Barry Cooper - Friend or Foe?

[Echoes]

I agree that if you have no evidence for him still being an active police officer, you have nothing really but speculation and social stigma. It's completely possible he's changed or seen the error in his ways. It is completely possible for a person (even a cop -- surprise) to change. Saying a policeman is always a policeman (even after they've quit their job) is a blanket statement that will never be true all the time. I'm not arguing whether he's a narc or anything like that, I'm just saying that, to me, he seems like a marketing tool - the latest pot rebel with a story to come out publicly. Hell, I bet there are a lot of cops out there who don't give a shit about a few plants or a quarter bag of weed but a lot of times they do what they have to do to keep a job. I respect the police for a lot of things they do but the problem here is a level higher than the police -- a governmental policy level. This is what we must focus on whilst avoiding the police. They just follow orders. There are crooked cops and there are asshole, egotistical cops but there are people like that in all positions over the entire world. Bottom line for me: I don't think he's necessarily a narc or informant but then again I'm not going to just trust every word that comes out of his mouth. He seems so wrapped up in advertising, expos, endorsements, money, magazines, etc. that he just more or less feels fake to me. Hopefully he'll actually become politically active (other than just claim he's running for Congress.) I want to see him spearheading and organizing movements to people he's told his story to or doing something other than repeating over and over how to hide your weed. We'll see, I suppose, how devoted to the cause he is.

 

[The_Leader]

what utter fools to trust a cop. present past or dead.

he busted ppl. thats good enough for me to woop his piggy ass.

oh rtr if pot makes up u parinoid? quit smoking, but just because LE says it causes parinioa dont make it true. cop lover...lol

Hes 1 of us now says rtr...roflmao. i never busted no one or ratted. bc has done both. oh and rtr, what aaout next week when hes back w/leo? so niaeve....

i bet u think pedos change too? and u have a god on ur side? which one...lol...im cryin from lol at u.

 

[Limeygreen]

I have had many a people tell me they aren't lying to me before when you ask them if they are lying, guess what, they were lying completely, I wonder how that happened, they said one thing and are doing another, I don't know if he is still a cop, but he could be and that alone should get your attention and get you to act accordingly.

 

[RudolfTheRed]

Yup, figures you guys wouldn't have any real proof about Barry Cooper still being a cop. Please stop spreading your bullshit misinformation. If you have some proof show it otherwise SHUT UP already! Secondly, I am not paranoid but you seem to be. You keep making all these false claims about someone being a cop who no longer is. Marijuana can cause paranoia in some people. I didn't learn that from the cops either. Its just a simple truth. Whether you want to believe it or not is really up to you.

he busted ppl. thats good enough for me to woop his piggy ass.

Right, he used to bust people for marijuana. Realized what he was doing was fucked up and now he's trying to help our community out now. If marijuana is ever going to be fully legalized then we need cops and ex-cops to come and talk about how fucked up the drug war is just like Barry Cooper and organizations like LEAP have done. Kicking his ass after the fact isn't doing any body any good. I don't think most cops realize the damage they've done until they step back and take a real look at their actions. Sounds like Barry Cooper and many other ex-cops are finally doing that. These are people we need on our side.

 

[The_Leader]

u know what. i got busted for growin pot. guess what i tell any cop i meet? i quit the day i got busted...lol

we dont have the burden of proof rtr. fact is, bc busted ppl. that is an action. now bc says he is a pot jesus. those r words. u must prove he isnt a cop. and the cost of that would be ur freedom.

thatr ur right, so peace and tell the warrden to sux it for me.

 

[RudolfTheRed]

Anyone who types like a 13 year old girl really isn't worth responding to anymore but here i go one last time.

You getting busted and telling people you quit is a lot different than a cop quitting the force and turning into an activist against prohibition after realizing what he had been doing was wrong. You are trying to compare apples and oranges and honestly your point is mute here like its been all along.

No if you are going to keep calling him a cop you need to have some proof or else you are just spreading a lot of misinformation about someone. You may not agree with everything he says or everything he does (I don't either) but you have absolutely no proof he is still a cop. I'm not sure what you want Barry Cooper or anyone else in LEAP to do to prove they aren't cops anymore but as far as I am concerned the evidence (which you seem to ignore... go figure) points the other way. Believe what you want to because you will anyway but honestly you sound like an idiot.

