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Janborrego

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May increase potency to take those decarbed flower capsules with a meal, coconut oil, or lecithin so there is some fat for the cannabinoids to bond to so they get absorbed easier by the body.

The method of infusing into coconut oil and lecithin mixture helps improve effectiveness because the cannabinoids are liposomal encapsulated.
I usually take them with coffee in the morning. They last all day
 

CharlesU Farley

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May increase potency to take those decarbed flower capsules with a meal, coconut oil, or lecithin so there is some fat for the cannabinoids to bond to so they get absorbed easier by the body.

The method of infusing into coconut oil and lecithin mixture helps improve effectiveness because the cannabinoids are liposomal encapsulated.
I've tried mixing various oils, including canna oil, with my decarbed buds, as well as lecithin and just haven't been able to tell any difference.

I do what I think most would consider fairly high dose cannabis... one gram of decarbed buds four times a day, everyday, every week, every year... so my ECS is pretty well saturated.

I totally understand the science, but I've just not been able to tell any difference with the addition of oils and/or lecithin.

And rather than using a mortar and pestle, I just use an old Krupps coffee grinder to pulverize/powderize the decarbed buds. Finally retired this one last month, after almost 10 years of loyal service :eek:

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pipeline

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I like using kief for the capsules because it standardizes the dosage. That is a fairly high dosage. How well are the flowers trimmed before grinding?

The buds are about 3 times less potent than the kief according to Brassnwood. I think the soy lecithin really helps it stick to your system. Seems to be long lasting I take 1 size 00 capsule (0.95mL) 1-3 times per day. Usually 2 is a good dosage with some smoking to boost and modify the effect. They last a long time.

I know there is some waste with the dry ice kief extraction, but its pretty thorough and seems to get most of the resin extracted. Have to clean the extraction screen every coulpe rounds brassnwood said. I wasn't doing that and ended up with more green contamination in the last bit of it.

Don't do dry ice extraction too long becuase it can get more contamination.

Bubblebags can be used for dry ice extraction simply by adding dry ice and flower and shaking. I recommend the reciprocating saw method in a bucket to thoroughly collect trichome dust.
 

Janborrego

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I've tried mixing various oils, including canna oil, with my decarbed buds, as well as lecithin and just haven't been able to tell any difference.

I do what I think most would consider fairly high dose cannabis... one gram of decarbed buds four times a day, everyday, every week, every year... so my ECS is pretty well saturated.

I totally understand the science, but I've just not been able to tell any difference with the addition of oils and/or lecithin.

And rather than using a mortar and pestle, I just use an old Krupps coffee grinder to pulverize/powderize the decarb the buds. Finally retired this one last month, after almost 10 years of loyal service :eek:

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I have tried the oil caps with lecithin. They are not as potent. The weed caps send me to the moon but just the moon. I like the moon.
 

pipeline

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May be because of the extra cooking time. To infuse the coconut oil we cook for a total of 35-40 minutes with a freeze in the middle to help homogenize the mix.

@BrassNwood has had experience doing variables with the capsules and he said he likes this method.

Covering during decarb and infusion isn't necessary brassnwood said, but I have seen it recommended by BadKittySmiles and other websites. I think its covered to try to preserve terpenes. Its not necessary and may not really make that much difference. I just wanted to find out what others thought.

If its covered it won't heat up quite as fast, so infusion may be more complete using uncovered vessels.
 

pipeline

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I like the capsules because they seem to medicate well with more of a body effect and less cerebral.

They are plenty potent though, I take 2 a day most days, but it can build up in the system and every once in a while I reduce dosage to 1 just for the day to help reset tolerance and keep the THC from getting too built up in the system.

I take 0.5 mL hemp oil with 1000mg CBD before bed to help with sleep.

I try and space the coconut oil/lecithin capsules out at a 4-6 hour interval, they have effectiveness for about 6 hours.

Badkat said she increases the dose to around 0.5 g kief per capsule. These are about 0.3 g kief per capsule I think it was. So they can be made more concentrated. Can also infuse oil using ground flower, but it can be difficult to draw up into the dropper.
 
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pipeline

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Keep in mind cured flower will have a different cannabinoid profile than fresh flower. Cured may have more relief from what Brassnwood said. But I think he was comparing freshly dried flower to cured instead of a fresh or fresh frozen rosin concentrate. He said a 60 day cure is adequate.

Are you talking about juicing with a blender or something?
 
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Taima-da

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Yes, apparently, in a nutri bullet or similar.
My search returned several threads to this effect but this is the one I was referring to:

 

pipeline

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Thanks for the link!

The CBD hemp tincture I take is a spagyric formula which is made by doing an alcohol extraction then they burn the leftover material into an ash and add it back into the mixture. Its an ancient technique for producing medicine. Similar to juicing, its another kind of "complete" extraction.
 

Janborrego

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May be because of the extra cooking time. To infuse the coconut oil we cook for a total of 35-40 minutes with a freeze in the middle to help homogenize the mix.

@BrassNwood has had experience doing variables with the capsules and he said he likes this method.

