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Please get the air pump above the water column and the electric off the floor. For your own and all viewers safety!

Extremely tidy grow other than that!
 

Bennyweed1

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Please get the air pump above the water column and the electric off the floor. For your own and all viewers safety!

Extremely tidy grow other than that!

That is the water pump and there is no way with a RDWC to position it off the ground or above the water column for it to circulate correctly. If there was a leak, none of the 1x1 walls are sealed, the water would route directly to the drain. All electric you see are for either fans, or water pumps, which are on the around.

I had my far share of reminders about that....trust me :tiphat:

Thanks though partner.
 

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Kool water temps. Keep air pumps in a window sill mini fridge or outside. Cold air bubbles... Richy rich hydro tea. No light in root zone or airlines.= SUCCESS!
 

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Thought I saw a biege cooling fin of an air pump on the ground in one of your pics. No doubt that water pump can't move. I have mine in a tub that I can fill with ice. Water pump itself heats the water up to 5 additional degrees... Peacer down!
 

Bennyweed1

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Kool water temps. Keep air pumps in a window sill mini fridge or outside. Cold air bubbles... Richy rich hydro tea. No light in root zone or airlines.= SUCCESS!

No saying your right or wrong, but I have used both light proof buckets and none, like seen now for ease of locating and either or, as long as the solution is in check algae seems to stay at bay.

Now if I had a choice, I would like to have black light proof buckets but the price on them locally is $11 a piece. Thats just ridiculous in my book. Eventually I plan on wrapping the buckets with insulation when summer rolls around and the water chiller needs to be fired back up, but for now, I dont see it necessary.

As far as positioning the air pumps far away, you loose a lot of your output do to static pressure if you make your lines to long.

If you make your lines different lengths you also create different output pressures to individual stones. Air will take the path of least resistance. As long as the room is cool, the air being inject will be similarly cool +/- a degree , and during winter, I never get over 68 degrees.

But for realzz, if your air lines have long runs, your really killing your output. Its the same concept with water pumps. Take a 500gph pump and drain your reserv with a 50' garden hose, tell my how much pressure and flow is lost.
 

Bennyweed1

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Thought I saw a biege cooling fin of an air pump on the ground in one of your pics. No doubt that water pump can't move. I have mine in a tub that I can fill with ice. Water pump itself heats the water up to 5 additional degrees... Peacer down!

No your right, but they are not directly on the ground, they are attached to a 2x4 which also helps them form vibrating about.

Someday I will invest in a nice linear pump, but its on the back burner. :thinking:

What size water pump do you have? Im sure it hates up a few liters of water, but given the same amount of heat output dissipated into 20+ gallons and I would imagine heat increase is minimal if at all noticeable.

plus, magdrive pumps are the coolest operating pumps you can use.
 
I agree, especially for soil. I never used bottle nutrients in soil but hydro is a different beast. I use Lucas as of now, but for whatever reason I can't figure out is why my plants always respond negatively to a compete nutrient flush.

I'm am at the point of considering canceling reservoir flushes entirely.

my soil is beasty man with such little nutes its gets most of the nutes with organic material in soil Ocean Forest mixed with worm castings.
 
my roots with Super charge root tonic
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I think the support staff said it best they really look like spider webs. Like with supercharge compared to pictures I have seen with other dwc roots the roots look more WEB like.

The lateral roots are the ones that stick out from tap root I believe I am new to terms like this. Growing cannabis is expanding my vocab : )

but these roots look pretty healthy don't know If u can see with led lights
 

OBLIVION

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Sweet man! I want a nicer air pump but still burning dinosaur bones here. Haha good john cash...

I've found that the 5 gallon black and white poly grow bags fit nice and snug on 5g buckets!

Richy rich hydro tea is the bomb!

All 4 of my big plants were up rooted from organic tea fed coco pots to the uc system with the help from the Richy tea and a new product to me called photosynthesis plus by microbe life... I can't praise that stuff enough. It is the bomb! Like live swamp water from the coasts of the great barrier reef! Shit is alive and thriving in a bottle thanks to the yucca extract ensuring an extended shelf LIFE!

Try a pinch of yucca extract in your teas!

Do you run a bennificial hotel in the UC? I do. Its called an epicenter for life that fights the algae and slime bad guys!

