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Stoney419 always good to here from you man I been checking out your show and would love to pick your brain when when I'm ready to go a lot bigger. Maybe I'll just start a thread in the construction forums for a 10k sq' dream grow project that has to be powered by green alternative energy and 100% environmentally friendly. See what the best IC has to offer and then maybe just build it? Sounds like fun to me!
Sashiva thanks for stopping in I think ill search for Mr Clean when I'm done posting this thanks for the heads up! As far as the med license goes Michigan is working a little bit differently than the other states run their set up Med MJ. Here is a link to another one of my threads that has the law on it.
http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=111400
As it states in this act the patient must designate a care giver who will then receive their care giver card from the state upon approval of the patient's medical card. The state permits 5 patients per care giver. The reason my wife and I are starting M.O.P.M.M. is that this law does nothing to protect patients and caregivers from crap MJ at awful prices and most people don't have the skill set necessary to produce a medical grade product.
Our non profit organization is like a consortium of patients and care givers from all over the state. We assist patients with finding doctors who are willing to prescribe medical MJ for the right reasons. We also handle the processing of applications for patients and work as a vehicle to match patients with care givers in order to get them the best medicine possible. We also provide an opportunity for caregivers to sponsor patients without ever needing to handle plants or products. Caregivers and patients enter into contract with M.O.P.M.M. allowing us to be the sole care provider for our patients to ensure they get treated with respect and get the product that is right for their ailments.
Our organization not only provides medical MJ but also will provide jobs to a town that desperately needs them. Furthermore the goal of the monies collected is to meet our operational requirements and necessary expansion goals and all of the rest of it will be put towards funding a research institute here in our area to better refine strains and processed products tailored to treat the specific ailments of our patients.
So if I haven't answered your question to your satisfaction or if you are interested in being a patient or care giver please feel free to contact me directly at my email posted at the start of this thread. I'm going to stop beating my drum now and go back to tending my ladies. Peace love and good smoke for everyone.
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MI isnt that far away...so if i move there you can set me know with 5 other patients to provide for....what is the plant limit per person and what is the max you can have? this sounds interesting...
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Day 22
Well things seem to be looking good with the ladies today. The Purple Girls are continuing to develop very quickly and Big Rhonda is starting to show purple coloration near the stem on her new leaf sets!
Here are the stats on the room with the purple babies today.
Air Temp: 72f
Humidity: 22%
Reservoir Temp: 70.5f
Reservoir PH: 5.50
Reservoir PPM: 1009
The white satin girls are showing a big improvement with a stable nute solution now in effect. They have effectively doubled their daily growth rate and are now developing their axial branches as well. I am not too concerned about a slower growth rate with these ladies though as they get 400w and the purples get 1000w. If any one has ever tracked statistical data on growth rate between the 400w MH and 1000w HPS I would be really interested in a link or post with it
. Here is the data for the white ladies room.
Air Temp: 70.7f
Reservoir Temp: 68.4
Reservoir PH: 5.51
Reservoir PPM: 951
So a question for all you ganja farmers out there when growing from seed how many days in do you generally flip em to 12/12 for sexing? Once sex is established do you prefer to attempt a reveg and clone then, or clone and just keep them flowering? Also for the record we are letting the ladies veg for quite a while as we intend to super crop them and have 6 fat bushes filling that 10x10 flowering room. That being said input on when to start the super crop and the 12/12 would be greatly appreciated
Well things seem to be looking good with the ladies today. The Purple Girls are continuing to develop very quickly and Big Rhonda is starting to show purple coloration near the stem on her new leaf sets!
