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Bean Shopping...Fem? or Regular?
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I can only speak from my own experience. I usually grow out standard seeds on all my grows, but the one time that I grew out a few feminized seeds, they were 100% fine and they had no problems at all, so I have a 100% success ratio with female seeds so far. Granted, it was only a few feminized plants, but I have personally not witnessed any problems or hermies so far. We'll see if ratio holds up in the future, if I ever run a few feminized plants again sometime.
From the many posts that I've read on this forum and on other places, there seems to be differences in quality and stability of feminized seeds from the different breeders that do feminized seeds. Maybe they use different techniques? All I know is that not all feminized seeds are equal.
Wait 3-4 weeks from sprout and there is an excellent chance you can sex with a loop.
I had regular seeds produce hermies and I don't think I was the problem as it only happened with one strain.
Pine
what strain was it ??? thats the kind of info I want as I would not grow those.
Reeferman's Potent Purple.
I wouldn't grow anything from Reeferman again given the prices and my experiences with his wares.
Pine
elo elo,,,,what do we have ere...
fems or regular.....hmmm
well,,,,, if you a beginner grower,,,,id say ,,,"go for the regular"..!!!.....
im sure you dont want to be involved in stress testing fems,,,,,,you allways have to be carefull "with any plants ,,fems or regular", that inderviduals do not have intersexed traits,,,,,,
when buying regular F1`s, the results have usaly been tested many times,
Mendilian F1`s are way better for the begginers because,,,,if a small population of F1`s is tested an they dont show intersexed traits ,,,chances are the rest of the F1`s wont the intersexed trait ither,,,,this is part of Mendelian law
if you aint focused on finding "select clones" an keeping mothers,,, there is no need to hassel youself with the fem stuff
the fem stuff is basicly S1 seeds ,,,,,S1 will show massive varieation and its allmost imposible to judge the results from the line even with massive testing..... Mendelian inheritance governs the "F1" and results are easy to predict after a small population is tested
i hope this makes sense
fems or regular.....hmmm
well,,,,, if you a beginner grower,,,,id say ,,,"go for the regular"..!!!.....
im sure you dont want to be involved in stress testing fems,,,,,,you allways have to be carefull "with any plants ,,fems or regular", that inderviduals do not have intersexed traits,,,,,,
when buying regular F1`s, the results have usaly been tested many times,
Mendilian F1`s are way better for the begginers because,,,,if a small population of F1`s is tested an they dont show intersexed traits ,,,chances are the rest of the F1`s wont the intersexed trait ither,,,,this is part of Mendelian law
if you aint focused on finding "select clones" an keeping mothers,,, there is no need to hassel youself with the fem stuff
the fem stuff is basicly S1 seeds ,,,,,S1 will show massive varieation and its allmost imposible to judge the results from the line even with massive testing..... Mendelian inheritance governs the "F1" and results are easy to predict after a small population is tested
i hope this makes sense
G
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englishrick has provided some good info for thought.
the debate of fems and standard seeds lingers on. It been my experience that outdoors, fems outperform standard seeds many times over. They are far more stable sexually. Outdoors, bugs, heat, drought, wind, etc stress the plant and regular seeds almost always provide a male flower here or there. There are no regular seeds on the market in which you can grow out 10 females outdoors and not have a male flower somewhere because it is the nature of cannabis to do that. It doesnt effect the grow,but you do find 2 or 3 seeds in that one bud while smoking.
That isnt seen at all in the outdoors with fems. They never produce a male flower when started and grown outdoors.
Indoor is a completely different matter. Femmed seeds grown indoors are much more vulnerable to lighting irregularities and root stresses and hermies abound. Grower attitude toward fems will be dependent upon how the grower groww.
If care is used however, indoor fems are great. Keep it steady.
the debate of fems and standard seeds lingers on. It been my experience that outdoors, fems outperform standard seeds many times over. They are far more stable sexually. Outdoors, bugs, heat, drought, wind, etc stress the plant and regular seeds almost always provide a male flower here or there. There are no regular seeds on the market in which you can grow out 10 females outdoors and not have a male flower somewhere because it is the nature of cannabis to do that. It doesnt effect the grow,but you do find 2 or 3 seeds in that one bud while smoking.
That isnt seen at all in the outdoors with fems. They never produce a male flower when started and grown outdoors.
Indoor is a completely different matter. Femmed seeds grown indoors are much more vulnerable to lighting irregularities and root stresses and hermies abound. Grower attitude toward fems will be dependent upon how the grower groww.
If care is used however, indoor fems are great. Keep it steady.
hmmmm,,,,very interesting
you say the fems out-perform the regular ,,,,,,out-door growing is an interesting controle factor too
i like your style man
i don't think they hermie'd... the basic kush were males... all balls...
just popped the last 4 seeds... maybe we will luck out..
he released a small batch of each, 2 odd years ago.. they were cheap 40 or 45 bucks..
