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Best tropical vacation island w/ cannabis?
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My lovely lady and I are thinking about a 3-4 week trip some place warm and wonderful. We're thinking about Negril... but damn bro... The way you describe Columbia... and the pics sure have me giving strong consideration to your area.
Smoke and fungus would be high on my list of things to explore... I remember the Columbian Gold of the early and mid 70s. It's still some of the best herb I've ever had and sure would love to experience her again.
I'd love to explore the country and get to know the people. Sadly, my Spanish is next to none.
Mais-
Smoke and fungus would be high on my list of things to explore... I remember the Columbian Gold of the early and mid 70s. It's still some of the best herb I've ever had and sure would love to experience her again.
I'd love to explore the country and get to know the people. Sadly, my Spanish is next to none.
Mais-
redrider
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You and your lady will find Cartagena VERY romantic, it is a city (over 500 years old) of lovers. They have a park there that is known for two going in and three coming out. Great weed (real Colombian Reds & Golds, buyers market) and shroomys I don't do but I am sure they are there and easy to obtain. In Cartagena you don't need too much spanish but outside the city its all spanish (this might be the only drawback you might have in traveling around the country). Dude when the sunsets on the Caribbean and the light falls on the city's ancient spainsh buildings the colors change (without drugs) and the beauty over whelms you. Just the "vibe" of the city is up and happy with a driving Caribbean beat that with the warm tropical breezes makes for romance. Lots of people go to Jamaica and it is great and they do speak a form of english there but Cartagena is really off the beaten path and your stay there is REALLY appreciated.
Peace from Colombia
Peace from Colombia
Papa Legba said:
hmmmm - as a traveller I can't agree with you there fella
you can buy fine fine smoke, be it herb or hash / charas, of as good as, or better quality in every smoking country I have been to... in fact pretty much every country
and I include in that so-called "Third World" countries
over the years I've smoked in god knows how many different places, and I can only think of two occasions on which I have ended up buying second rate weed ... once in Golden Triangle in North Laos, and once in Darjeeling
it seems a lot of people overlook the fact that large parts of Asia and Africa have growing traditions that date back centuries, even millenia
kind of puts some Western strains and curing techniques in perspective
the truly epic smokes and highs I have experienced have without exception been from smoking landrace weed and hashish
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Papa Legba
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I am not trying to speak down on "third world" countries or the techniques they use. I was just commenting on the question of best tropical island with cannabis.
Ill explain my point of view better.
I am from California. I have smoked and grown many imported varieties of cannabis and have been around cannabis my whole life. Also I have traveled and smoked in several other countries, I've seen a few jungles and a few tropical paradises. I have some experience
Now for the most part where I am from the majority of imported herb is from Mexico, there are a few different grades that come through. Some good some bad some are very special. But in general the mexican is referred to as schwag these days, because there are so many high quality domestics available which are more appealing to the immediate senses. Although not necessarily better the domestic is preferred by most. Now for me, I like to have some fine sativa around and keep some good Mex in my stash along with the indicas and hash. In my opinion the curing techniques of cannabis are one of the great accomplishments of the west. Right after pulling the males.
I smoked in most of the countries I have been to (no Malaysia and no Singapore) and have no complaints. The charas from Nepal and India are extraordinary and some of my best memories in life involve being on the slow boat on the Mekong River with my harmonica in one hand and a fat joint in the other, feeling free. Even though I want to tell everyone to fly strait to some exotic location, get on the bus for 12 hours, jump strait off and get weird with the locals high on stuff so you can have epiphanies like me. I'm not going to. Not right now. Because the question was Best island with cannabis and to me that asks "How can someone with a couple of weeks to myself enjoy the coconut beach high life" and from my experience that balance is in Hawaii still. Its no better than the other locations mentioned there are beautiful beaches all over the world where you can smoke, I just think the Hawaiian I smoked when I lived there is so spectacular, I have to recommend it. It is still out there too, the same stuff. It makes its way back to me every once in a while and it is always awe inspiring.
