded like something hit the house," said resident Dan McGuire, who lives across the street. Outside, he discovered that his home was fine but that the home across the street had windows blown out.
Grow house experts say a number of things could have caused the explosion.
It could have been an electrical overload, a blast from propane that is sometimes used inside grow houses, or even butane, which is used to help extract oil from marijuana plants.
Sometimes, shoddy electric wiring and intense heat from lights can turn the homes into ticking time bombs, police and other experts say.
Darren D. Shull, a criminal defense attorney in Palm Beach County, said the tremendous amounts of electricity used to light and cool a grow house can cause people to steal electricity through buried lines or use alternative power sources like propane tanks or natural gas.
The explosion could have also been caused by butane if it was being used to extract oil.
"It's usually hand-held butane and if the flame goes out and you leave that running, the gas can fill a room and cause an explosion," said Shull.
Melody Handy lives next door to the grow house and said the couple moved in around Christmas and said the house was under foreclosure before the latest neighbors moved in.
County real estate records show the home was purchased by 62nd Ave Holdings LLC in April 2013 for $112,900. No one from the company could be reached for comment Tuesday. The identities of the people staying in the house is not known.
Emma Silverman said she, her husband and 4-year-old son were all sleeping when the explosion happened. She returned to bed but when her dog started growling, she got back up.
"I looked out my window and I could see somebody walking up and down my property and I said to my husband, "There's someone out there.' "
Surveillance video from neighbor Mignonne Jean-Pierre, who lives next door to the home that exploded, shows a man and woman scrambling and putting something in a car parked in the house's driveway right after the explosion.
The dog they abandoned was picked up by Palm Beach Animal Care & Control.
Miami-Dade County had far and away the highest number of indoor grow house sites in the state in 2013 with 180 discovered according to a report from the state Office of Agriculture Law Enforcement. Orange County had the second highest with 28 sites found.
Broward was fifth in the state with 25 and Palm Beach County was seventh with 22 sites. The report cites Florida's warm climate and vast rural woodlands as creating a "fertile environment for criminals."
In this case, the suspected grow house was located in suburban development called Sandalfoot Cove. Many of the homes are occupied by families with children. Although it may seem an unusual spot for an illegal operation, Shull says it had some advantages for the growers.
"It's much easier now to just be hiding in plain view. With everyone moving around, you don't know what's what," Shull said.
"It seems like a relatively recent trend of people who have figured out how to turn a benign plant into an explosive."
http://www.google.com/search?q=2nd+...7Aqa_2QXS04CoDQ&ved=0CCcQsAQ&biw=1345&bih=841
http://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/Explosion-Rosemead-Fire-Hash-Oil-Butane-258281291.html
Check out the pictures at the URL below, they are of burn cases. You will not look pretty if your within the fireball of a Butane explosion, some of these people have had their faces blown off. Check out "Gray Wolf's" list of safety measures, never ever do this inside or you will end up in the Guinness book of morons eventually.
An explosion at a Southern California residence forced evacuations early Wednesday as authorities investigated whether the blast was connected to a narcotics operation.
Butane gas containers were found on the property, according to investigators. Butane is commonly used in the process of making intoxicating hash oil from castoff marijuana leaves and stems.
The resulting fire burned brush behind the residence in the 8000 block of Emmerson Road in Rosemead, about 10 miles east of downtown Los Angeles. The explosion appeared to have occurred in a shed behind a house.
Charred debris, including what remained of the shed and a fence, was scattered around the property.
Updates:*NBCLA Mobile App
A burn victim, identified only as a man in his 30s, was hospitalized. Details regarding his condition were not immediately available.
The explosion and fire report was received at about 1 a.m. Residents were evacuated but later returned home after fire crews responded to extinguish the fire
"It seems like a relatively recent trend of people who have figured out how to turn a benign plant into an explosive."
http://www.google.com/search?q=2nd+...7Aqa_2QXS04CoDQ&ved=0CCcQsAQ&biw=1345&bih=841
Check out the pictures at the URL below, they are of burn cases. You will not look pretty if your within the fireball of a Butane explosion, some of these people have had their faces blown off. Check out "Gray Wolf's" list of safety measures, never ever do this inside or you will end up in the Guinness book of morons eventually.
An explosion at a Southern California residence forced evacuations early Wednesday as authorities investigated whether the blast was connected to a narcotics operation.
Butane gas containers were found on the property, according to investigators. Butane is commonly used in the process of making intoxicating hash oil from castoff marijuana leaves and stems.
The resulting fire burned brush behind the residence in the 8000 block of Emmerson Road in Rosemead, about 10 miles east of downtown Los Angeles. The explosion appeared to have occurred in a shed behind a house.
Charred debris, including what remained of the shed and a fence, was scattered around the property.
Updates:*NBCLA Mobile App
A burn victim, identified only as a man in his 30s, was hospitalized. Details regarding his condition were not immediately available.
The explosion and fire report was received at about 1 a.m. Residents were evacuated but later returned home after fire crews responded to extinguish the fire
"It seems like a relatively recent trend of people who have figured out how to turn a benign plant into an explosive."
http://www.google.com/search?q=2nd+...7Aqa_2QXS04CoDQ&ved=0CCcQsAQ&biw=1345&bih=841
Someone posted that since legalization in Colorado, there has been 31+ explosions so far...
Most likely will outlaw concentrate making there really soon...
Most likely will outlaw concentrate making there really soon...