Here are the stats on the room with the purple babies today.Air Temp: 72f
Humidity: 22%
Reservoir Temp: 70.5f
Reservoir PH: 5.50
Reservoir PPM: 1009
The white satin girls are showing a big improvement with a stable nute solution now in effect. They have effectively doubled their daily growth rate and are now developing their axial branches as well. I am not too concerned about a slower growth rate with these ladies though as they get 400w and the purples get 1000w. If any one has ever tracked statistical data on growth rate between the 400w MH and 1000w HPS I would be really interested in a link or post with it
. Here is the data for the white ladies room.Air Temp: 70.7f
Reservoir Temp: 68.4
Reservoir PH: 5.51
Reservoir PPM: 951
So a question for all you ganja farmers out there when growing from seed how many days in do you generally flip em to 12/12 for sexing? Once sex is established do you prefer to attempt a reveg and clone then, or clone and just keep them flowering? Also for the record we are letting the ladies veg for quite a while as we intend to super crop them and have 6 fat bushes filling that 10x10 flowering room. That being said input on when to start the super crop and the 12/12 would be greatly appreciated
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IKILL3RI thanx for hanging in there with me on this one I'll try not to disappoint.
Maygem12 thanks for stopping in on my little thread please feel free to impart any wisdom you have as I'm always up for learning
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Trueblu8 I hope Ilinois comes to there senses soon for your sake man. To be honest we were shocked that Michigan finally joined the Green club and hope to have a chance to set a precedent in the Medicinal MJ department
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MASHUP thanks for the compliments on the set up. It spent years in the conceptual phase and it makes me feel all warm and fuzzy to see it up and running. It is great to know that the hundreds of hours I spent lurking in OG and IC forums studying the works of fine cultivators such as yourselves taught me everything I know. So now it is my chance to give back for all of you for teaching me so much!
Omenman Thanx for popping in to see whats going on. I am more than happy to discuss all of the legal stipulations surrounding legal med in Michigan in the thread below.
http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=111400
Please don't think me rude I just get side tracked easy enough and this thread is for the grow show not the soap box
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Maygem12 thanks for stopping in on my little thread please feel free to impart any wisdom you have as I'm always up for learning
!Trueblu8 I hope Ilinois comes to there senses soon for your sake man. To be honest we were shocked that Michigan finally joined the Green club and hope to have a chance to set a precedent in the Medicinal MJ department
.MASHUP thanks for the compliments on the set up. It spent years in the conceptual phase and it makes me feel all warm and fuzzy to see it up and running. It is great to know that the hundreds of hours I spent lurking in OG and IC forums studying the works of fine cultivators such as yourselves taught me everything I know. So now it is my chance to give back for all of you for teaching me so much!
Omenman Thanx for popping in to see whats going on. I am more than happy to discuss all of the legal stipulations surrounding legal med in Michigan in the thread below
.http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=111400
Please don't think me rude I just get side tracked easy enough and this thread is for the grow show not the soap box
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Domino as soon as we got flowers you'll be the first to know! Right now we are 22 days since germinating seeds so we still have a bit to go before the bud porn
So here are some munchies
roll a spliff and settle in 
it's gonna be a long and eventful ride!
So here are some munchies roll a spliff and settle in it's gonna be a long and eventful ride!
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Day 23
After doing alot of reading in Mashup's thread on DWC and the advice supplied by BIGGreen and Pirate I drained 20 gallons of nutrients today from both systems and replaced the nute solution with straight tap water to lower the PPM by about half. The girls are still young and the stronger the solution was the slower they were developing. Here are the readings before Draining 1/2 of the nutes and refilling.
Purple Girls
Air Temp: 72.4f
Humidity: 16%
Reservoir Temp: 70.3f
Reservoir PH: 5.52
Reservoir PPM: 1015
White Ladies
Air Temp: 70.1f
Reservoir Temp: 68.6f
Reservoir PH: 5.54
Reservoir PPM: 958
The ladies were left with the newly adjusted nute solution for the night to stabilize PH and PPM throughout the system prior to adjusting again.
After doing alot of reading in Mashup's thread on DWC and the advice supplied by BIGGreen and Pirate I drained 20 gallons of nutrients today from both systems and replaced the nute solution with straight tap water to lower the PPM by about half. The girls are still young and the stronger the solution was the slower they were developing. Here are the readings before Draining 1/2 of the nutes and refilling.
