rod58
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yeah , real quick mate .. i could and will do these again . i think my sativa days are numbered ! lol ..
but , feeling ok now for an old fella , and some real good stuff you have going this year .. wish ya well dude !
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yeah , real quick mate .. i could and will do these again . i think my sativa days are numbered ! lol ..
but , feeling ok now for an old fella , and some real good stuff you have going this year .. wish ya well dude !
rod58
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thanks frosty .. a few years ago a member gifted me some sour bubble x's and i was very impressed , so to get these it certainly brings back memories .
i love this outdoor life and i'm still not convinced to come inside ! probably never will be .
seeded
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Sorry for coming in out of nowhere but what happened to the scene?
Back in the early 2000s, which in hindsight feels like when things peaked to me, everyone and their dog was doing grow diaries, there were heaps of people working together on breeding projects like celtic stone, etc. Now sites like ozstoners exist but are overrun by people trying to sell herb and there's not even moderation to stop them. Even here there's bugger all people willing to show their grows so hats off to the people like rod58 who are actually willing to put pics up to make us froth.
It also seems like the breeding side of things has taken a major hit on the international level. Sure there's been a heap of new strains that have popped up over the years, don't get me wrong, but us old folk that were growing 20 years ago will remember that it felt like when every day someone was trying to sell us something new, it almost always lived up to the hype, and then things got absolutely spastic up until 2018ish at which point it seems to have died down considerably except for preservation work like what ace seeds and in particular the real seed company are doing by bringing landraces into the hands of the masses. I know there's lots of work involved in bringing quality genetics to the market but it hardly feels like it used to when we'd see a new seedbank open up every week.
Was it the legal market making inroads?
Could it be fear of law enforcement especially after all the draconian shit our government has passed to spy on us?
Maybe like myself most people were forced to take a break?
Hell why haven't LEDs doubled in efficiency and/or halved in price like we all expected they would every couple of years?
It seems like the whole scene is stagnating until it's eventual death and it pains me to see things going the way they are. I've tried to help out where I can with seeds, cuts and pollen but instead of it resulting in people taking up breeding and helping out their mates who in turn come on to sites like this and start grow diaries it's almost universally resulted in people retreating and never posting online again. It's almost like they feel as though they've got all they can out of being online and fuck off for good.
I'm sorry for the ranting wall of text it's just to me it feels like we've lost something magical, it's never coming back and the only thing that's changing are prices in line with inflation.
Oh well, my break from growing is coming to an end so I'll at least put my money where my mouth is and help try to revitalize things. See you fellas around and best of luck with your grows.
Back in the early 2000s, which in hindsight feels like when things peaked to me, everyone and their dog was doing grow diaries, there were heaps of people working together on breeding projects like celtic stone, etc. Now sites like ozstoners exist but are overrun by people trying to sell herb and there's not even moderation to stop them. Even here there's bugger all people willing to show their grows so hats off to the people like rod58 who are actually willing to put pics up to make us froth.
It also seems like the breeding side of things has taken a major hit on the international level. Sure there's been a heap of new strains that have popped up over the years, don't get me wrong, but us old folk that were growing 20 years ago will remember that it felt like when every day someone was trying to sell us something new, it almost always lived up to the hype, and then things got absolutely spastic up until 2018ish at which point it seems to have died down considerably except for preservation work like what ace seeds and in particular the real seed company are doing by bringing landraces into the hands of the masses. I know there's lots of work involved in bringing quality genetics to the market but it hardly feels like it used to when we'd see a new seedbank open up every week.
Was it the legal market making inroads?
Could it be fear of law enforcement especially after all the draconian shit our government has passed to spy on us?
Maybe like myself most people were forced to take a break?
Hell why haven't LEDs doubled in efficiency and/or halved in price like we all expected they would every couple of years?
It seems like the whole scene is stagnating until it's eventual death and it pains me to see things going the way they are. I've tried to help out where I can with seeds, cuts and pollen but instead of it resulting in people taking up breeding and helping out their mates who in turn come on to sites like this and start grow diaries it's almost universally resulted in people retreating and never posting online again. It's almost like they feel as though they've got all they can out of being online and fuck off for good.
I'm sorry for the ranting wall of text it's just to me it feels like we've lost something magical, it's never coming back and the only thing that's changing are prices in line with inflation.
Oh well, my break from growing is coming to an end so I'll at least put my money where my mouth is and help try to revitalize things. See you fellas around and best of luck with your grows.
I have to put a fair bit of effort into posting here nowadays. I believe that's what's slowed everything down. It has gotten harder and harder to keep even the small amount of passion on icmag going.. I post personally incase other nzers want something to nosey at, aswell as you chaps over the ditch.
No your right it should have also been more like you bastards hahahahaha. Cheers rod.
LED's with an efficacy rating of 2 7 - 3.0 umol/watt are now common.