..to say femmed seeds won't hermie outside and reg seeds will IMO is totally LUDICROUS..
peace G
ahh man , please read this again,,,...think of the words "out perform",,,,,,,an he is also giveng controled curcumstance,,,,its a grate bace for real study
silverback
englishrick has provided some good info for thought.
the debate of fems and standard seeds lingers on. It been my experience that outdoors, fems outperform standard seeds many times over. They are far more stable sexually. Outdoors, bugs, heat, drought, wind, etc stress the plant and regular seeds always provide a male flower there. There are no regular seeds on the market in which you can grow 10 females outdoors and not have a male flower here and there because it is the nature of cannabis to do that. It doesnt effect the grow,but you do find 2 0r 3 seeds in that one bud while smoking.
That isnt seen at all in the outdoors with fems. They never produce a male flower when started and grown outdoors.
Indoor is a completely different matter. Femmed seeds grown indoors are much more vulnerable to lighting irregularities and root stresses and hermies abound. Grower attitude toward fems will be dependent upon how the grower groww.
If care is used however, indoor fems are great. Keep it steady.
alright, sorry bro,"out perform"..it is still imho that to be false..i was growing outdoors for a long time b4 i discovered indoors..never had hermies even on plants that split down the middle from high winds..till i tried to grow fems outside..hermies galore..
it might be a great base for a real study, but the opposite has been my experience..
there are too many variances as to why plants hermie..it might be wrong but i believe femmed seeds to have a much higher hermie tendency due to the fact they are genetically altered..there's no doubt some strains have hermie traits, whether reg. or femmed..
either way i can't digest that fems outperform regs in any way at all..atleast not from my experiences..
peace G
it might be a great base for a real study, but the opposite has been my experience..
there are too many variances as to why plants hermie..it might be wrong but i believe femmed seeds to have a much higher hermie tendency due to the fact they are genetically altered..there's no doubt some strains have hermie traits, whether reg. or femmed..
either way i can't digest that fems outperform regs in any way at all..atleast not from my experiences..
peace G
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Organic-Dank
regular madala, mr nice, sensi, nirvana and a few others have great fucking beans !! yeye
madala, mr nice, sensi, nirvana and a few others have great fucking beans !! yeye
its intersexed traits that you have problems with bro......if your genome has it... your fuked,,,,, ither with regular or feminized seeds
M/F breeding can easly put the "hermi trait" into a recessive state ,,,,,then your even moe fuked when it comes to getting rid of it,,,,,,,,,,
the trick is to find genomes without the "hermi trait" in their genome to start with......
when it comes to "selfing",,,ie fem seeds,,,,, its a solid technique that has been used by real plant breeders for years,,,,,people like Robbert Clarke have document it,,,,,,im pretty sure they found no issues with inducing intersexed traits via selfing
look it up bro
fem seeds can easly outperform F1`s...il explaine why if you like,,,
M/F breeding can easly put the "hermi trait" into a recessive state ,,,,,then your even moe fuked when it comes to getting rid of it,,,,,,,,,,
the trick is to find genomes without the "hermi trait" in their genome to start with......
when it comes to "selfing",,,ie fem seeds,,,,, its a solid technique that has been used by real plant breeders for years,,,,,people like Robbert Clarke have document it,,,,,,im pretty sure they found no issues with inducing intersexed traits via selfing
look it up bro
fem seeds can easly outperform F1`s...il explaine why if you like,,,
SativaDreams
Member
I think he hit the nail on the head about the "not all people have room to grow mother plant/father plant/many plants"
If I grew I would only have closet space to do it. I could grow a minimum of 1 huge fimmed/trained plant (3-5 feet tall.) or 2 big fimmed trained plants (3-4 feet tall).. i dont have room for double that amount of plants to find 1 or 2 females.
you may think "oh it would be easy to just grow out a couple regular seeds and find a mother and clone it.." but that will take so long and i only have one light setup so i dont see how I will vege and flower out theclones while keeping the mother in veg.. (light height/hours of light on/etc are problems)
this means i may consider doing fem seeds, and doing each grow as its own grow .. OR possibly fem seeds and growing out a mother or 2 for cloning. but the first option is most likely for me as I dont want to spend all that extra time to get a mother and wait for clones.. i want my medicine as soon as its legal!?
SativaDreams
Member
randude, what do you suggest I do then? with only one light source and place to keep my plants i dont see how I could have my mother plant in there with my clones? the mother will be far too close to the light OR the clones will be too far away! unless you suggest killing the mother after raping her for babies?
hm
also does anyone have experience cloning from fem seeds?
maybe it would save me the time of having to flower out regular seeds and see whats female.. then i could just veg a fem seed for mother and chop chop chop???
just so i can jump a load of info , an cut strait to the chase,,,,,,you will have to trust me, just for a sec....... untill you do the reaserch youself, then you will know the truth
F2 seeds are more likely to show keepers than F1 seeds!!....FACT!!
fem seeds are like F2 seeds gone crazy.....massive variations but KILLER FINDS TO BE HAD!!!....trust me bro,,,,please try and figure out why this is all true!