Its a war that's easily victorious unlike the cannabis crusades were all in the midst of!

Epicenter is just another tub filled with lava rocks and no plant in it. Gives the bennes a nice cozy home to battle the slime aka (republicans) ha!
 

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The heat in the water comes from a couple things besides ambient room temp...

Think back to when u were a kid swimming in a pool pond or creek... If you have dark hair think about how hot your head was. Then try and remember that feeling that you got if and when your toes found a nice cool pocket of water way down deep... Didn't feel amazing when your is being torched by the sun but your feet are in cold water helping dissapate the heat...

Think about plants in relation to you! Always find common ground between man and cannabis plants and things will start clicking for you! Were so similar it ain't even funny!

So, think about how good you felt basking the sun but cold water keeping your feet cold to where your blood is acting like antifreeze in a car radiator... Once hot blood from your head/brain is circulated to the feet, the heat in the blood disapates into the cold water deep below the surface.

If you notice the water in the top half of the system is warmer than the water near the floor. Heat rises. Even in water...

Think about ice cold air bubbles floating up into the warm water/root zone! The plant just says ahhhhh! Thank you! That feels good! Just as does to a human in my real world example.

Love. Life. Growth.

Free to own. Free to use. Free to grow. Never surrender what the creator gave you!
 

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I have an 800gph water pump. Definitely correct about psi loss over long runs.

But with the d.o. of the waterfall in my Doser bucket you don't need tons of air.

Also I don't have a chiller. My water from tap is so cold that I just circulate cold water threw a hose in my doser tub then to the pump house tub then to drain. I don't even have to run the chiller some days due to my cold air bubbles and pump house tub.

Can't afford a 400$ chiller plus the 1/2 HP (500watt) minimum to run the chiller...

Do you you do 24hr veg? 20/4? Or 18/6?

Flower? 12/12? Or 11/13?

I do 16/8 veg and 11/13 flower...

It helps with electric bills. Also more of an organic light cycle( outside). And, cuts at least a WEEK off bloom time!!!!!!!!
 

Bennyweed1

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Organics has always been my thing. Before the vert section, I was a organic soil gardener, doing everything from scratch.

When I hear the word organics, I dont picture anything store bought being used in pursuit of that quest. I made my own earth warm castings, and IMO nothing is better then a AACT containing fresh casting, fresh kelp, and fresh alflafa, and a sprinkle of azomite.

My soil was mine boggling and recycled. The list of ingredients was extensive and it truly was a start to finish soil, I miss the simplicity of how well the plants grew them self, that was my favorite part.

But it had its down sides and the biggest issue I was faced with was the constant watering needed to keep the top soil moist and alive. I now have a box full of 30+ blumats....little guys are expensive, but nothing would make me more mad then a air bubble in the line causing a dripping to open up causing a flood..........

Second issue was the constant transplanting and mess soil makes...plus the need to be composting soil and turning it. With out large equipment, its back breaking work that needed to be done every month.

Hydro reliefs alot of those burdens for me but its only down side is how finicky that plants respond to the slightest changes.....but thats really all on me.

I have never messed around with anything organic or living in hydro becuase I have only been doing hydro for 16 months and still mastering the synthetic side of things..soil though......damn ill tell you what.....

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I have an 800gph water pump. Definitely correct about psi loss over long runs.

But with the d.o. of the waterfall in my Doser bucket you don't need tons of air.

Also I don't have a chiller. My water from tap is so cold that I just circulate cold water threw a hose in my doser tub then to the pump house tub then to drain. I don't even have to run the chiller some days due to my cold air bubbles and pump house tub.

Can't afford a 400$ chiller plus the 1/2 HP (500watt) minimum to run the chiller...

Do you you do 24hr veg? 20/4? Or 18/6?

Flower? 12/12? Or 11/13?

I do 16/8 veg and 11/13 flower...

It helps with electric bills. Also more of an organic light cycle( outside). And, cuts at least a WEEK off bloom time!!!!!!!!

I start off with 24 hours myself for two weeks and then switch to 18/6

flower im thinking about going both ways 12/12 and 11/13 with same strain/phenotype cuase I wanna learn what makes more thc I here arguments for both sides my aself
 

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I think sterile is great if you can manage it. . . beneficial hydro teas will bat clean up for though...