 

[RudolfTheRed]

Wow, posting pictures of him when he was a cop still does nothing to show he is a cop now. I found a video of him smoking weed online so really a picture means shit And no one here is defending the guy and saying what he used to do wasn't wrong and fucked up. At least he admits that and he gets attacked for it. I just don't get it. Do you guys think LEAP is a secret organization set up by the police to bust us too?? I sure hope not. And I am defending him and other ex-cops who are now against the drug war because we need them on our side or else we'll just be fighting the same fucked up drug war we have been since prohibition started. i wish we had more ex-cops coming out and telling people how fucked up it is.
yes we need to rid snitches out of our own community but when an ex-cop says what he used to do was fucked up and now speaks out against the war on drugs i welcome that. the goal in the end is to get it legalized and having the support of cops and ex-cops is a big deal.

and i'm still waiting for proof...

 

[Echoes]

Still no connection

Still no connection

Wow, to compare a former police officer to a pedofile? Pretty big stretch there and it's also a logical fallacy. There is no evidence to support that he is an active police officer but, as you've presented, there is evidence of him being a police officer in the past. This is something he doesn't deny and it is part of his story so you're not really adding anything to the debate. In my opinion, a police officer is no different than a judge, lawyer, doctor, whatever profession you'd like to choose. They are people and people can change their ideas and professions. I'm sure there are many "wannabe cops" and "former cops" out there who still snitch but that doesn't mean they all do. I'm thinking you just don't like cops at all or your past experiences with them have put them in such a negative light you don't see them as humans anymore, which is sad, really. We do need these people on our side because they have had job titles that the public can recognize and respect and they have experience. Showing him your grow room and encouraging them to fight for us are two different things and neither is exclusive to the other. Want proof that he's not a cop anymore? Just search for "barry cooper ex-cop" and you'll get all you need. Until you can show me that he's busting people now or informing agencies about grow operations, you're wrong and there is no proof for your claim. I think the real issue here is whether or not he just wants to make a buck. I would certainly never show him my grow room but I'd probably smoke a joint with him (as long as he hits it first, ha.)

http://youtube.com/watch?v=gJRDhPha-cg (lol @ Fox)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JjwKEpNH6Ao&NR=1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_U9kwWG-Y0&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YYpt_H6g_44

They're trying their hardest to spin this and turn it on him and this isn't just on Fox. I think he may be somewhat sincere and at least he's doing something but I can't say he's the most eloquent or the best speaker (at least on these news clips.) I think he's just a simple man who saw what he was doing and wanted to change somehow. I'm not saying trust him, I'm just saying he's doing more than most of us and he doesn't deserve to be labeled a cop or snitch if there's no evidence to prove it (and being a former cop is not evidence.)

 

[Classyathome]

His advice is bad - he says to consent to searches. Baaaaaaad choice.

He says to spray your tires w/ substances to throw off dogs - just gives handler an alert, doesn't say to what. Baaaaad choice.

His dvd went out first with full title clearly on package - stealthy, eh?

His way to change that was to announce on his site what the package would say next time. Good thing leo is too stupid to visit his site, eh?

He was wunderleo - drugs were his thang. He is shyster businessman, trying anything, and failing, until he hit this.

Do I give a rats ass he smokes - nope, alot of leos do, but they still bust OUR asses for it.

He offers nothing but bad advice - for a fee.

Claimed he had various weed related good guys endorsements - lies.

He is ex leo - current douchebag, and a friend to a couple of folks here, by the sound of it.

I want no part of him - and want everyone to know what a security risk anything to do with him is.

I have downloaded his vid - illegally - and it was crap. My 14 yr old could come up with better stuff than that genius.

 

[Classyathome]

And think of the misery those poor bastards went thru while your pal Barry was posing for his trophy pics.

Those bundles represent real people, and real jail time.

 

[RudolfTheRed]

Okay he offers up bad advice but you've yet to prove he is still a cop.

Try again.

 

[Bubble Puppy]

Proving whether he's a cop still or not does not matter ...Bottom line ..he helped ruin alot of lives over marijuana and cannot "ever" be trusted.A rats a rat a narcs a narc..You don't get redeemed here..

 

[Echoes]

Why is there this illusion that the only reason a person joins the police force is to ruin peoples lives by busting them? I'd say the average police didn't join up to bust college kids with bags of herb. Many factors come into play. Maybe someone who is a police officer needs money, job security, family security, wants to curb violence, wants to bring justice to people who actually deserve it. Not all of them out there are horrible people that want to ruin lives it's just part of the job. There is a law. The law is wrong. They enforce this wrong law. Some of them do think pot is horrible and it ruins lives and there are those out there who love to screw over stoners and the likes but that doesn't make them or this guy like that. There is no proof of him being a rat or a snitch presently and he's doing what he can now to help the cause. This guy is doing some for all of us that we sure as hell aren't really doing. I'm certainly not on the news fighting this or releasing DVDs so stupid people will at least think about hiding their stash in a better way. I'm not speaking at national and international conferences or running for Congress or fund raising for foundations all the time. He is so at least he's doing something. That's why I chose the "he's a mercenary - but he's helping.." option. He can't go back in time, he can't ever go back to law enforcement (most likely) and he can't un-arrest these people. If he made a mistake and saw the error in his ways, I commend him but nobody is saying "trust this guy with your weed or your grow" because honestly he probably doesn't give two shits about anybody's grow here because he's happy and toking on the herb now as well and he's no longer arresting people, he's trying to help keep them from being arrested even though some of the ideas are a little misdirected. Where the hell did that even come from? Nobody asked anyone to trust him with anything important like this and nobody ever should because it would violate the golden rule. I don't know, I just don't understand. I wouldn't say he's my friend or a foe, on a personal level, because I'll probably never encounter the guy. I'd just say that he's a friend of the movement in the sense that he's doing things to help it.