Theoretically, an efficacy of 5-something is possible with an LED, but practicalities will limit max efficacy rating to around mid 4's. Any advances in efficacy from now on will be in small increments as materials and manufacturing techniques are refined.
HID lamps are less than half as efficient, with a 600w HPS having a rating of around 1.3 umol/watt.
I use a Lumitek Pro 465w with an efficacy rating of 2.7 umol/watt. With a big producing strain I have yielded in excess of 1.25 gms of smoke grade bud per watt plus another 0.75 gms of cook grade per watt. With frosty trim on top the total harvest was over 950gms.
This is a few shots from that grow. Home made F1 hybrid - Ace Malawi purple pheno X Peak Seeds BC Blueberry.
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People are still growing, breeding, e.t.c. Ozstoners died due to it being full of arguing bogans with a siege mentality (IMO). It's overrun by spam, because the owners are too lazy to log in. Almost all the members migrated to the serrated edge, where many show their grows.
There are more seeds and seed companies out there than you can poke a stick at. They are increasing, not decreasing. Not many Aussie breeders stick their heads up, but they are there. The multihybrid choices are beyond ridiculous. There's only so much you can do with multihybrid elite's crossed with each other. TRSC and suchlike are massive improvements, so I think the scene has never been bigger, just most of the INdica/hybrid crosses are bland. I can buy Thai's, Laos, Indian, Iranian, Afghani landrace that i couldn't dream of getting 10 years ago. Sativa's are making a comeback too which is great. Some of the best sativa hybrids I've had are from Aussie breeders too, btw.
LEDs are way more efficient. Not even sure where you're coming from with that one.
We also have medical cannabis now, and although it is fucked you can't grow your own, it is great that you can now be prescribed oils, tablets, and even buds for your ailments. There is a massive market now for CBD as well both prescription and black market. I can buy CBD, and THC products online in Oz illegally that I never thought would be possible, not that I need to apart from CBD.
I think the scene is still strong.
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VenerableHippie
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Well, we'll see you around then.
To be frank I 'm a bit jaded with 'the scene'. Most of the people I knew who smoked dope thought that's all they needed to do. And it wasn't enuf for me. In fact my friends on this site don't smoke any longer.
Also I have to be careful what I say because I have neighbours with a criminal mentality who snuck in my house and stole the pin to my PC. Then they had all my passwords and used them to steal my seedsman order. Then they posted a pic of my order on-site here.
So I guess what I 'm saying is that there are too many criminals around dope and it pays to keep quiet.
That's my take ... Ooroo!
VenerableHippie
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G'day Chi ... I like the bit about the seeds that are available in Oz. From a trustworthy breeder. I mean he won't rip you off and also has lots of good advice to help growing his product. I know guys who regularly achieve 3 plus pound each plant from this local seed.
seeded
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My gripe with LEDs is that while there has been massive improvement over the last decade the prices are still sky high. I know they used to be in the 3k range for bigger ones which now go for under half that but they've not kept pace with the price of technology reducing as the field matures. I get that they can last 5+ years and manufacturers are worried about selling themselves out of business but it seems like the lightbulb conspiracy this time around is to keep prices high because people are growing cannabis with their lights and will thus pay a premium which wouldn't be the case in any other field.
Those pics were well nice, thanks for sharing. Looks like it would have been a great smoke and tasty too by the sounds of things.
seeded
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Damn that sucks about your neighbours, what dicks! Thanks for letting me know about the serrated edge though, somehow I had never heard of it until just now but I guess that's what I get for living under a rock and staying away from online stuff for so long.
I'll begin a grow diary of sorts soon and stick around for a good while. I've got some well nice genetics to play with plus the first breeding project I have planned is to replicate some very old Amnesia Haze if it sprouts. The seeds are a good decade old now and it would be an utter shame to see it die off as quite a few put out the loveliest cotton candy terps, the main colas can be as fat as 1.25L coke bottles when dry and it's a well decent smoke too.
rod58
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seeded;n18098305 I'll begin a grow diary of sorts soon and stick around for a good while. I've got some well nice genetics to play with plus the first breeding project I have planned is to replicate some very old Amnesia Haze if it sprouts. The seeds are a good decade old now and it would be an utter shame to see it die off as quite a few put out the loveliest cotton candy terps said:
gee 47 years certainly puts you in the veteran category rod ,
thats some time indeed man ,
well done and good on you for persisting and prevailing ,
i think that length of time puts you in the status of legendary growers ,
which not many of us reach , i am definitely not there yet ,, still a few ladders and seasons to climb .
much respect man ...
thats some time indeed man ,
well done and good on you for persisting and prevailing ,
i think that length of time puts you in the status of legendary growers ,
which not many of us reach , i am definitely not there yet ,, still a few ladders and seasons to climb .
much respect man ...
rod58
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lol.. cheers Don . seems like just yesterday i scored a bag of seeds and raised them in those little aluminium pie containers and then into my first ever "patch" . i had no idea about male or female plants and of course there were very few , if any , people around that did have a clue ! still remember that first lot though ...
but , i've never missed a year over that time and i guess sometimes it bores me a bit . i've always , well nearly , been a sole trader , so i never get to share and discuss my year with someone else and i guess that's why i'm here .