I didnt intend to slander anyones weed either. I'd love to smoke all your weed.
I also grow and maintain a few landrace strains. They are my special girls.
Ill explain my point of view better.
I am from California. I have smoked and grown many imported varieties of cannabis and have been around cannabis my whole life. Also I have traveled and smoked in several other countries, I've seen a few jungles and a few tropical paradises. I have some experience
Now for the most part where I am from the majority of imported herb is from Mexico, there are a few different grades that come through. Some good some bad some are very special. But in general the mexican is referred to as schwag these days, because there are so many high quality domestics available which are more appealing to the immediate senses. Although not necessarily better the domestic is preferred by most. Now for me, I like to have some fine sativa around and keep some good Mex in my stash along with the indicas and hash. In my opinion the curing techniques of cannabis are one of the great accomplishments of the west. Right after pulling the males.
I smoked in most of the countries I have been to (no Malaysia and no Singapore) and have no complaints. The charas from Nepal and India are extraordinary and some of my best memories in life involve being on the slow boat on the Mekong River with my harmonica in one hand and a fat joint in the other, feeling free. Even though I want to tell everyone to fly strait to some exotic location, get on the bus for 12 hours, jump strait off and get weird with the locals high on stuff so you can have epiphanies like me. I'm not going to. Not right now. Because the question was Best island with cannabis and to me that asks "How can someone with a couple of weeks to myself enjoy the coconut beach high life" and from my experience that balance is in Hawaii still. Its no better than the other locations mentioned there are beautiful beaches all over the world where you can smoke, I just think the Hawaiian I smoked when I lived there is so spectacular, I have to recommend it. It is still out there too, the same stuff. It makes its way back to me every once in a while and it is always awe inspiring.
I didnt intend to slander anyones weed either. I'd love to smoke all your weed.
I also grow and maintain a few landrace strains. They are my special girls.
hey bro, I don't doubt for a moment that there is mighty fine weed to be had in Hawaii
I smoked some very nice Mexican and so on in California and have a very high regard for American herb on the basis of what I have smoked
just on the basis of my experience what you said about expecting landrace smoke to look like schwag is completely wrong... some the most impeccably presented weed I bought was in India, as it happens, and also Thailand
your point about Western traditions intoducing the technique for removing males is miles out btw, thank goodness
and I still think sweat fermentation techniques produce the strongest most psychedelic smoke
still, regarding tropical islands for smoking:
La Reunion - there was a recent epidemic there mind, and likewise I have only got second hand info from a friend who went... but there is a whole religious culture there based around ganja, and with it a history of growing that is eminent in the extreme
Jamaica - and btw the browner the weed, the better IME ... cf. Little Roy "with the greenest 'erb trees, with the brownest Kali weed..."
based around the Psalm "the Lord is my shepherd I shall not weep, he lays me down to sleep in pastures green eternally etc."
and yes, epiphany is indeed the word with some of that stuff ... you know, you just have to look at some of those Rastas' faces when they are toking - distant gaze of epistemological upheaval - and they smoke that shit for breakfast everyday...
lol - enjoy
Namkha
I smoked some very nice Mexican and so on in California and have a very high regard for American herb on the basis of what I have smoked
just on the basis of my experience what you said about expecting landrace smoke to look like schwag is completely wrong... some the most impeccably presented weed I bought was in India, as it happens, and also Thailand
your point about Western traditions intoducing the technique for removing males is miles out btw, thank goodness
and I still think sweat fermentation techniques produce the strongest most psychedelic smoke
still, regarding tropical islands for smoking:
La Reunion - there was a recent epidemic there mind, and likewise I have only got second hand info from a friend who went... but there is a whole religious culture there based around ganja, and with it a history of growing that is eminent in the extreme
Jamaica - and btw the browner the weed, the better IME ... cf. Little Roy "with the greenest 'erb trees, with the brownest Kali weed..."
based around the Psalm "the Lord is my shepherd I shall not weep, he lays me down to sleep in pastures green eternally etc."
and yes, epiphany is indeed the word with some of that stuff ... you know, you just have to look at some of those Rastas' faces when they are toking - distant gaze of epistemological upheaval - and they smoke that shit for breakfast everyday...
lol - enjoy
Namkha
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Papa Legba
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If you have a preference for brown and seedy, great!
