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dubi

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Hi Koondense,

Bangi Haze has been grown and tested in switzerland. It's one of the few sativa hybrids that has the potential to produce a fruitful and powerful harvest there. Nepal Jam, PCK or ErdPurt are other great choices for your area.
 

Koondense

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Thanx dubi, I'm interested in the BangiHaze because of mold resistance, but will consider the others too.

Do you happen to know how it compares to the Ciskei sativa(S African)?
I'm looking for some resistant strain for highland guerrilla, too bad you don't have the Ace Guerrilla anymore.

However, some Nepal haze beans are on the way, but Bangi is still messing my mind:)
 

dubi

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Greetings Koondense,

Yep, it's a pitty Guerrilla is no longer available, i also miss the chance to offer more nepalese kathmandu sativa genetics but the work done with this genetics years ago didn't reach the quality/goal we were looking for .... we focused our energies in other projects like malawi, golden tiger, zamaldelica, haze thais and a few new things that are coming for 2014.

I'm not familiarized with Ciskei so i can not comment on this one.

Regards! dubi - ACE Seeds -
 
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LLCoolJ

Hi dubi. Right now I'm growing 2 female Bangi Haze plants and while they look beautiful and smell pretty good there is something irritating me. They both have developed a few yellow hermaphrodite bananas on the main colas. And there is still 20 days to go. Is this normal behavior for Bangi Haze? I should mention that I also pollinated them both with multiple males but other than that I didn't stress them much.

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dubi

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Welcome LLCoolJ,

Im sorry to hear it, it's always irritating to find hermie traits in good females, hope they are just a few unfertile bananas and you can finish the cycle without problems... bangi haze have had a bit of hermaphroditism and other peculiarities since its early development. This has been improved in the latest generations of its breeding but can not be discarded 100 %.

Bangi Haze line is really interesting line because its very special effect, its dense resinous flowers, high mold/cold resistance and short flowering time. I've been smoking some bangi haze samples from this season lately and i'm still totally amazed about the quality and strenght of her effect, an outstanding mix of acceleration and psychedelia, that is very rare to find in plants with such short flowering time (9 weeks), usually i can only find this type of effects with longer flowering tropical sativas or sativa hybrids like Zamaldelica but Bangi Haze is really unique in its own.
 

ermlight

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hi dubi I was wondering what strains you could recommend me for 40 degree north in the states? very interested in your gear. and also wouldn't mind taking a risk of one little longer flower period to see how it would turn out? I would pm you but not enough posts thanks!
 

cannaris.es

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COSECHA ESQUEJE BANGI HAZE

COSECHA ESQUEJE BANGI HAZE

Buenos días a tod@s.

Les dejo con unas fotos de un esqueje de Bangi Haze cosechado con 10 semanas a doce horas, bajo un Hps de 250W y en maceta de 3 litros.

Un fuerte abrazo a tod@s. ;)
 

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dubi

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Thanks cannaris for sharing :)

Seems to be a nice Bangi Haze: high flower/leaf ratio, compact columnar structure and nice sativa congolese flower structure with hybrid vigour and short flowering, maybe with a bit more of flowering time she would increase the resin content.

Hugs and thanks for joining!
 

SwamiMon

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What would be the effect if you let this go maybe a extra week
like 90% cloudy 10% amber?

I'm looking to keep it as is, just cut out a LITTLE racey feeling.

I'm thinking maybe just a little bit longer might be good for that?
 

Jhhnn

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What would be the effect if you let this go maybe a extra week
like 90% cloudy 10% amber?

I'm looking to keep it as is, just cut out a LITTLE racey feeling.

I'm thinking maybe just a little bit longer might be good for that?

In general, you'd be correct. Can't really say wrt Bangi, having not yet grown it.
 

de145

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What would be the effect if you let this go maybe a extra week
like 90% cloudy 10% amber?

I'm looking to keep it as is, just cut out a LITTLE racey feeling.

I'm thinking maybe just a little bit longer might be good for that?

In my experience if you see any amber trichomes on these (or in fact any strain I've yet to try) you have completely ruined it and the high is just the same tired foggy-headed CBN breakdown high you get with *any* strain you let go to the point of amber trichomes.

In fact science consistently has proven if you see a slight change from crystal clear to slightly hazy you are at the peak of potency. The drop off of percentage of THC to CBN after that point is pretty steep. By the time there is amber trichomes there is very little thc left anywhere other than new growth which really shouldn't be happening once you get it dialed in.

Also the hairs are about 50% dead at this point in all the different ACE sativa's I've tried so far so it's easy to spot.

No need to take my word for it though, try a sample every week from week 6 onwards and let it go long to amber trichomes and try it for yourself.

For my BH pheno this takes almost exactly 6 weeks from the point I flip it to 12/12 under LED's in a cabinet scrogged. I could go as late as 7 but it starts to become a bland boring high at that point and only gets worse.

Also keep in mind that THC continues to break down to CBN in storage sometimes very rapidly if the temps are too high or there is too much light so if you start with a product that's already got a high degree of breakdown of THC to CBN (amber trichomes) when you open that jar in about 6 months you may find it gives you a headache more than anything else.