Krunch,
So far this month there has been one explosion per day. Very soon there will be a mercaptan push by the Feds to take care of the problem. There has been no explosions of closed systems to my knowledge for the last year or ever for that matter, its like a lot of things that get a bad rap, its just a few bad apples that screw it for everyone. Closed sytems cost money but that money is nothing compared to months in the burn ward and the trememdous pain and suffering of getting your face blown off. Still think of the young couple in New York with 2nd and 3rd degree burns from their waists up, only their lungs were spared, everything else was charred. Look at those burns people are getting, these idiots have to use common sense or they're toast.
"It seems like a relatively recent trend of people who have figured out how to turn a benign plant into an explosive."
http://www.google.com/search?q=2nd+...7Aqa_2QXS04CoDQ&ved=0CCcQsAQ&biw=1345&bih=841
So far this month there has been one explosion per day. Very soon there will be a mercaptan push by the Feds to take care of the problem. There has been no explosions of closed systems to my knowledge for the last year or ever for that matter, its like a lot of things that get a bad rap, its just a few bad apples that screw it for everyone. Closed sytems cost money but that money is nothing compared to months in the burn ward and the trememdous pain and suffering of getting your face blown off. Still think of the young couple in New York with 2nd and 3rd degree burns from their waists up, only their lungs were spared, everything else was charred. Look at those burns people are getting, these idiots have to use common sense or they're toast.
"It seems like a relatively recent trend of people who have figured out how to turn a benign plant into an explosive."
http://www.google.com/search?q=2nd+...7Aqa_2QXS04CoDQ&ved=0CCcQsAQ&biw=1345&bih=841
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i actually believe you are 100% correct about this. I believe THIS is how the authorities will combat the situation. So at that point, the only thing that will be able to be safely used is reagent grade butane from sigma-aldrich, not lighter fluid from the corner store.
The writing is on the [blown-out] wall.
http://ravallirepublic.com/news/local/article_540fddae-d64f-11e3-a798-001a4bcf887a.html
Teen burned by explosion while making hash oil
An early morning attempt to use butane to brew a batch of hash oil ended in an explosion that sent a Hamilton teen to an out-of-state burn center.
Hamilton Police Chief Ryan Oster said officers responded to an early morning call Tuesday from Marcus Daly Memorial Hospital about a badly burned male juvenile who had been dropped off there.
“The people with the juvenile went in and summoned paramedics, dropped off the juvenile and then they left,” Oster said.
The officers were able to obtain a description of the vehicle and located it a short time later. Inside, they found a 25-year-old male who had also been burned.
Officers obtained search warrants for both the car and a home on the 400 block of Madison Street.
Inside the home, they discovered evidence of an explosion that blew out a window and caught the inside of the home on fire.
Oster said the juvenile and the older man were allegedly making hash oil from marijuana using a process that involved the use of butane. The butane apparently combusted, there was an explosion and the men were burned as a result.
The juvenile male was transported to an out-of-state burn center for treatment of his injuries.
Howard M. Wease III was charged with felony counts of operating a clandestine laboratory and criminal endangerment. Wease’s last known address was a general delivery box in California.
Oster said the investigation into the matter continues.
This was the first time in Oster’s memory that an explosion had occurred in Hamilton from people making hash oil.
A recent Associated Press report said the practice of using butane to make the product has been on the rise in Colorado where marijuana can now be purchased legally for recreational use.
“Butane is highly combustible,” Oster said. “This is a significantly dangerous thing to be doing. It’s not a good idea.”
"It seems like a relatively recent trend of people who have figured out how to turn a benign plant into an explosive."
http://www.google.com/search?q=2nd+...7Aqa_2QXS04CoDQ&ved=0CCcQsAQ&biw=1345&bih=841
Teen burned by explosion while making hash oil
An early morning attempt to use butane to brew a batch of hash oil ended in an explosion that sent a Hamilton teen to an out-of-state burn center.
Hamilton Police Chief Ryan Oster said officers responded to an early morning call Tuesday from Marcus Daly Memorial Hospital about a badly burned male juvenile who had been dropped off there.
“The people with the juvenile went in and summoned paramedics, dropped off the juvenile and then they left,” Oster said.
The officers were able to obtain a description of the vehicle and located it a short time later. Inside, they found a 25-year-old male who had also been burned.
Officers obtained search warrants for both the car and a home on the 400 block of Madison Street.
Inside the home, they discovered evidence of an explosion that blew out a window and caught the inside of the home on fire.
Oster said the juvenile and the older man were allegedly making hash oil from marijuana using a process that involved the use of butane. The butane apparently combusted, there was an explosion and the men were burned as a result.
The juvenile male was transported to an out-of-state burn center for treatment of his injuries.
Howard M. Wease III was charged with felony counts of operating a clandestine laboratory and criminal endangerment. Wease’s last known address was a general delivery box in California.
Oster said the investigation into the matter continues.
This was the first time in Oster’s memory that an explosion had occurred in Hamilton from people making hash oil.
A recent Associated Press report said the practice of using butane to make the product has been on the rise in Colorado where marijuana can now be purchased legally for recreational use.
“Butane is highly combustible,” Oster said. “This is a significantly dangerous thing to be doing. It’s not a good idea.”
"It seems like a relatively recent trend of people who have figured out how to turn a benign plant into an explosive."
http://www.google.com/search?q=2nd+...7Aqa_2QXS04CoDQ&ved=0CCcQsAQ&biw=1345&bih=841
http://www.hightimes.com/read/butane-hash-oil-“crack-marijuana”
Not quite on topic but maybe of interest
Is Butane Hash Oil the “Crack of Marijuana”?