When you come to visit I wont have to open my jars of non sweat cured, sticky, stinky, herb.
We will just go smoke some stuff that was grown and cured like a bale of straw since its so strong and psychedelic.
When you come to visit I wont have to open my jars of non sweat cured, sticky, stinky, herb.
We will just go smoke some stuff that was grown and cured like a bale of straw since its so strong and psychedelic.
now now, lol
maybe we are simply talking on the basis of different experiences...
there is traditionally cured weed, and there is import which has spent half its life being treated like sileage, and the other in a wheel arch or whatever
the analogy with preparing tobacco such as for cigars etc. surely sheds some light on what I am getting it... i.e. the difference between a fine Havana, where the leaves have undergone a long and controlled cure, and uncured green Burmese cigars, which are an "acquired taste" so to speak
but yeh, ultimately it is just a question of personal and cultural taste, and for me the really pleasing aromas are those of traditionally cured sensi such as smoked by genuine Rastas in Jamaica, or authentic Thai and so on
IMHO that is how to bring out the full potential in the resins and a deeper high, with a good oldworld strain... as I expect you have heard others say before
I'm not saying I don't like the modern styles of weed btw, just questioning whether they can necessarily be considered an improvement or advancement on more traditional strains and preparations ... I would say some of the more superficially alluring strains definitely not
on a chemical level, I think there is good reason to believe that a complex resin profile has as much to do with the nature and strength of effect as say the actual quantity of THC in itself ...
and that is one of the rationales behind sweat/fermentation curing, as is the fact that chlorophyl breaks down better in a humid environment, and other of the harsher components are also mellowed with the aging process...
at the end of the day, as a general principal, I think there are often sound reaons underpinning more traditional ways of cultivating and preparing plants... not to say they are always "right" or ones that are wise to emulate, but neither are they necessarily misguided
and to get back on track: I think La Reunion would provide and excellent example of what I am getting at... traditionally most households will have a number of different types of plant, as part of the religion on the island, and there is quite an array of different techniques as part of growing and curing
e.g. certain strains will be companion planted with mango, or in lemon groves etc., and there is another technique involving curing buds on the plant and so producing a very potent smoke, and so on
"Zamal", from what I hear means "mango", or "carrot", and is just one of the many traditional varieties on La Reunuion...
there is more discussion of this on Frecnh and Spanish forums
maybe we are simply talking on the basis of different experiences...
there is traditionally cured weed, and there is import which has spent half its life being treated like sileage, and the other in a wheel arch or whatever
the analogy with preparing tobacco such as for cigars etc. surely sheds some light on what I am getting it... i.e. the difference between a fine Havana, where the leaves have undergone a long and controlled cure, and uncured green Burmese cigars, which are an "acquired taste" so to speak
but yeh, ultimately it is just a question of personal and cultural taste, and for me the really pleasing aromas are those of traditionally cured sensi such as smoked by genuine Rastas in Jamaica, or authentic Thai and so on
IMHO that is how to bring out the full potential in the resins and a deeper high, with a good oldworld strain... as I expect you have heard others say before
I'm not saying I don't like the modern styles of weed btw, just questioning whether they can necessarily be considered an improvement or advancement on more traditional strains and preparations ... I would say some of the more superficially alluring strains definitely not
on a chemical level, I think there is good reason to believe that a complex resin profile has as much to do with the nature and strength of effect as say the actual quantity of THC in itself ...
