Then how did you find out?
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Attacks Leave at Least 129 Dead in Paris
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Then how did you find out?
1000? 200,000? That's nothing, Germany alone has taken in nearly 1,000,000.
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Well worth a read
http://nypost.com/2015/11/14/its-time-for-obama-to-make-a-choice-lead-us-or-resign/
What is next ?
Fight back or get run over
Sundance
http://nypost.com/2015/11/14/its-time-for-obama-to-make-a-choice-lead-us-or-resign/
What is next ?
Fight back or get run over
Sundance
Martha Focker
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not really worth the 5 minutes it took to read.
in summation. this guy believes america to be the world police. obama to be the king of the world and leader of the world police. he believes that "terrorists" are an identifiable country that we can point out and attack. he believes the world war 3 is going on right now. which i agree on. he believes that world war 3 is being fought between "muslims" and the rest of the world based on the fact that "terrorists" come from "the middle east". (according to me ww3 is between the US and their allies and Russia and their allies). the author of this article believes that obama is responsible for the wars in iraq and afghanistan. obama is a bad leader. and that america in the guise of obama should take up his reigns as king of the world and lead the nato forces against iran and "terrorists" aka all the muslims.
I don't blame Muslims when they do what Muslims have been doing for 1,400 years. I blame the traitor Merkel and the rest of the European leaders for bringing 20 million of them in to destroy Europe. Time for a house cleaning.
when you can start ISIS.. and convince your own people and other peoples countries to go fight for them.. over religion you can convince them to go to see the virgins the stupid religion says they will see.. lol. I'm sure that wasn't the difficult part
they want to destroy the region so Saudi arabia can take it over prolly.. so then they can sell us oil cheap.
The problem with not intervening is that if everyone ignores the situation their organisation will grow, taking more areas of more countries, and the next thing you know the bombs will be going off on your own doorstep.
By then they may be stronger and more difficult to stop.
Look what happened pre- ww2 ... They were allowed to expand, gain territory and strength while everyone looked the other way and said " it's not our fight"...
Trouble is , by the time it was "our fight " the regime had gained such momentum, millions died in the process.
Difficult choices.
By then they may be stronger and more difficult to stop.
Look what happened pre- ww2 ... They were allowed to expand, gain territory and strength while everyone looked the other way and said " it's not our fight"...
Trouble is , by the time it was "our fight " the regime had gained such momentum, millions died in the process.
Difficult choices.
WWIII started during the Sochi Olympics with the NATO sponsored coupe in Ukraine. It has been going for over a year now. It is about keeping Russia from re-emerging as a world power. It is about maintaining the present economic alignment between western Europe and the U.S. It is about preventing an economic alignment from developing between western Europe and Asia which would leave the U.S. out of the loop.
The same people who defrauded America into invading Iraq are running the State Department. They want to reshape the Middle East. Obama doesn't seem to be in control of his State Department. The original plan was to overthrow Iraq, Syria, Libya, and Iran among others. It's still going on. The CIA has been using non government agencies (NGO's) to foment dissent and organize "color" revolutions in Egypt, Libya, Syria, and Iran. Tried it in Hong Kong too. Trying the same thing in Russia but the people are on to it.
If you're thinking in terms of liberals and conservatives you're stuck in the past. It's now neo-conservatives and neo-liberals who are trying to lead us into more war. Hillary is a war monger. People talking about Obama being a communist... WTF? ... he's a slave to Wall Street! His Attorney General, Eric Holder just returned to a plum job in the financial sector after working for years to protect the big banks from legal consequences for taking down our economy.
People speak of Muslims as if all Islam were one and the same. The jihadi terrorist phenomenon is from a blending and promoting of two Islamic fundamentalist schools of thought, Wahhabism, and Salafism, which took place in Saudi Arabia under King Faisal to counter the rise of Pan-Arab nationalism which was being promoted by Nasser in Egypt. Saudi Arabia is the source of radical Islam. The US has been working hand in hand with Saudi Arabia since the end of WWII. The CIA sponsors and supports the Muslim Brotherhood. Obama is CIA. Most Muslims consider ISIS to be scum.... and they are. ISIS are psychopath mercenaries amped up on amphetamine, and recruited with the promise of being able to rape women. And this is run by NATO through the CIA in an effort to take down Russia, break it apart into a cluster of squabbling smaller countries. The CIA tried it by using jihadis in Chechnya but Putin squelched that effort. Now the NATO alliance is doubling down on Syria.