Purple Girls
Air Temp: 72.4f
Humidity: 16%
Reservoir Temp: 70.3f
Reservoir PH: 5.52
Reservoir PPM: 1015
White Ladies
Air Temp: 70.1f
Reservoir Temp: 68.6f
Reservoir PH: 5.54
Reservoir PPM: 958
The ladies were left with the newly adjusted nute solution for the night to stabilize PH and PPM throughout the system prior to adjusting again.
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Day 24
After allowing the system to stabilize over night the desired effect was achieved and PPM was lowered to a more tolerable range. The ladies looked a bit droopy due to PH being up from the tap water but all in all I think it was the right call based on the performance we were seeing. As felt bad for screwing up their perfect world I went to the local grow shop for more PH down and got them a bottle of GH Floralicious as a present. The readings prior to adjusting were...
Purple Girls
Air Temp: 71.6f
Humidity: 16%
Reservoir Temp: 70.3f
Reservoir PH: 6.7
Reservoir PPM: 697
White Girls
Air Temp: 69.2f
Reservoir Temp: 66.7f
Reservoir PH: 6.75
Reservoir PPM: 661
The PH was adjusted down in both rooms to the 5.7 neighborhood (I'll have accurate readings tomorrow after overnight stabilization). PPM after accounting for the 200+ PPM in the tap water is cruising in the ideal zone now for the ladies current stage of development. Both systems were also dosed with 10 ML of GH Floralicious to give them a tiny boost to nitrogen and help supplement the micro nutrients in their nute solution.
Hopefully the adjustments will do the trick in perking up their rate of growth but only time will tell. If you have comments and suggestions I'm all ears and if you see me doing something stupid please speak up!
We are now on the daily search for preflowers and hope to find some good indicators soon as we approach the 30 day mark since germination.
After allowing the system to stabilize over night the desired effect was achieved and PPM was lowered to a more tolerable range. The ladies looked a bit droopy due to PH being up from the tap water but all in all I think it was the right call based on the performance we were seeing. As felt bad for screwing up their perfect world I went to the local grow shop for more PH down and got them a bottle of GH Floralicious as a present
. The readings prior to adjusting were...Purple Girls
Air Temp: 71.6f
Humidity: 16%
Reservoir Temp: 70.3f
Reservoir PH: 6.7
Reservoir PPM: 697
White Girls
Air Temp: 69.2f
Reservoir Temp: 66.7f
Reservoir PH: 6.75
Reservoir PPM: 661
The PH was adjusted down in both rooms to the 5.7 neighborhood (I'll have accurate readings tomorrow after overnight stabilization). PPM after accounting for the 200+ PPM in the tap water is cruising in the ideal zone now for the ladies current stage of development. Both systems were also dosed with 10 ML of GH Floralicious to give them a tiny boost to nitrogen and help supplement the micro nutrients in their nute solution.
Hopefully the adjustments will do the trick in perking up their rate of growth but only time will tell. If you have comments and suggestions I'm all ears and if you see me doing something stupid please speak up!
We are now on the daily search for preflowers and hope to find some good indicators soon as we approach the 30 day mark since germination.
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Domino don't worry about it too much I'm usually too foggy to keep track of what's going on LOL, and as for patience it's a requirement in the garden but I'm not to fond of waiting either. Hmm maybe I'll have to start a thread for a DIY time machine...
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Day 25
Well the ladies seem to be adjusting well to the new regime. Growth has boosted vertically and the roots have about doubled in size/quantity in 24 hours. here are the stats for the 2 rooms.
Purple Girls
Air Temp: 72.2f
Humidity: 16%
Reservoir Temp: 70f
Reservoir PH: 5.98
Reservoir PPM: 720
White Girls
Air Temp: 69.9f
Reservoir Temp: 67.2f
Reservoir PH: 5.92
Reservoir PPM: 708
Well thats it for this day!
Well the ladies seem to be adjusting well to the new regime. Growth has boosted vertically and the roots have about doubled in size/quantity in 24 hours. here are the stats for the 2 rooms.