BY RUSS BELVILLE · WED MAY 07, 2014
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About two-and-a-half years ago I wrote an article entitled “The Danger of Dabs.”*It got me more hate mail than just about anything I’ve written, presumably from the 710 crowd reading the title only and thinking I was vilifying the cannabis concentrate itself. Had they continued reading, they would have reached the point, which was this:
With dabs your local action news team gets to do a marijuana story that shows crack pipe torches used on sticky heroin-looking goo made from a process that blows up like meth labs. The danger of dabs isn’t so much physical as it is a public relations nightmare.
Lately, it hasn’t just been the “local action news team,” it’s been one of the big four national networks and the Associated Press. ABC News had done many stories of the phenomenon of residential explosions from home butane hash oil (BHO) manufacture gone wrong. Their latest reprint of an AP story, “Hash Oil Explosions Rise With Legalized Marijuana,” offers some alarming statistics.
Referring to marijuana concentrate as “the drug’s intoxicating oil,” the story notes Colorado’s burn center treated one victim of a BHO explosion in 2012, 11 in 2013, and just four months into 2013 they’ve treated 10 people, on pace for 30 by years’ end. Firefighters say they’ve responded to 31 BHO explosions in 2014, compared to 11 for all of last year.
As a student of prohibition history, I’m reminded of the 1970s. The support for marijuana legalization in the Gallup Poll rose from 12 percent nationally in 1969 to 30 percent nationally by 1978.* In the five years between 1973 and 1978, starting with Oregon and ending with Nebraska, 11 states decriminalized pot, ending the threat of arrest for personal possession. Legalization seemed inevitable as young people enjoyed the ascendance of marijuana’s popularity.
But waiting in the wings were those who hated the marijuana and all it stood for. Some were business people fighting natural competition, others were parents fighting to keep their kids sober, still others were prudes morally opposed to anybody having a good time, and some were fighting marijuana as a stand-in for other culture wars over Vietnam, civil rights, women’s rights, and communism. While they were losing ground in the national mood toward Mary Jane, they gained an unexpected public relations ally in Snow White.
In the late 1970s, cocaine and marijuana were party buddies. It wasn’t uncommon to see party goers with a necklace from which dangled a tiny cocaine spoon. The “tap tap, sniff sniff” sound in a bathroom was normal. This website’s famous magazine featured centerfolds of lines of coke alongside bountiful buds and bodacious babes. An ad for Pure Research in April ’78 shows a mound of powder, a razor blade, and professional scale and purity test kit for “crystalline substances.” “Legal Cocaine - A Plan for the ‘80s” reads a cover tease for an article from March ’79 that opens with “Mom, Apple Pie, & Cocaine.” My favorite is the Christmas 1980 cover featuring a sexy woman in red lingerie offering up four lines of cocaine on a mirror in bed.
By the time you hit the 1980s, you get President Ronald Reagan saying smoking even one joint was as damaging to the brain as radioactive fallout from a nuclear weapon (seriously!) Parents’ groups sprung up and got much attention showing off the most extreme pot paraphernalia they could find (eek! a gas mask bong!) And the knockout punch for legalization came when marijuana’s powdery friend started burning up freebasers like Richard Pryor, killing great talents like John Belushi and Len Bias, and evolving into a cheap potent smokable form called crack.
Very quickly, what had been a Me Generation celebrating freedom and getting high flipped to a generation of Baby Boomers becoming parents who rejected the libertine ways of the 1970s and embraced the Just Say No / "Miami Vice" / crack baby scaremongering of the 1980s. Public support for marijuana legalization bottomed out at 16 percent and didn’t top the previous mark of 30 percent again until the 2000s.
So, is butane hash oil the crack cocaine of the 2010s? Not pharmacologically, of course -- you can become seriously addicted to cocaine, overdose and die from it, whereas the worst effect from overdabbing is extreme coughing, vomiting or passing out. But as a public relations nightmare, a killer of legalization momentum, and a residential explosion danger, could BHO do to marijuana now what cocaine did to marijuana then?
One thing our opponents can say accurately about marijuana prohibition is that it raises the cost of marijuana. While prohibition has led to cheaper cocaine, meth, and heroin, cannabis is about double its 1980s cost in inflation-adjusted dollars. When marijuana is expensive, there is more profit to be made from it in plant form.
But through legalization, marijuana becomes cheaper, even with exorbitant taxation. Check any weed-price aggregator on the web and you’ll find the cheapest high-quality marijuana where there are the most liberal medical marijuana and legalization laws. Where weed is cheap and plentiful, there is far more excess trim around to blast into butane hash oil and more profit incentive to make it, as it fetches from $10-$40 a gram in “green states” and up to $100 a gram in prohibition states.
I believe the genie is out of the bottle, so to speak, on butane hash oil. There are far too many YouTube videos showing how to do it and it’s not exactly a "Breaking Bad" Heisenberg-level of chemistry experiment. Maintaining or returning to marijuana prohibition isn’t going to stop profiteers from blasting BHO, it will just make it all that more profitable. A large segment of the cannabis community, judging from the popularity of extract-related booths at every marijuana trade show I attend, has switched completely to concentrates only, saying “710* is the new 420” and eschewing any ingestion of “plant matter.” The law of supply and demand dictates that someone will always be making BHO for them.
But the cynic in me wonders how many tales of teens who reject flower entirely in favor of surreptitious oil hits off concealable vapor pens in classrooms will it take to ignite the next moral panic among parents? When will we see the hash oil explosion in an apartment complex that doesn’t just burn a couple of ignorant young adult hash makers, but burns down the homes and kills members of a few innocent families? How long before the sensational story and accompanying pictures of toddlers with third degree burns from a hash oil explosion are used by a politician arguing against even a decrim bill in a prohibition state or arguing against no home grow in a friendlier state? We can make all the factual arguments we like about a few “bad apples” or how home deep-fried turkey basting causes more fires every year than BHO, but in the face of a moral panic, emotion will trump logic every time.