Turn off your television. It's all lies.
The same people who defrauded America into invading Iraq are running the State Department. They want to reshape the Middle East. Obama doesn't seem to be in control of his State Department. The original plan was to overthrow Iraq, Syria, Libya, and Iran among others. It's still going on. The CIA has been using non government agencies (NGO's) to foment dissent and organize "color" revolutions in Egypt, Libya, Syria, and Iran. Tried it in Hong Kong too. Trying the same thing in Russia but the people are on to it.
If you're thinking in terms of liberals and conservatives you're stuck in the past. It's now neo-conservatives and neo-liberals who are trying to lead us into more war. Hillary is a war monger. People talking about Obama being a communist... WTF? ... he's a slave to Wall Street! His Attorney General, Eric Holder just returned to a plum job in the financial sector after working for years to protect the big banks from legal consequences for taking down our economy.
People speak of Muslims as if all Islam were one and the same. The jihadi terrorist phenomenon is from a blending and promoting of two Islamic fundamentalist schools of thought, Wahhabism, and Salafism, which took place in Saudi Arabia under King Faisal to counter the rise of Pan-Arab nationalism which was being promoted by Nasser in Egypt. Saudi Arabia is the source of radical Islam. The US has been working hand in hand with Saudi Arabia since the end of WWII. The CIA sponsors and supports the Muslim Brotherhood. Obama is CIA. Most Muslims consider ISIS to be scum.... and they are. ISIS are psychopath mercenaries amped up on amphetamine, and recruited with the promise of being able to rape women. And this is run by NATO through the CIA in an effort to take down Russia, break it apart into a cluster of squabbling smaller countries. The CIA tried it by using jihadis in Chechnya but Putin squelched that effort. Now the NATO alliance is doubling down on Syria.
Turn off your television. It's all lies.
Back in the day, before there were any Wahabis, Salafis, Soviet Union, U.S.A and there was not any C.I.A; Islam was already an Imperialist religion by principle, ever since it was funded.
How can you explain the fact of Muslim Caliphates and Dynasties way before the discovery of the Americas?
are you so duped up by RT news that your shallow analysis of Islam starts with the Wahabis and Salafists? seriously? LOL...
shit, that saying about "a little knowledge is a dangerous thing" has never been so true as it is today, with all these 'youtube and alternative news" psuedo-intellectuals parroting a bunch of propaganda.
What happened in Paris and what has been happening for a very long ass time has zero to do with Russia or the U.S; Islam will still want a world Caliphate with IS or without IS, whether it be Sunni or Shiite; it is the nature of the religion itself, to conquer and convert.
obviously not all persons who identify themselves as Muslims are actively trying to conquer the world and convert everyone; but that is exactly what their books call for.
lets not even get started on all the murders of Islam's greatest thinkers by Muslims themselves... Suhrawardi comes to mind; only if Muslims had gone after his teaching and not after the mental-midgets like the modern imans, the world would be a way better place for sure.
stop trying to find scapegoats for what Islam is doing to the world today, stop being fearful little boys and stop with all the pseudo-intellectualism already, it is not helping at all to solve the present issues as it only distorts the truth of the matter. grow up already.
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This horrible situation smells of Mossad and their Best Friends Saudi Arabia ...
They got their asses handed to them by the Russian AirForce .. All the weapons and mercenaries they lost in ISIS ... its all revenge ...
Israel bombing Syria the day b4 the massacre in Paris and testing out what A2DF system Russia really brought to Syria... S300... S400? who the hell knows... Israel was able to penetrate with Cruise Missile and couldn't provoke a Russian Response (yet) ...
Russia is trying to save the world from complete chaos ... Go Bomb the House of Al Saud back into a carpet riding genie ride... Russia should arm the Houthi rebels to the teeth and let them milk the Saudis into their own Vietnam ...