 

[The_Leader]

mute is what ur voice does. moot is ur point. i type and u defend. means u understand fine. attacking my typing just proves uv nothing worth saying.


a cop goes in knowing they must bust ppl. if they dont theyre stupid. not to far of a leap.

you guys trust a pig. ill keep up w/the stars...lol

introduce me to one cop that would quit before busting u? if u know a cop that would bust me and not u? that cop is a self serving shiteater.

 

[Wot]

I think anyone who makes a full reversal is more than likely to flip right back. He was a successful narcotics officer from an early age and got big-headed from it. And all of a sudden he decides to show remorse for the lives and families he ruined over MJ specifically. Not much keeping me from thinking he might get bored of headbutting the bullshit laws he helped enforce and go back to it.

While I'm not saying all of his tips are bad or garbage, take it with a grain of salt and worst case overthink it. Paranoia never has gotten anyone locked up, being sloppy or outwardly sketchy has opened the floodgates to leos suspicion from many folks. From my pov he's just preaching common sense, so pickup on that as the biggest safety precaution you can run with. Stay safe and be calm ya'll.

 

[The_Leader]

THCh...lol

ignorant indeed.

edit. im lol at u. not w/u. u actually didnt know what that asshat cop bc had to say? its common sence, not anything we didnt know 25 yrs ago when I started growing.

all i got to say is u must be very young or very very tres tres stoopid. u sprayed any urine oo ur tires yet.

Oh and what bc knows he learned busting growers...lol

 

[NorthernKronic]

Would you trust the same person that put you in jail???

Hell no I didnt think you would. A cops a cops a cop and thats all there is to it. If hes not still a cop then hes friends with cops and thats all the proof that I (or any smart grower/smoker for that matter) needs.

For anyone whos gonna keep saying that theirs no proof, you sound like an LEO to me, and we all know they dont need proof to do a damn thing, theyll pistol whip you in the face without a second thought and say you were resisting, they dont need proof and neither do I!

 

[yamaha_1fan]

You guys are out of your mind.

People change. They live and learn.

LEO could figure out a million better ways to bust growers than by using BC as a front. How many growers do you think they can actually find by his videos?

I see the guy making a killing off his $40 videos. The guy has to eat

 

[Classyathome]

You guys are out of your mind.

People change. They live and learn.

LEO could figure out a million better ways to bust growers than by using BC as a front. How many growers do you think they can actually find by his videos?

I see the guy making a killing off his $40 videos. The guy has to eat

A leopard can't change it's spots - a pig can't change it's curly tail.

If they get 1 grower - that's one too many.

His meals were earned by busting US - now he's sitting down to eat again, and some poor bastards are paying for the meal.

Said it before - paying that asshole for anything is like thanking some thug for raping your sister.

His advice reeks - his stealth is laughable, his apology even worse. He lied about having pro-mmj reviews and supporters. This is just another stop on his way to financial freedom - he made $$$ by busting growers and smokers, now he's making $$$ from selling them bogus and spurious info on how not to get busted (something he claims he had happen TWICE since he left leo).

If an ex-leo, drug buster hero, gets busted knowing all he (allegedly) knows, why should the pro-mj folks follow advice that got him busted?

Damn, I am having a very hard time understanding why anyone would even lift a leg to piss on him to put out a fire, nevermind stand up on the premier weed site in the world, and sing his praises...

You people are either misguided, misinformed, leos or just plain outta your friggin' minds...

Send him your $, get on his list, and get your asses busted, or worse, get my ass busted.

He, and his coven, are baaaad news.

Stay the hell away from me, and my friends. Safer that way.

 

[The_Leader]

i know it all. im the leader...lol. ill say it again, if bc helped u? i lol at u. common sence i got. no reminders needed. i been to prison already and not from being stoopid. i married a rat. i was horney...lol. like bc is for dumbpotheads.

im w/classy. keep him away from me if u want him around.