I’m afraid the best we can do is to educate our people about the dangers of unventilated hash oil manufacture and educate the public that excessive taxation and regulation raises marijuana cost and makes hash oil production more profitable. Let’s hope we can legalize states faster than AP and ABC can spread hash oil fear mongering.
"It seems like a relatively recent trend of people who have figured out how to turn a benign plant into an explosive."
http://www.google.com/search?q=2nd+...7Aqa_2QXS04CoDQ&ved=0CCcQsAQ&biw=1345&bih=841
Not quite on topic but maybe of interest
Is Butane Hash Oil the “Crack of Marijuana”?
BY RUSS BELVILLE · WED MAY 07, 2014
• RSS
About two-and-a-half years ago I wrote an article entitled “The Danger of Dabs.”*It got me more hate mail than just about anything I’ve written, presumably from the 710 crowd reading the title only and thinking I was vilifying the cannabis concentrate itself. Had they continued reading, they would have reached the point, which was this:
With dabs your local action news team gets to do a marijuana story that shows crack pipe torches used on sticky heroin-looking goo made from a process that blows up like meth labs. The danger of dabs isn’t so much physical as it is a public relations nightmare.
Lately, it hasn’t just been the “local action news team,” it’s been one of the big four national networks and the Associated Press. ABC News had done many stories of the phenomenon of residential explosions from home butane hash oil (BHO) manufacture gone wrong. Their latest reprint of an AP story, “Hash Oil Explosions Rise With Legalized Marijuana,” offers some alarming statistics.
Referring to marijuana concentrate as “the drug’s intoxicating oil,” the story notes Colorado’s burn center treated one victim of a BHO explosion in 2012, 11 in 2013, and just four months into 2013 they’ve treated 10 people, on pace for 30 by years’ end. Firefighters say they’ve responded to 31 BHO explosions in 2014, compared to 11 for all of last year.
As a student of prohibition history, I’m reminded of the 1970s. The support for marijuana legalization in the Gallup Poll rose from 12 percent nationally in 1969 to 30 percent nationally by 1978.* In the five years between 1973 and 1978, starting with Oregon and ending with Nebraska, 11 states decriminalized pot, ending the threat of arrest for personal possession. Legalization seemed inevitable as young people enjoyed the ascendance of marijuana’s popularity.
But waiting in the wings were those who hated the marijuana and all it stood for. Some were business people fighting natural competition, others were parents fighting to keep their kids sober, still others were prudes morally opposed to anybody having a good time, and some were fighting marijuana as a stand-in for other culture wars over Vietnam, civil rights, women’s rights, and communism. While they were losing ground in the national mood toward Mary Jane, they gained an unexpected public relations ally in Snow White.
In the late 1970s, cocaine and marijuana were party buddies. It wasn’t uncommon to see party goers with a necklace from which dangled a tiny cocaine spoon. The “tap tap, sniff sniff” sound in a bathroom was normal. This website’s famous magazine featured centerfolds of lines of coke alongside bountiful buds and bodacious babes. An ad for Pure Research in April ’78 shows a mound of powder, a razor blade, and professional scale and purity test kit for “crystalline substances.” “Legal Cocaine - A Plan for the ‘80s” reads a cover tease for an article from March ’79 that opens with “Mom, Apple Pie, & Cocaine.” My favorite is the Christmas 1980 cover featuring a sexy woman in red lingerie offering up four lines of cocaine on a mirror in bed.
By the time you hit the 1980s, you get President Ronald Reagan saying smoking even one joint was as damaging to the brain as radioactive fallout from a nuclear weapon (seriously!) Parents’ groups sprung up and got much attention showing off the most extreme pot paraphernalia they could find (eek! a gas mask bong!) And the knockout punch for legalization came when marijuana’s powdery friend started burning up freebasers like Richard Pryor, killing great talents like John Belushi and Len Bias, and evolving into a cheap potent smokable form called crack.
Very quickly, what had been a Me Generation celebrating freedom and getting high flipped to a generation of Baby Boomers becoming parents who rejected the libertine ways of the 1970s and embraced the Just Say No / "Miami Vice" / crack baby scaremongering of the 1980s. Public support for marijuana legalization bottomed out at 16 percent and didn’t top the previous mark of 30 percent again until the 2000s.
So, is butane hash oil the crack cocaine of the 2010s? Not pharmacologically, of course -- you can become seriously addicted to cocaine, overdose and die from it, whereas the worst effect from overdabbing is extreme coughing, vomiting or passing out. But as a public relations nightmare, a killer of legalization momentum, and a residential explosion danger, could BHO do to marijuana now what cocaine did to marijuana then?
One thing our opponents can say accurately about marijuana prohibition is that it raises the cost of marijuana. While prohibition has led to cheaper cocaine, meth, and heroin, cannabis is about double its 1980s cost in inflation-adjusted dollars. When marijuana is expensive, there is more profit to be made from it in plant form.
But through legalization, marijuana becomes cheaper, even with exorbitant taxation. Check any weed-price aggregator on the web and you’ll find the cheapest high-quality marijuana where there are the most liberal medical marijuana and legalization laws. Where weed is cheap and plentiful, there is far more excess trim around to blast into butane hash oil and more profit incentive to make it, as it fetches from $10-$40 a gram in “green states” and up to $100 a gram in prohibition states.