Purple Girls
Air Temp: 72.2f
Humidity: 16%
Reservoir Temp: 70f
Reservoir PH: 5.98
Reservoir PPM: 720
White Girls
Air Temp: 69.9f
Reservoir Temp: 67.2f
Reservoir PH: 5.92
Reservoir PPM: 708
Well thats it for this day!
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narutonut
Day 26
The girls are continuing to kick it in the ass as far as growth goes. The roots are doubling daily on the purple ladies and axial branches are quickly bushing out. Things seem fairly consistent through out the grow and the ladies like it!
Purple Girls
Air Temp: 71.7f
Humidity: 16%
Reservoir Temp: 69.9f
Reservoir PH: 5.98
Reservoir PPM: 721
White Girls
Air Temp: 69.6f
Reservoir Temp: 67.4f
Reservoir PH: 5.93
Reservoir PPM:708
We'll see what they are doing tomorrow!
The girls are continuing to kick it in the ass as far as growth goes. The roots are doubling daily on the purple ladies and axial branches are quickly bushing out. Things seem fairly consistent through out the grow and the ladies like it!
Purple Girls
Air Temp: 71.7f
Humidity: 16%
Reservoir Temp: 69.9f
Reservoir PH: 5.98
Reservoir PPM: 721
White Girls
Air Temp: 69.6f
Reservoir Temp: 67.4f
Reservoir PH: 5.93
Reservoir PPM:708
We'll see what they are doing tomorrow!
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narutonut
Day 27
Although considerably behind in development compared to the Sweet Purples (purple is under 1kw and the white are under 400w) the White Satins are starting to come on strong. The roots are showing similar growth patterns to their friends next door with roots doubling daily and axial branches bushing out all over.
Still no indicators of sex showing yet but not totally unexpected given the rough start we had with nutes and PH swings but soon we hope to have good news. I'll try to get some plant and root porn up after I finish this post
Purple Girls
Air Temp: 71f
Humidity: 16%
Reservoir Temp: 70f
Reservoir PH: 6.0
Reservoir PPM: 722
White Girls
Air Temp: 69f
Reservoir Temp: 66.8f
Reservoir PH: 5.95
Reservoir PPM: 713
If you have any questions feel free to shoot and I'll be back when I finish with the camera in the garden!
Although considerably behind in development compared to the Sweet Purples (purple is under 1kw and the white are under 400w) the White Satins are starting to come on strong. The roots are showing similar growth patterns to their friends next door with roots doubling daily and axial branches bushing out all over.
Still no indicators of sex showing yet but not totally unexpected given the rough start we had with nutes and PH swings but soon we hope to have good news. I'll try to get some plant and root porn up after I finish this post
Purple Girls
Air Temp: 71f
Humidity: 16%
Reservoir Temp: 70f
Reservoir PH: 6.0
Reservoir PPM: 722
White Girls
Air Temp: 69f
Reservoir Temp: 66.8f
Reservoir PH: 5.95
Reservoir PPM: 713
If you have any questions feel free to shoot and I'll be back when I finish with the camera in the garden!
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Ladies and Gents we are blessed with a Sleepy (this guy is my hero)! Thanks for stopping in man glad to see you r a o k! Here's the pix I promised earlier roots and all!!! Pictures of the Sweet Purples are first. All photos are day 27
)! Thanks for stopping in man glad to see you r a o k! Here's the pix I promised earlier roots and all!!! Pictures of the Sweet Purples are first. All photos are day 27
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Here are the White Satin ladies. I definitely think I'll get a 1kw MH for vegging in the future as the growth difference based on amount of light is extraordinary! Here's my babies...
Hope you guys are enjoying the show the real entertainment is still down the road but at least it gets closer every day! Stay safe!
Hope you guys are enjoying the show the real entertainment is still down the road but at least it gets closer every day! Stay safe!
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OK Loco81 there you go man twist a spliff and enjoy! LOLZ