Covering during decarb and infusion isn't necessary brassnwood said, but I have seen it recommended by BadKittySmiles and other websites. I think its covered to try to preserve terpenes. Its not necessary and may not really make that much difference. I just wanted to find out what others thought.

If its covered it won't heat up quite as fast, so infusion may be more complete using uncovered vessels.
I decarb in the insta pot., its the easies for me. I use the meat/stew button for 45 minutes. It gets nice and golden brown. It cooks Very evenly as well with no effort.
 

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How to make your own CBD balm
Photo by: Gina Coleman/WeedmapsCBD balms, also called CBD salves, have become popular supplemental treatments for muscle pain, inflammation, and skin conditions.
In this step-by-step guide, you'll learn how to make your own CBD balm at home and how to choose the best ingredients for pain relief.

How do you make your own CBD balm?​

Dr. Melanie Bone, board-certified OB-GYN and cannabis specialist, summed up the process this way: “To make your own CBD balm, you need to put a concentrated form of CBD into a carrier oil such as coconut oil or jojoba oil as well as a beeswax base for structure. After melting these together at low heat (such as the top of a double boiler), the secret sauce is the addition of essential oils and other additives to make it more effective.”
Time needed: 40 minutes
Use the following steps to make your own CBD balm at home.
  1. Gather the ingredients and supplies
    Here are the ingredients you will need to make your own CBD balm:
    1 cup coconut or other carrier oil
    ⅓ cup beeswax
    Full-spectrum CBD concentrate (consult your medical professional about dosage)
    5 drops of the essential oil of your choice
    Few drops of menthol (optional)

    You'll also need the following supplies:
    Saucepan or double boiler (make one by placing a heat-proof bowl over a pot of simmering water)
    Glass jar
    Cheesecloth
  2. Blend the CBD into the oil
    Blend the CBD concentrate into 1 cup of carrier oil
  3. Melt the carrier oil mixture and beeswax
    Turn heat on stovetop to low and melt 1/3 cup of beeswax and the carrier oil mixture in the saucepan or double boiler.
  4. Heat for 25 minutes
    Continue to heat on low for approximately 25 minutes, stirring occasionally if using a double boiler. If using a saucepan with no double boiler, stir frequently to prevent sticking or burning.
  5. Add essential oil(s) and menthol
    Remove the mixture from heat and add essential oil(s) and menthol, if using
  6. Pour mixture through cheesecloth into jar
    Set the cheesecloth over the jar. Taking care not to spill the hot mixture, pour it through the cheesecloth and into the jar.
  7. Seal jar and store
    Seal jar and store in a cool, dark place until ready to use. Do not refrigerate.
When choosing an essential oil for your CBD balm, be aware that different terpenes in essential oils may exert different effects on the body. “For example, using lavender can make the balm more soothing. Adding lemon may help with mood, while peppermint may boost energy,” said Bone.
Proper storage is essential to maintain your CBD balm. “The balm needs to be stored in a container that will neither interact with the product nor allow heat or light in to degrade it,” Bone stated.
Keeping the balm sealed tightly in a glass jar in a cool, dark area should help maintain freshness and potency. Do not refrigerate or freeze CBD balms.

How do you make a pain relief balm?​

Making a pain relief balm involves the same exact steps listed above for a basic CBD balm. The only difference is that you can add certain ingredients reputed to have pain-relieving properties.
cbd balm for pain relief
Photo by: Gina Coleman/WeedmapsThere are some ingredients you can add to a CBD balm to make it potentially more pain-relieving, especially for general muscle aches and conditions like arthritis.
There are some ingredients you can add to a CBD balm to make it potentially more pain-relieving, especially for general muscle aches and conditions like arthritis. “Adding products such as menthol or emu oil can make a product that is good to use on muscle tenderness,” Bone suggested.
  • Menthol is an active ingredient in many pain and muscle relief medications. Derived from different types of mint, menthol has an initial cooling effect on the skin followed by a warming sensation, which can soothe achy muscles.
  • Emu oil contains fatty acids, which may have the ability to decrease pain and inflammation. The oil is made from the fat of the emu, a flightless bird native to Australia.
Other natural ingredients and essential oils may also enhance the pain relief potential of a CBD balm:
  • Ginger is reputed to help with digestive issues. Mixing in some ginger and rubbing on your abdomen could ease stomach cramps.
  • Cloves are frequently used to soothe dental discomfort. You can mix whole cloves or clove essential oil and rub on your jaw if you're experiencing a toothache.
  • Peppermint may help ease headaches, in addition to boosting energy. Blend in some peppermint oil and apply the balm to your temples to ease a tension headache. (Be careful not to get it too close to your eyes.)
CBD balms custom-made for pain relief may offer skin-soothing benefits for psoriasis and eczema thanks to the moisturizing carrier oils employed in the recipe.
 

acespicoli

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Gonna need to make some of these been using this rub on CBD creme for Joint injury it rocks
Anyone else using topical creme THC/CBD ratios ?
Which CBD strains are the best ?
 
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