I believe the genie is out of the bottle, so to speak, on butane hash oil. There are far too many YouTube videos showing how to do it and it’s not exactly a "Breaking Bad" Heisenberg-level of chemistry experiment. Maintaining or returning to marijuana prohibition isn’t going to stop profiteers from blasting BHO, it will just make it all that more profitable. A large segment of the cannabis community, judging from the popularity of extract-related booths at every marijuana trade show I attend, has switched completely to concentrates only, saying “710* is the new 420” and eschewing any ingestion of “plant matter.” The law of supply and demand dictates that someone will always be making BHO for them.
But the cynic in me wonders how many tales of teens who reject flower entirely in favor of surreptitious oil hits off concealable vapor pens in classrooms will it take to ignite the next moral panic among parents? When will we see the hash oil explosion in an apartment complex that doesn’t just burn a couple of ignorant young adult hash makers, but burns down the homes and kills members of a few innocent families? How long before the sensational story and accompanying pictures of toddlers with third degree burns from a hash oil explosion are used by a politician arguing against even a decrim bill in a prohibition state or arguing against no home grow in a friendlier state? We can make all the factual arguments we like about a few “bad apples” or how home deep-fried turkey basting causes more fires every year than BHO, but in the face of a moral panic, emotion will trump logic every time.
I’m afraid the best we can do is to educate our people about the dangers of unventilated hash oil manufacture and educate the public that excessive taxation and regulation raises marijuana cost and makes hash oil production more profitable. Let’s hope we can legalize states faster than AP and ABC can spread hash oil fear mongering.
"It seems like a relatively recent trend of people who have figured out how to turn a benign plant into an explosive."
http://www.google.com/search?q=2nd+...7Aqa_2QXS04CoDQ&ved=0CCcQsAQ&biw=1345&bih=841
That's a good article, and it touches on all the things that I've been saying for years now. Whether we like it or not, the public will see all these fires and explosions as another reason why cannabis shouldn't be legalized. They will start (actually they already are) drawing comparisons to meth labs. And I can't say I disagree. It really does seem dangerous in many of the same ways meth labs are dangerous: performed by uneducated people, done inside of houses and trailers, plenty of unsuspecting neighbors all around, the list goes on and on.
People need to start smacking their friends, neighbors, or acquaintances that they find out are blasting in urban or suburban areas. Disown them, or just beat them to a bloody pulp... But do something. Because they are going to disservice the movement.
They already are.
People need to start smacking their friends, neighbors, or acquaintances that they find out are blasting in urban or suburban areas. Disown them, or just beat them to a bloody pulp... But do something. Because they are going to disservice the movement.
They already are.
Attention Gray Wolf or anyone with information about the safety of using a closed system? The explosions seems to be happening to only those that are using the old system of extraction, the Honey Bee, the Stainless Steel tubes, the glass tubes. In all the explosions so far, the closed system has not been named in any explosion, its only those people who have used tubes of some sort and with no safety concerns, only 1 or 2 explosion have been outside, 99% have been inside with people showing a lot of stupidity and/or lack of knowledge about the explosive nature of Butane. Its way past time to start inundation YouTube with warnings, a couple of hundred postings there by people WHO KNOW what they are talking about would help. What do you guys and gals think about a PR blitz at least on YouTube?
"What do you guys and gals think about a PR blitz at least on YouTube?"
Nice sentiment, but I doubt you'll get even one taker.
After putting my heart and soul into the canned butane residue testing with little to no assistance other than GW, I think my doubt is in line.
Nice sentiment, but I doubt you'll get even one taker.
After putting my heart and soul into the canned butane residue testing with little to no assistance other than GW, I think my doubt is in line.
I'm piecemeal reading through these and this has probably already been stated, but most of the YouTube vids (nearly all, actually) on BHO extraction are being done indoors. 
...and even then, I'm reading more and more about outdoor explosions as well here in the 707, particularly Sonoma County, aka indoor grow capital of the world (except Florida, if you believe the media).
...and even then, I'm reading more and more about outdoor explosions as well here in the 707, particularly Sonoma County, aka indoor grow capital of the world (except Florida, if you believe the media).
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http://www.medicaldaily.com/hash-oi...owners-penis-prompting-police-response-281298
Hash Oil Operation Busted After Pit Bull Bites Owner's Penis, Prompting Police Response
By Dana Dovey | May 8, 2014 05:17 PM EDT
Police discover hash oil manufacturing operation after following up on a call reporting a dog bite injury. Photo courtesy of Shutterstock
A butane hash oil laboratory in Telluride, Colo., was exposed when the suspect called emergency services after a pit bull bit his penis. Upon arriving at the residence, police reported seeing large amounts of blood, along with an array of butane bottles, several trays of suspected hash oil, and other potentially dangerous materials. *A hash oil operation is dangerous, so authorities are investigating whether it breaks any Colorado state laws. *
Colorado is famous for its legalization of recreational marijuana. However, creating hash oil in your home does not fit into the law as clearly. “These marijuana oil extraction operations are extremely dangerous … [but] there is some debate by our legal advisors if the operations are in fact illegal,” San Miguel County Sheriff Bill Masters explained, The Huffington Post*reported.
The individual was taken to the hospital for his dog bite wound while police were left to weigh the legality of the situation. In similar cases, Colorado police have arrested hash oil cookers with “processing or manufacturing marijuana and marijuana concentrate” through a different law. The Telluride Fire Department’s Hazmat Team and sheriff’s office investigators are waiting for a judge to sign a warrant before continuing their investigation, KRDO reported.
