best strains these days

[DocLeaf]

whilst price is often reflective of the number of hands a product has passed through, hence the number of people that take a cut,, risk in relation to price doesn't really come into it.

it cost the same amount of cash to send seed to Canada, S. Africa, Australia, the USA, the UK or France (in small quantities). the only risk is that the stock might not ever arrive at its destination... (this is always the case).

However, even then, the only difference between HM Customs, and let say US Customs (for example) is that HMCustoms tend to give us our seed stock back whence they've looked at them (courtesy slip attached),,, whereas US Customs dont!

For this reason, many folk refrain from sending seed stock to the US
hope this helps

peace dLeaf

 

[Guest]

Just my thoughts on seed prices, they are like anything else. Not everyone drives a Rolls when they can get great transportation at a fraction of the price however there isn't anything wrong with someone buying a Rolls Royce if that is what they desire.

If I were buying a pack of seeds just to grow out without keeping a Mom they would still be a good deal compared to buying pot. Think about it, even a novice grower should be able to get at least a quarter pound out of one pack, even if that pack was $150 that is still a great deal by todays rates. And if you get that pack to grow out a mom (duh) what you are getting is a lifetime supply of that variety. Not too shabby in my book.

That being said I have never spent more than $40 on a pack of beans and I only spent that much once and that was on RM's Odin's hammer which was not a keeper. The best deal that I think I got was Subcool's Fiesta Mix. For $25 I ended up with moms of Astroboy and Conquistador both very very nice strains. other good deals that I got: SSH f2 -$30, Bubblegum F2- $25, AK x Bubbleberry-$25,Northernberry F2 - $25. Good low price seeds are out there if you want to be frugal but IMO if you have more money and the desire to do so there is nothing wrong with spending more because even at $150 or soin the long run it still should be a great deal. I mean shit, a lifetime supply of Sour Diesel or the like for $150 doesn't sound too shabby to me.

 

[Chamba]

oh yeah ...the old "Mother" defence for high seed prices...lol

if that is so then yoghurt should be $200 a cup shouldn't it?..because you can make more yoghurt...gallons if you want ....forever ...from that little cup of yoghurt


the way i see it....in a perfect world, seed sellers should charge a danger tax to buyers of seeds from the US and to a lesser extent to buyers from countries that ape their policies eg Australia...if it wasn't for the US's war on pot then seed prices would be $5 a packet..I'm surprised Europeans haven't woken up to that

seeds cost a small fortune because they are illegal and the sellers face grave risks to deal in seeds.....but since the risk in Holland or the UK is tiny why should those citizens pay US prices (that include 900%+ risk factored in)

just wondering...

 

[Chamba]

whilst price is often reflective of the number of hands a product has passed through, hence the number of people that take a cut,, risk in relation to price doesn't really come into it.

you have to be joking right?.....of course the risk of jail is why 10 seeds can cost hundreds of dollars..it's nothing to do with middlemen

If the US legalized cannabis seeds much in the same way as the UK or Japan then would you still pay10 bucks a seed? ..of course not..prices would tumble as seed sellers business would increase a 100-fold

 

[vavwl]

When you consider how much it would cost you to buy the amount of weed a pack of seeds gives you its really quite a good deal, plus the weed is a lot better. I payed less for some quality seeds then I would for a 1/2 ounce of shitty weed.

If anyone thinks seeds are to expensive, then just use bag seed. No one makes you buy them.

 

[Centrum]

Im Gonna have to say Cindy and A11, as far as all around releases in the past 5 years.
There have been alot of wonderful crosses and releases, but all around freshness.

People just love it round here.

 

[Guest]

When you consider how much it would cost you to buy the amount of weed a pack of seeds gives you its really quite a good deal, plus the weed is a lot better. I payed less for some quality seeds then I would for a 1/2 ounce of shitty weed.

If anyone thinks seeds are to expensive, then just use bag seed. No one makes you buy them.