Rather than harvesting late and losing all that THC in order to get a less powerful bud why not just try a different strain instead? To me a plant should be grown to it's peak of perfection and if it's not right it's just not right.

The whole point of these exotic sativas is to experience what is unique about them, if you let them go to the point of amber trichomes you are just turning them into the same thing you get if you let any indica go long but with far more work.
 

SwamiMon

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In my experience if you see any amber trichomes on these (or in fact any strain I've yet to try) you have completely ruined it and the high is just the same tired foggy-headed CBN breakdown high you get with *any* strain you let go to the point of amber trichomes.

In fact science consistently has proven if you see a slight change from crystal clear to slightly hazy you are at the peak of potency. The drop off of percentage of THC to CBN after that point is pretty steep. By the time there is amber trichomes there is very little thc left anywhere other than new growth which really shouldn't be happening once you get it dialed in.

Also the hairs are about 50% dead at this point in all the different ACE sativa's I've tried so far so it's easy to spot.

No need to take my word for it though, try a sample every week from week 6 onwards and let it go long to amber trichomes and try it for yourself.

For my BH pheno this takes almost exactly 6 weeks from the point I flip it to 12/12 under LED's in a cabinet scrogged. I could go as late as 7 but it starts to become a bland boring high at that point and only gets worse.

Also keep in mind that THC continues to break down to CBN in storage sometimes very rapidly if the temps are too high or there is too much light so if you start with a product that's already got a high degree of breakdown of THC to CBN (amber trichomes) when you open that jar in about 6 months you may find it gives you a headache more than anything else.

Rather than harvesting late and losing all that THC in order to get a less powerful bud why not just try a different strain instead? To me a plant should be grown to it's peak of perfection and if it's not right it's just not right.

The whole point of these exotic sativas is to experience what is unique about them, if you let them go to the point of amber trichomes you are just turning them into the same thing you get if you let any indica go long but with far more work.

Again, thanks for the good info. I'm going to start to doing more research on trichome's in sativa, so i can learn more.

After the last few days of reading, i have noticed sativa growers seem to take their stuff down earlier then normal. So thanks for the heads up!
 

SwamiMon

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So after thinking a bit more......

Maybe this is why i ave read Dubi telling people to veg their plants a little longer to get a better product, veg until sex'. Also, your under LEDS, i'm thinking that might have something to do with it.

Every report/grow i have read says 8-9 weeks or so. All the smoke reports have been very positive when flowered to this time. Doesn't mean in anyway i wont be watching the trics' very close from week 5 on-wards, that's for sure!
 

Applesauce

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In my experience if you see any amber trichomes on these (or in fact any strain I've yet to try) you have completely ruined it and the high is just the same tired foggy-headed CBN breakdown high you get with *any* strain you let go to the point of amber trichomes.

In fact science consistently has proven if you see a slight change from crystal clear to slightly hazy you are at the peak of potency. The drop off of percentage of THC to CBN after that point is pretty steep. By the time there is amber trichomes there is very little thc left anywhere other than new growth which really shouldn't be happening once you get it dialed in.

Also the hairs are about 50% dead at this point in all the different ACE sativa's I've tried so far so it's easy to spot.

No need to take my word for it though, try a sample every week from week 6 onwards and let it go long to amber trichomes and try it for yourself.

For my BH pheno this takes almost exactly 6 weeks from the point I flip it to 12/12 under LED's in a cabinet scrogged. I could go as late as 7 but it starts to become a bland boring high at that point and only gets worse.

Also keep in mind that THC continues to break down to CBN in storage sometimes very rapidly if the temps are too high or there is too much light so if you start with a product that's already got a high degree of breakdown of THC to CBN (amber trichomes) when you open that jar in about 6 months you may find it gives you a headache more than anything else.

Rather than harvesting late and losing all that THC in order to get a less powerful bud why not just try a different strain instead? To me a plant should be grown to it's peak of perfection and if it's not right it's just not right.

The whole point of these exotic sativas is to experience what is unique about them, if you let them go to the point of amber trichomes you are just turning them into the same thing you get if you let any indica go long but with far more work.

Can you provide a resource for the claims you are making?
 

SwamiMon

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Can you provide a resource for the claims you are making?

https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=271153 all there is to know up to this point i would guess.


After reading that whole thread, here is what i decided to do:

Off of EACH plant i have, 1 bud @ 6 weeks 1 @ 7 1 @ 8 1@ 9 weeks

SO:

6 weeks buds:
Cure time 1/3 one month
1/3 2 months
1/3 3 months

Same with the 7 week cuts, the 8 weeks cuts and the 9 week cuts.

This will take the guess work out of time to chop & give me the best cure time for each one!

EXAMPLE:

I will know (depends on results) the 6 week chopped, cured @ 3 months is much better then the 6 week cured @ 1 month

OR

I will know if the plants went 8 weeks, the cure time for a 8 week chop is better @ 1 month then 3...

Best way i can think of to fast dial in a new strain.

Whatch'a thank? :)
 

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