The dangers involved with making hash oil in one's home has police worried about what they found in Telluride. According to the Los Angeles Times, there have been at least 31 explosions related to butane and hash oil in Colorado in the past year, during which at least 21 people were injured. “Within the last couple of weeks, the trend has started to generate some attention. Now people are starting to see it’s a little dangerous—it just takes a little spark,” task force director Tom Gorman explained.
One brewer, Corbin Braithwaite, was hospitalized because of injuries sustained in the explosion of his kitchen manufacturing operations. “I wasn’t even playing with fire,” Braithwaite told police, the LA Times reported.*The Colorado resident had his mustaches, goatee, and arm hair burnt off in the explosion. A window blew out, walls cracks, and flames engulfed the room. Luckily, no one was seriously hurt, but Braithwaite was hit with various charges, including arson and child abuse, since his two children, aged 5 months and 4 years old, were home at the time.
Butane, the gas predominately used to manufacture hash oil, is an odorless gas that is heavier than air. It is able to travel along the floor for large distances, and without proper ventilation it can linger. All it takes is a spark to ignite the room.
Hash oil is known as the most potent form of cannabis on the planet. Marijuana smokers have been making hash oil, using solvents such as butane or ethyl alcohol for some time now. The process*involves taking an empty tube, usually made from aluminum, glass, or steel, and packing it with pot leaves. A coffee filter is put on one end and a rubber stopper on the other. Butane is then injected into the tube, and its low temperature crystallizes the cannabis resins and makes them extractable.*
"It seems like a relatively recent trend of people who have figured out how to turn a benign plant into an explosive." See results of explosions and burns below.
http://www.google.com/search?q=2nd+...7Aqa_2QXS04CoDQ&ved=0CCcQsAQ&biw=1345&bih=841
Hash Oil Operation Busted After Pit Bull Bites Owner's Penis, Prompting Police Response
By Dana Dovey | May 8, 2014 05:17 PM EDT
Police discover hash oil manufacturing operation after following up on a call reporting a dog bite injury. Photo courtesy of Shutterstock
A butane hash oil laboratory in Telluride, Colo., was exposed when the suspect called emergency services after a pit bull bit his penis. Upon arriving at the residence, police reported seeing large amounts of blood, along with an array of butane bottles, several trays of suspected hash oil, and other potentially dangerous materials. *A hash oil operation is dangerous, so authorities are investigating whether it breaks any Colorado state laws. *
Colorado is famous for its legalization of recreational marijuana. However, creating hash oil in your home does not fit into the law as clearly. “These marijuana oil extraction operations are extremely dangerous … [but] there is some debate by our legal advisors if the operations are in fact illegal,” San Miguel County Sheriff Bill Masters explained, The Huffington Post*reported.
The individual was taken to the hospital for his dog bite wound while police were left to weigh the legality of the situation. In similar cases, Colorado police have arrested hash oil cookers with “processing or manufacturing marijuana and marijuana concentrate” through a different law. The Telluride Fire Department’s Hazmat Team and sheriff’s office investigators are waiting for a judge to sign a warrant before continuing their investigation, KRDO reported.
The dangers involved with making hash oil in one's home has police worried about what they found in Telluride. According to the Los Angeles Times, there have been at least 31 explosions related to butane and hash oil in Colorado in the past year, during which at least 21 people were injured. “Within the last couple of weeks, the trend has started to generate some attention. Now people are starting to see it’s a little dangerous—it just takes a little spark,” task force director Tom Gorman explained.
One brewer, Corbin Braithwaite, was hospitalized because of injuries sustained in the explosion of his kitchen manufacturing operations. “I wasn’t even playing with fire,” Braithwaite told police, the LA Times reported.*The Colorado resident had his mustaches, goatee, and arm hair burnt off in the explosion. A window blew out, walls cracks, and flames engulfed the room. Luckily, no one was seriously hurt, but Braithwaite was hit with various charges, including arson and child abuse, since his two children, aged 5 months and 4 years old, were home at the time.
Butane, the gas predominately used to manufacture hash oil, is an odorless gas that is heavier than air. It is able to travel along the floor for large distances, and without proper ventilation it can linger. All it takes is a spark to ignite the room.
Hash oil is known as the most potent form of cannabis on the planet. Marijuana smokers have been making hash oil, using solvents such as butane or ethyl alcohol for some time now. The process*involves taking an empty tube, usually made from aluminum, glass, or steel, and packing it with pot leaves. A coffee filter is put on one end and a rubber stopper on the other. Butane is then injected into the tube, and its low temperature crystallizes the cannabis resins and makes them extractable.*
"It seems like a relatively recent trend of people who have figured out how to turn a benign plant into an explosive." See results of explosions and burns below.
http://www.google.com/search?q=2nd+...7Aqa_2QXS04CoDQ&ved=0CCcQsAQ&biw=1345&bih=841
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http://www.kolotv.com/news/headlines/Apartment-Explosion-May-Be-Related-to-Hash-Oil-258549091.html
Apartment Explosion May Be Related to Hash Oil
RENO, NV - Reno police and firefighters are investigating an explosion at an apartment complex Thursday afternoon.
The explosion happened shortly after 3PM at the Balfour Place Apartments in the 2300 block of Harvard Way near Costco.
Police say it may be connected to hash oil, which would make at least five the number of fires and explosions resulting from hash oil extraction recently in our area.
Hash oil is extracted with butane from parts of marijuana plants, leading to a potent, concentrated form of THC.
Police say one person was extracting the hash oil. She sustained injuries to her arm and her face. She is being treated for burns.
Two other people were in the apartment at the time, but police say it doesn't look like they were hurt.