My sentiments exactly. I'm on my fifth bag seed grow and I'm starting produce some decent bud, much better than what is commercially available. I was gifted some seeds that turned out to be a beautiful pink indica, very narcotic and couchlocky. The girl that gave me the seeds said they came from weed that had been buried for twenty years and she got the weed six years ago. If this is correct, then the genetics I'm working with are from the late '70's. I only have 5 beans left, but the plant I have growing currently has hermied, so I'll have some S1 seeds. Another of the seeds from that batch is a sweet, skunky, fruity sat pheno which I'm going to pollinate with the hermie indica just to see what turns up. Once I get a good handle on growing and pollinating, I'll order seeds from seedboutique. If there's a strain that I want that costs $200, I'll pay it because that's the way the market works. Seller asks a price, and the buyer can either pay it or go elsewhere. If one is a decent grower, you can make you own seeds and grow for life, as long as the Law doesn't interrupt your plans.

 

[New Grower]

I like these strains (but I grow mostly outdoor):

L.S.D. (BOG)
Sweet Cindy99 (BOG)
SourBubble (BOG)
Taskenti (Cannabiogen)
SourDiesel IBL (from Rez)
Bogglegum (BOG)
Blackberry IBL
God Bud (BC)
AK-47 (Serious)
Deep Chunk IBL (Hill Temple Collective)
Quick Mist (Reservoir Seeds)
Quick Mist Diesel (Reservoir Seeds)
Arjan's Haze#2 (Greenhouse Seeds Co.)
Niagara x Shiva (DR. GREENTHUMB SEEDS, CANADA)
Niagara (DR. GREENTHUMB SEEDS, CANADA)
Endless Sky (DR. GREENTHUMB SEEDS, CANADA)
Grenadine (DR. GREENTHUMB SEEDS, CANADA)
Early Durban (The Flying Dutchman)
Mr Nice G13 x hash plant (Sensi Seeds)
Sensi Star (Paradise Seeds)
Nebula (Paradise Seeds)
Powerhouse (Deep Chunk x C99)
DurbanXSkunk
SkunkXG13 (Mr Nice)
Early Queen (Mr Nice)
Critical Mass (Mr Nice)
Bubblegum (Serious)
the HOG (THSeeds)
Heavy Duty Fruity (THSeeds)
C99 (Female Seeds "XXX Line")
Skunk Kush (Sensi Seeds)
Big Bud (Sensi Seeds)
Burmese Delight (Reeferman Seeds)
Nigerian Nightmare (Reeferman Seeds)
Power Plant (Dutch Passion)
ICE (Nirvana)
Legends Ultimate Indica (Spice of life)
Lavender (Soma)
Kwik Kali (Sagarmatha Seeds)
Bubbleberry (Sagarmatha Seeds)
Blue Grass Seeds - Sudden Impact (mr nice g-13 hp(male)sensi '99 x ak47(cherry pheno) serious seeds '97)
Super Skunk (Sensi Seed Bank)
Mango (Kulu Seeds)
NL#1 (Pukka Seeds)
DannyBoy (Subcool Seeds)
White Russian (Serious Seeds)
MK-Ultra (THSeeds)
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I hope ya also like these!

Peace!

NG

 

[redrider]

Wheres the Speed Queen NG

 

[New Grower]

ohh man! I forgot the SQ!!! but I still haven't got personal experience with the SQ so I can't tell for sure that the Speed Queen is sooo good!

I have some SQ mothers so I hope I can tell more about the SQ in the future.

What is your "Top list" Red??

Regards, NG!

 

[Chamba]

New Grower......have you grown all of those 47 strains?

 

[Gantz]

Endless Sky - it just doesn't get the respect it deserves
Blowfish - it seamed to be the shit before the fall of CW

 

[Chamba]

my absolute fave is a toss up between Leda Uno ..what a wonderful high!..I give it 9 or better out of 10 for all aspects! inspirational uplifting mood elevating high, fast finisher, good yielder, great taste, compact - it's all there (not KC's, it was bought by a friend at Interpolm ..a grow shop opposite the train station in Amsterdam in '94-ish..I think the breeder was called "High Quality" but don't quote me on that..I went to the shop myself a year or so later ..it was my first time in A'dam, and the first shop I walked into to check out grow gear and I saw some Dutch guys openly discussing a deal on a table in the back section of the shop, big kilo bags of buds in clear plastic bags were being handed over nonchallantly like it was a bag of oranges! lol...customers walking around them checking out the ventilation ducts and fans...gotta love Amsterdam!)..though, I wonder how Leda would compare now that I've grown alot more Dutchies?

and of course Gypsy's Zamal .....grown under the tropical sun, with a long cure.....an excellent sativa landrace with a long high duration with a uniqueness and complexity that makes most other strains seem lacking, solo, empty, mono sounding in comparison to the Zamal.....it takes forever and then some to finish ..looks like crap, tastes earthy...but it's the bud I keep reaching for!..a great high!