and that is one of the rationales behind sweat/fermentation curing, as is the fact that chlorophyl breaks down better in a humid environment, and other of the harsher components are also mellowed with the aging process...
at the end of the day, as a general principal, I think there are often sound reaons underpinning more traditional ways of cultivating and preparing plants... not to say they are always "right" or ones that are wise to emulate, but neither are they necessarily misguided
and to get back on track: I think La Reunion would provide and excellent example of what I am getting at... traditionally most households will have a number of different types of plant, as part of the religion on the island, and there is quite an array of different techniques as part of growing and curing
e.g. certain strains will be companion planted with mango, or in lemon groves etc., and there is another technique involving curing buds on the plant and so producing a very potent smoke, and so on
"Zamal", from what I hear means "mango", or "carrot", and is just one of the many traditional varieties on La Reunuion...
there is more discussion of this on Frecnh and Spanish forums
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Papa Legba
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I was just poking at you. 
If you were my guest, of course I would treat you to my finest.
I respect your preference. I have several landrace strains I collected from their country of origin (except for my Persian strains which were gifted by a friend when he went to visit his family). Much risk and love has gone into acquiring these genetics. I've grown them all and the results are always high quality.
Having smoked most of the herb the seeds came from and then growing the seeds in a completely different environment than they came from. Chances are my plants are not as well off as their mother since it is not adapted to its new home. Although in my opinion the results of my plants were far tastier more pleasant smelling with more resin than the original sample. I feel the cure is the key to it all. I feel like if in places like Jamaica for example were practicing the modern cure (the only change I would like to make). Then we would really see how potent and fantastic Jamaican herb can be. I know, you prefer the traditional methods and I would never want to step on anyones traditions, just this one thing needs to change.
There is good reason for it too. I realize that tobacco is fermented and it mellows the flavor and makes it smoother to smoke. But tobacco taste like shit, and it needs all the help it can it can get, I guess thats what hash is for. But cannabis on the other hand displays so many delicious aromas. Why destroy that by curing it too wet and giving perfect conditions for colonies of bacteria to degrade the plant matter and the resins until its decomposing and brown. Even if it has been done that way for thousands of years. A good cure should really only decompose the chlorophyl mostly. Leaving all the plants natural goodness in tact which is I think better smoke better potency and better for you and its closer to the way nature gives it to us.
One traditional method I wish I did see more of is the Nepalese hash methods where the plant is rubbed while still wet. Hand rub hash is my absolute favorite.
If you were my guest, of course I would treat you to my finest.
I respect your preference. I have several landrace strains I collected from their country of origin (except for my Persian strains which were gifted by a friend when he went to visit his family). Much risk and love has gone into acquiring these genetics. I've grown them all and the results are always high quality.
Having smoked most of the herb the seeds came from and then growing the seeds in a completely different environment than they came from. Chances are my plants are not as well off as their mother since it is not adapted to its new home. Although in my opinion the results of my plants were far tastier more pleasant smelling with more resin than the original sample. I feel the cure is the key to it all. I feel like if in places like Jamaica for example were practicing the modern cure (the only change I would like to make). Then we would really see how potent and fantastic Jamaican herb can be. I know, you prefer the traditional methods and I would never want to step on anyones traditions, just this one thing needs to change.
There is good reason for it too. I realize that tobacco is fermented and it mellows the flavor and makes it smoother to smoke. But tobacco taste like shit, and it needs all the help it can it can get, I guess thats what hash is for. But cannabis on the other hand displays so many delicious aromas. Why destroy that by curing it too wet and giving perfect conditions for colonies of bacteria to degrade the plant matter and the resins until its decomposing and brown. Even if it has been done that way for thousands of years. A good cure should really only decompose the chlorophyl mostly. Leaving all the plants natural goodness in tact which is I think better smoke better potency and better for you and its closer to the way nature gives it to us.