No other apartments were damaged, and any flames were out before firefighters got there.
"It seems like a relatively recent trend of people who have figured out how to turn a benign plant into an explosive."
http://www.google.com/search?q=2nd+...7Aqa_2QXS04CoDQ&ved=0CCcQsAQ&biw=1345&bih=841
Apartment Explosion May Be Related to Hash Oil
RENO, NV - Reno police and firefighters are investigating an explosion at an apartment complex Thursday afternoon.
The explosion happened shortly after 3PM at the Balfour Place Apartments in the 2300 block of Harvard Way near Costco.
Police say it may be connected to hash oil, which would make at least five the number of fires and explosions resulting from hash oil extraction recently in our area.
Hash oil is extracted with butane from parts of marijuana plants, leading to a potent, concentrated form of THC.
Police say one person was extracting the hash oil. She sustained injuries to her arm and her face. She is being treated for burns.
Two other people were in the apartment at the time, but police say it doesn't look like they were hurt.
No other apartments were damaged, and any flames were out before firefighters got there.
"It seems like a relatively recent trend of people who have figured out how to turn a benign plant into an explosive."
http://www.google.com/search?q=2nd+...7Aqa_2QXS04CoDQ&ved=0CCcQsAQ&biw=1345&bih=841
http://articles.sun-sentinel.com/20...se-20140506_1_house-explodes-2-flee-explosion
2 flee after West Boca pot grow house explodes, deputies say
The explosion of a suspected pot grow house that rocked a West Boca neighborhood sent the two residents of the home scrambling to escape, a mad rush that was caught on home surveillance video.
The pair, a man and a woman, left the house in the 22100 block of Southwest 62nd Avenue so quickly after the 5 a.m. blast that they left behind their dog, a bull mastiff.
"It sounded like something hit the house," said resident Dan McGuire, who lives across the street. Outside, he discovered that his home was fine but that the home across the street had windows blown out.
Grow house experts say a number of things could have caused the explosion.
It could have been an electrical overload, a blast from propane that is sometimes used inside grow houses, or even butane, which is used to help extract oil from marijuana plants.
Sometimes, shoddy electric wiring and intense heat from lights can turn the homes into ticking time bombs, police and other experts say.
Darren D. Shull, a criminal defense attorney in Palm Beach County, said the tremendous amounts of electricity used to light and cool a grow house can cause people to steal electricity through buried lines or use alternative power sources like propane tanks or natural gas.
The explosion could have also been caused by butane if it was being used to extract oil.
"It's usually hand-held butane and if the flame goes out and you leave that running, the gas can fill a room and cause an explosion," said Shull.
Melody Handy lives next door to the grow house and said the couple moved in around Christmas and said the house was under foreclosure before the latest neighbors moved in.
County real estate records show the home was purchased by 62nd Ave Holdings LLC in April 2013 for $112,900. No one from the company could be reached for comment Tuesday. The identities of the people staying in the house is not known.
Emma Silverman said she, her husband and 4-year-old son were all sleeping when the explosion happened. She returned to bed but when her dog started growling, she got back up.
"I looked out my window and I could see somebody walking up and down my property and I said to my husband, "There's someone out there.' "
Surveillance video from neighbor Mignonne Jean-Pierre, who lives next door to the home that exploded, shows a man and woman scrambling and putting something in a car parked in the house's driveway right after the explosion.
The dog they abandoned was picked up by Palm Beach Animal Care & Control.
Miami-Dade County had far and away the highest number of indoor grow house sites in the state in 2013 with 180 discovered according to a report from the state Office of Agriculture Law Enforcement. Orange County had the second highest with 28 sites found.
Broward was fifth in the state with 25 and Palm Beach County was seventh with 22 sites. The report cites Florida's warm climate and vast rural woodlands as creating a "fertile environment for criminals."
In this case, the suspected grow house was located in suburban development called Sandalfoot Cove. Many of the homes are occupied by families with children. Although it may seem an unusual spot for an illegal operation, Shull says it had some advantages for the growers.
"It's much easier now to just be hiding in plain view. With everyone moving around, you don't know what's what," Shull said.
"It seems like a relatively recent trend of people who have figured out how to turn a benign plant into an explosive." Burn pictures below.
http://www.google.com/search?q=2nd+...7Aqa_2QXS04CoDQ&ved=0CCcQsAQ&biw=1345&bih=841
2 flee after West Boca pot grow house explodes, deputies say
The explosion of a suspected pot grow house that rocked a West Boca neighborhood sent the two residents of the home scrambling to escape, a mad rush that was caught on home surveillance video.
The pair, a man and a woman, left the house in the 22100 block of Southwest 62nd Avenue so quickly after the 5 a.m. blast that they left behind their dog, a bull mastiff.
"It sounded like something hit the house," said resident Dan McGuire, who lives across the street. Outside, he discovered that his home was fine but that the home across the street had windows blown out.
Grow house experts say a number of things could have caused the explosion.
It could have been an electrical overload, a blast from propane that is sometimes used inside grow houses, or even butane, which is used to help extract oil from marijuana plants.
Sometimes, shoddy electric wiring and intense heat from lights can turn the homes into ticking time bombs, police and other experts say.
Darren D. Shull, a criminal defense attorney in Palm Beach County, said the tremendous amounts of electricity used to light and cool a grow house can cause people to steal electricity through buried lines or use alternative power sources like propane tanks or natural gas.
The explosion could have also been caused by butane if it was being used to extract oil.
"It's usually hand-held butane and if the flame goes out and you leave that running, the gas can fill a room and cause an explosion," said Shull.