 

[DocLeaf]

Blowfish

20 pkts of 'Blowfish' were made (or was it 40 can't remember),,, anyhow, the auction price on c-bay started at $400+ for 19 seeds
this dude was smart,,, he'd already taken a mother... lol :wink:

"power and greed, and corruptable seed, seem to be all that there is..." dylan

peace dLeaf

 

[New Grower]

hey Chamba!

I "just" have grown around 10 strains from my top list but I learn/learnt a lot about strains and I think I can be sure in my choices.. I would like to suggest you my pic collection on an other site:

http://www.weedfarmer.com/pictures/v/Collector/

...many, many unbelievable pictures. I have 480 well selected very nice photo on my computer but I haven't got enough time to upload all the pics.. (collected from mostly CW, OG, ICMag).

Peace!

NG

White Russian

 

[Guest]

I would definitely check out subcool's gear. I have Conquistador and Astroboy and they are both very good. The way I'm thinking is that these two strains were part of his Fiesta Mix for $20 and they are very dank indeed so some of his other more expensive gear must be at the minimum very dank also if not better. Shit, just try the fiesta mix, I can't see how you could be disapointed, his Full Melt Mix looks awesome too.

 

[DocLeaf]

you have to be joking right?.....of course the risk of jail is why 10 seeds can cost hundreds of dollars..it's nothing to do with middlemen

oh for real n shit,,,,

listern! here's what is and what isn't true.

seed cost very little to produce (next to nothing infact). breeders make seed. this is what they do :wink:

what costs is the logistics of selling seed; the branding, the advertising, the websites, the office(s), the printing, the baggies, and the mail-order.

the mail-order part is cheap as chips and doesn't warrant the prices that get branded onto packets of erb (which is a plant) no matter in which place dem be sold :wink:

I n I be havin seed from across the new-world,,, n all it be costing dem brethrens is some time n respect :wink:

anyhow, dat be dat,
jah bless
dLeaf

"...bloom some fruit,,, turn the red to blue"

 

[redrider]

Hey NG I really havn't grown enough seedbank seeds to make a choice. However from what I have read your list looks pretty good to me.
Peace

 

[Guest]

oh yeah ...the old "Mother" defence for high seed prices...lol

if that is so then yoghurt should be $200 a cup shouldn't it?..because you can make more yoghurt...gallons if you want ....forever ...from that little cup of yoghurt


the way i see it....in a perfect world, seed sellers should charge a danger tax to buyers of seeds from the US and to a lesser extent to buyers from countries that ape their policies eg Australia...if it wasn't for the US's war on pot then seed prices would be $5 a packet..I'm surprised Europeans haven't woken up to that

seeds cost a small fortune because they are illegal and the sellers face grave risks to deal in seeds.....but since the risk in Holland or the UK is tiny why should those citizens pay US prices (that include 900%+ risk factored in)

just wondering...

hehe, Chamba, fighting the good fight man

couldn't agree more, couldn't agree more

Namkha

 

[Chamba]

Doc wrote "what costs is the logistics of selling seed; the branding, the advertising, the websites, the office(s), the printing, the baggies, and the mail-order."

but don't those costs apply equally to all types of seed or yoghurt?... the only difference between basil seeds @ $3.95 per pack and the average cannabis seeds @ $60 pack (or whatever they are) is that the DEA aren't gonna put you in jail for longer than a manslaughter conviction for selling basil seed....hence the higher cost.

my points are ...you can get great genes from low cost cannabis seeds* ...and ...the reason they cost so much is due to the potential risk of jail for those who sell them..esp to America.

*(and to paraphrase something Gypsy said to me) "great genes are only part of the equation when it comes to the quality of the high ...experienced growers maximise the potential of the genes"

in other words...you could give an average grower a packet of each of the last 3 Cup winners and one pack of plain old Skunk to Soma or other good grower with decades of experience and I bet Soma's bud would be the better smoke with the better high.

but having said that ....I def treat higher cost seed with much more care ..esp when germinating ...than seed I made myself!....my seeds get thrown in a pot of used soil!....while any purchased seeds get the wet tissue treatment, correct temps, perfect moisture, new seedling soil mix etc kid gloves and all! lol

happy growing!