One traditional method I wish I did see more of is the Nepalese hash methods where the plant is rubbed while still wet. Hand rub hash is my absolute favorite.
mmm but if it is done with a good traditional cure it shouldn't smell unpleasant, let alone less -
as with tea when it has been fermented appropriately it should smell more, and develop yet more complex, deeper, richer smells - and above all should smell better ...
... properly funky medicinal herbal smells can emerge - and the colours can get more complex too
same applies with hashish... re. traditional preparation, that is
I expect the most important things when it comes to making charas are strong hands and patience
as with tea when it has been fermented appropriately it should smell more, and develop yet more complex, deeper, richer smells - and above all should smell better ...
... properly funky medicinal herbal smells can emerge - and the colours can get more complex too
same applies with hashish... re. traditional preparation, that is
I expect the most important things when it comes to making charas are strong hands and patience
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Papa Legba
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This discussion reminded me of some Hawaiian that was coming around in '96. I remember my friends were raving about how great it was, so I had to find out for myself. My first impression was disappointment, It cost me as top dollar and when I got it, it was commercial grade, golden brown with a few seeds, not pressed but a little compact from packaging and shipping. But I was pleasantly surprised, as I found the smoke was potent and delicious to the last toke. I continued to smoke it for as long as it was available. I grew the seeds it gave me and people to this very day tell me its the best I have ever grown. Sadly, I no longer maintain this strain and only grew her for a few generations.
While I was in Thailand I ran into some similar herb that reminded my of this Hawaiian, lightly pressed, deeper brown and more earthy than the Hawaiian. The buds were thick for a sativa and no seeds. I was really hoping to find a few seeds in her because the high was powerful. There was lots of strong weed in Asia that I did get seeds from so everything worked out on that end.
So here I am recognizing a few examples of brown weed I've known and loved.
Its good for what ails ya
But if I could have it my way.........................
I guess thats why I grow my own
While you travel its like, When in Rome, smoke what the Romans smoke. Like it or not.
OK end of rant. For now.
While I was in Thailand I ran into some similar herb that reminded my of this Hawaiian, lightly pressed, deeper brown and more earthy than the Hawaiian. The buds were thick for a sativa and no seeds. I was really hoping to find a few seeds in her because the high was powerful. There was lots of strong weed in Asia that I did get seeds from so everything worked out on that end.
So here I am recognizing a few examples of brown weed I've known and loved.
Its good for what ails ya
But if I could have it my way.........................
I guess thats why I grow my own
While you travel its like, When in Rome, smoke what the Romans smoke. Like it or not.
OK end of rant. For now.
Fantomas
Member
redrider said:
You ve been saying something like you can find "everything" there, what about acid
no really can you find acid there?There are shrooms? What kind are they columbian p cubes? Anyway you got mer all on the edge of me seat with all the beaches and porn and drug advertsiment, gotta go there for sure
Fantomas
Member
Papa Legba said:
This thread is a real treasure. Holidays one of the best pleasures we can have and if you love travelleing like me its your ideal hobby as well...
Whats that ORANGE Hawaian buds you said? I met a friend years ago who was raving on and on about orange bud in Fiji. He smoked that shit non stop and it made him laugh like crazy, he said all two weeks he was there he was laughing. Orange weed is good.
G
Guest
misspelled link
misspelled link
If you go to Jamaica go to Nergil and contact Rasta John and do the Ganja field tour, I cant say I've done it myself but I plan on taking the tour one day, You can buy weed from the growers heres the link.
www.nothinbut.net/~rjohn/ganja.html
misspelled link
If you go to Jamaica go to Nergil and contact Rasta John and do the Ganja field tour, I cant say I've done it myself but I plan on taking the tour one day, You can buy weed from the growers heres the link.
www.nothinbut.net/~rjohn/ganja.html
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G
Guest
you gonna wear those boots and your "urban camo" pants?
click the link man
click the link man
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dankiestog
dude im there was setting up for Cartagena...but a tour like that thats for real...no shit ...dam