Melody Handy lives next door to the grow house and said the couple moved in around Christmas and said the house was under foreclosure before the latest neighbors moved in.
County real estate records show the home was purchased by 62nd Ave Holdings LLC in April 2013 for $112,900. No one from the company could be reached for comment Tuesday. The identities of the people staying in the house is not known.
Emma Silverman said she, her husband and 4-year-old son were all sleeping when the explosion happened. She returned to bed but when her dog started growling, she got back up.
"I looked out my window and I could see somebody walking up and down my property and I said to my husband, "There's someone out there.' "
Surveillance video from neighbor Mignonne Jean-Pierre, who lives next door to the home that exploded, shows a man and woman scrambling and putting something in a car parked in the house's driveway right after the explosion.
The dog they abandoned was picked up by Palm Beach Animal Care & Control.
Miami-Dade County had far and away the highest number of indoor grow house sites in the state in 2013 with 180 discovered according to a report from the state Office of Agriculture Law Enforcement. Orange County had the second highest with 28 sites found.
Broward was fifth in the state with 25 and Palm Beach County was seventh with 22 sites. The report cites Florida's warm climate and vast rural woodlands as creating a "fertile environment for criminals."
In this case, the suspected grow house was located in suburban development called Sandalfoot Cove. Many of the homes are occupied by families with children. Although it may seem an unusual spot for an illegal operation, Shull says it had some advantages for the growers.
"It's much easier now to just be hiding in plain view. With everyone moving around, you don't know what's what," Shull said.
"It seems like a relatively recent trend of people who have figured out how to turn a benign plant into an explosive." Burn pictures below.
http://www.google.com/search?q=2nd+...7Aqa_2QXS04CoDQ&ved=0CCcQsAQ&biw=1345&bih=841
It may be pushing it, but maybe people considering blasting or other, should see photo's. It was not BHO (that I know) but Tosh.0 showed head with no skin, alive.
This is not propaganda!!!!! People are dying, and far worse everyday, on West coast.
Here the local news is about heroine/oxycoton deaths.
Thank You Jump/Injack, for your commitment, to education!!!!
This is not propaganda!!!!! People are dying, and far worse everyday, on West coast.
Here the local news is about heroine/oxycoton deaths.
Thank You Jump/Injack, for your commitment, to education!!!!
http://www.krem.com/news/258719961.html
WHITMAN COUNTY, Wash. -- A traffic stop in Whitman County lead a drug task force to a type of drug that is becoming more common and it is dangerous.
A search of the car turned up several pounds of marijuana and a potent form of the drug called hash oil. Hash oil is a powerful extract from the plant. Some say it produces a much stronger high.
You can find many videos online on how to use butane to extract hash oil from marijuana. It is a new and fast method of getting the oil but it is also explosive.
Stories have appeared across the country of explosions resulting from the attempt to extract hash oil.
Sheriff Deputies in San Leandro, California said a butane tank blew up while a couple tried to make hash oil in their tent.
In Colorado, fire departments have rushed to the scene of more than 30 hash oil extract related butane explosions since marijuana became legal.
Last August in Spokane, authorities said a man using a similar method while driving his car caused an explosion that injured him and his daughter.
The Whitman County Sheriff’s Office could not say if the two men arrested Thursday made the hash oil themselves but suspect it is likely.
"It seems like a relatively recent trend of people who have figured out how to turn a benign plant into an explosive."
Burn pictures of 2nd and 3rd Degree, within the fireball of a butane explosion the heat reaches over 3000 degree, enough to melt steel or melt your eyeballs: see below.
http://www.google.com/search?q=2nd+...7Aqa_2QXS04CoDQ&ved=0CCcQsAQ&biw=1345&bih=841
http://skunkpharmresearch.com/butane-safety/
WHITMAN COUNTY, Wash. -- A traffic stop in Whitman County lead a drug task force to a type of drug that is becoming more common and it is dangerous.
A search of the car turned up several pounds of marijuana and a potent form of the drug called hash oil. Hash oil is a powerful extract from the plant. Some say it produces a much stronger high.
You can find many videos online on how to use butane to extract hash oil from marijuana. It is a new and fast method of getting the oil but it is also explosive.
Stories have appeared across the country of explosions resulting from the attempt to extract hash oil.
Sheriff Deputies in San Leandro, California said a butane tank blew up while a couple tried to make hash oil in their tent.
In Colorado, fire departments have rushed to the scene of more than 30 hash oil extract related butane explosions since marijuana became legal.
Last August in Spokane, authorities said a man using a similar method while driving his car caused an explosion that injured him and his daughter.
The Whitman County Sheriff’s Office could not say if the two men arrested Thursday made the hash oil themselves but suspect it is likely.
"It seems like a relatively recent trend of people who have figured out how to turn a benign plant into an explosive."
Burn pictures of 2nd and 3rd Degree, within the fireball of a butane explosion the heat reaches over 3000 degree, enough to melt steel or melt your eyeballs: see below.
http://www.google.com/search?q=2nd+...7Aqa_2QXS04CoDQ&ved=0CCcQsAQ&biw=1345&bih=841
http://skunkpharmresearch.com/butane-safety/
Wish we knew what type of extraction, per disaster/fatality!!!!
Do not want to be biased, but age, and if indoor?
I have zero tolerance, for stupidity, in this matter.
If it can not be done to FDA standards, pay someone, or do not do it!!!!
Do not want to be biased, but age, and if indoor?
I have zero tolerance, for stupidity, in this matter.
If it can not be done to FDA standards, pay someone, or do not do it!!!!