I also in my teas use my bokashi juice from the bokashi composter (i'm vegan).

I have the drawer style worm factory sitting here. Haven't started the poo factory yet but will soon!

Aslo foilar feed with sea Plex and storch oil!

Seaplex is a organic ga3 pgr basically but safe. Storch oil has many oraganics not found in any other forms than oil...

Kepp it up people of the sun!

Peacerdown
 

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Break flowering into 3rds.

3 weeks of stretch 3 weeks of push! 3 weeks of burnoff/ripen/ flush

Stretch= high humidity lower light mix of hps and mh and lower nute ppm. Pump the c02 as well!

Push= ramp lights and nutes up slowly! Mix in more hps vs mh. Decrease humidity. Co2 still high.

The burn= max out the hps lights! Slowly leach nutes from system and roots... Dehumidifier on max! Ro water and Benny hydro tea only, the last two weeks to starve them and burn off those stored nutes in the roots and foliage!
 

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Jacks sounds interesting too and cheap.

Which jacks are you specifically using? They have a lot of stuff, for soil and hydro

Jack's Hydro. You buy both the Hydro and CalNit together. 25# bags of each. 50#s total.

I ran 4 grows with 3k in lights and only used ~4lbs of each I believe. Will work for veg and flower no need to really change a damn thing. Maybe cut some CalNit during flower or add some PK Booster. They have a "Bloom Booster" which you can alternate with the Hydro/CalNit in flower. I used my 8 oz I bought and did no adjusting like I would have to do when adding a PK boost to Hydro/CalNit. Arminius ran the bloom booster from week 5 (I think?) on without alternating and was sastifsied with the results. Has no calcium though.

Seriously is too easy to use and the cheapest around.

Jacks hydro. Great stuff. Almost as good as rols/tlo. :D

Haters gonna hate!
 

Bennyweed1

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Jack's Hydro. You buy both the Hydro and CalNit together. 25# bags of each. 50#s total.

Im ran 4 grows with 3k in lights and only used ~4lbs of each I believe. Will work for veg and flower no need to really change a damn thing. Maybe cut some CalNit during flower or add some PK Booster. They have a "Bloom Booster" which you can alternate with the Hydro/CalNit in flower. I used my 8 oz I bought and did no adjusting like I would have to do when adding a PK boost to Hydro/CalNit. Arminius ran the bloom booster from week 5 (I think?) on without alternating and was sastifsied with the results. Has no calcium though.

Seriously is too easy to use and the cheapest around.





Haters gonna hate!


i think I will give jacks a try next round. Sounds like the cool kids alternative to maxibloom, which I like.

I running into a VPD issue like you have at the beginning of your thread. Humidity is a cock sucker to keep up during the winter months using bare bulbs because the room needs to be vented.

I need to get my co2 fired back up but im short the controller at the moment and dont have the 900+ to drop on a good controller at the moment. What sucks is that winter is the only time I can really run co2 and this winter passed me up. Summer is out of the question.

There is literally no real option for me to raise the RH with how my setup is configured. I mean there is, but its not realistic in my circumstance.

Even if I have a 10 head fogger rocking away in the flower chamber, there is a 1000cfm exhaust venting from the chamber into the static space of the basement, which is to large for a 10 head fogger to make any difference.

I know that is a huge issue but I really dont have any viable options to fix it.
 
Break flowering into 3rds.

3 weeks of stretch 3 weeks of push! 3 weeks of burnoff/ripen/ flush

Stretch= high humidity lower light mix of hps and mh and lower nute ppm. Pump the c02 as well!

Push= ramp lights and nutes up slowly! Mix in more hps vs mh. Decrease humidity. Co2 still high.

The burn= max out the hps lights! Slowly leach nutes from system and roots... Dehumidifier on max! Ro water and Benny hydro tea only, the last two weeks to starve them and burn off those stored nutes in the roots and foliage!

that's why I like Rock nutrients check out there chart they make it very simple they tell u where ppms should be

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this chart is what sold me on them its like the have it down to science
 
so benny what did u think of the roots are they anything special to what u got? they are only 2-3 weeks old should I have more roots?
 
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