I get to brag a bit about my grow to an extent here though i NEVER share it all . that's why i'm still a free man ! cheers .
its a lonely mission rod ,
i think thats why many of us are here too ,
at least we can hang out here to share our experience ,
i too have felt consoled with this and other places like this ...
i think thats why many of us are here too ,
at least we can hang out here to share our experience ,
i too have felt consoled with this and other places like this ...
VenerableHippie
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I just asked the Missus how long we'd been growing and She said 48 years. I recall I was on the dole (in the same state as you Rod) in the countryside and dope was a fascinating new thing. I hadn't smoked much. Wouldn't know Indica from Sativa in those days.
Can't recall where I got the seeds from but I had a few and put them into 20 litre oil drums (5 gallons actually) with a 50/50 mix of dried horse shit and sand and then applied Thrive religiously for a while. I had a spring nearby for water. The road there had no houses on it which was good because I went almost every day.
There was no flowering Thrive in those days. (I 'm organic if I grow now.)
Anyway, beginners luck they all grew good. Somehow I knew what males were and that they had to go ... and well ... I won't say what I did after that but it was good. Just what a young family on the dole needed.
Ooroo!
PS: My grows went to shit after that. And today I still refer to Mr Mallard for his much greater experience than mine. He was probably growing while I was working and raising a family. Right. Wal?
Can't recall where I got the seeds from but I had a few and put them into 20 litre oil drums (5 gallons actually) with a 50/50 mix of dried horse shit and sand and then applied Thrive religiously for a while. I had a spring nearby for water. The road there had no houses on it which was good because I went almost every day.
There was no flowering Thrive in those days. (I 'm organic if I grow now.)
Anyway, beginners luck they all grew good. Somehow I knew what males were and that they had to go ... and well ... I won't say what I did after that but it was good. Just what a young family on the dole needed.
Ooroo!
PS: My grows went to shit after that. And today I still refer to Mr Mallard for his much greater experience than mine. He was probably growing while I was working and raising a family. Right. Wal?
im not sure but i started pretty young so maybe vh ,
was probably 1981 i first started growing ,
im not sure the first ones were a success ,
i just grabbed some seeds from my brother in laws thai sticks ,
i figured he was paying for those , so i could probably grow some and sell it to him , hahaha
i hadnt even been high at that point , just liked growing stuff ,
its likely i didnt have a successful crop until 83 ,
but it was pretty good and i got a few pounds ,
some really cool purple buds too ,
i was toking by that point and that amount of pot went a fair way if i recall ...
was probably 1981 i first started growing ,
im not sure the first ones were a success ,
i just grabbed some seeds from my brother in laws thai sticks ,
i figured he was paying for those , so i could probably grow some and sell it to him , hahaha
i hadnt even been high at that point , just liked growing stuff ,
its likely i didnt have a successful crop until 83 ,
but it was pretty good and i got a few pounds ,
some really cool purple buds too ,
i was toking by that point and that amount of pot went a fair way if i recall ...
I grew up in a very horticultural family so I planted the first dope seed I ever saw, at a very young age, in 1977. I must have planted late in the season because it just flowered straight away and only grew a foot, with about 10 buds, but have been mostly hooked since. I did give up for about a decade at one stage though, the lost years.
The worst thing about this hobby is how secretive you have to be. It takes a toll. Why I am here, I guess. ICMag therapy.
The worst thing about this hobby is how secretive you have to be. It takes a toll. Why I am here, I guess. ICMag therapy.
rod58
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And i guess that says it for most of us here .
This last year i've grown several candy pie x sour bubble which i seeded back to the same and my plan this season is to feminise a whole heap .
thank you to " you know who you are " for the gift of these . they are not huge but are loaded with very fat , tight and sticky buds and for me i generally plant very late in the season and do not supply water . if they can't survive our hot dry summers then i don't want them . these have done extremely good during this very hot , dry period .
And now i'm going to pick and hang these babies . early as fuck !!
This last year i've grown several candy pie x sour bubble which i seeded back to the same and my plan this season is to feminise a whole heap .
thank you to " you know who you are " for the gift of these . they are not huge but are loaded with very fat , tight and sticky buds and for me i generally plant very late in the season and do not supply water . if they can't survive our hot dry summers then i don't want them . these have done extremely good during this very hot , dry period .
And now i'm going to pick and hang these babies . early as fuck !!