Anyone else think its very very strange ISIS has never even sneezed on Israel
USA, Israel, Saudi Arabia aka all new Countries VS OLD World ..Russia...Iran...China
Countries with 1000+ years of history vs Newbies that want to wreck havoc in the name of Fairy Tales
This horrible situation smells of Mossad and their Best Friends Saudi Arabia ...
They got their asses handed to them by the Russian AirForce .. All the weapons and mercenaries they lost in ISIS ... its all revenge ...
Israel bombing Syria the day b4 the massacre in Paris and testing out what A2DF system Russia really brought to Syria... S300... S400? who the hell knows... Israel was able to penetrate with Cruise Missile and couldn't provoke a Russian Response (yet) ...
Russia is trying to save the world from complete chaos ... Go Bomb the House of Al Saud back into a carpet riding genie ride... Russia should arm the Houthi rebels to the teeth and let them milk the Saudis into their own Vietnam ...
Anyone else think its very very strange ISIS has never even sneezed on Israel
USA, Israel, Saudi Arabia aka all new Countries VS OLD World ..Russia...Iran...China
Countries with 1000+ years of history vs Newbies that want to wreck havoc in the name of Fairy Tales
In light of the fact that the United States has a history of using Muslim extremists as proxy warriors against the Russians... And the fact that Russia has recently moved it's air force into Syria and is kicking ass on extremist Muslim mercenaries... I find the above statement to be somewhat absurd.
I never claimed to be a scholar of Islam, nor to provide an analysis of such. I only tried to provide a name to the beliefs of the Islamic extremist mercenaries who have turned Syria into a war zone, and a name to those who have funded and manipulated them since WWII.
I think that if most people are left to their own devices they'd just like to raise their families in peace.
No I'm not an Islamic scholar, but to claim that I purported to be one is a distraction, a straw man, and a common method of argument for some.
Has more to do with what you follow the Quran or the hadith.Most of the muslims are followers of the hadith, forbidden by the Quran btw.
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Martha Focker
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Has more to do with what you follow the Quran or the hadith.Most of the muslims are followers of the hadith, forbidden by the Quran btw.
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^^^ this guy gets it. most muslims you hear about aren't even real muslims. if you read the quran you would know. but they're probably like the christians and jews and other religious people who just listen to someone else interpreting these books for them and telling them what to do. it says right on page one of the quran that it's a book of allegories for those with eyes to see and ears to hear to use as a guide in the ways of being in the right.
What if these virgins are all just ugly boys? Bet that's a real erection killer when Allah throws them in the virgin pit
Speaking of Fairy Tales, I got one for you:
re-read your own posts
what are you talking about?
I never said, and much less implied you were an Islamic scholar, where did you get that from? your over-active imagination?
quite the contrary actually; as it is plain to see in my previous post that I clearly called your argument pseudo-intellectual and propaganda.
talk about straw man, uh?
Martha Focker
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didn't mean to thumbs up your post i was aiming for the quote button but i wasn't paying attention. don't want you to get the wrong idea.
anyway there's nothing in the quran about any virgins. this common misconception is what prompted me to read it. i know a lot of muslims and you do too, most muslims are quiet and invisible, so i was wondering how come they aren't all attacking and killing us. there's not a single word in there about going to heaven and getting 72 virgins. this is most likely govt propaganda to get you to hate muslims.
The same DEFECTIVE convert and conquer dynamic exists in every active religion including Christianity and Judaism.
Now we can take the culture of imperial brutality and apply it to many other cultures as well (How about those chinese and singapore drug laws?). The native Vietnamese held their own against the USA because they had the same capacity for ingenuity and savagery when it came to defending their INDIGENOUS lands.
What really bothers me about this, some powers use the volatility of the region and the volatility of the peoples as a means to personal gains.
The CIA does this, has done this, is on record for doing this, and uses the projection of various latent social fears on a vilified segment to allow for the foreign policies we have.
If you think the CIA doesn't control the media, your ignorant. They testified at senate committees regarding these facts, do due diligence.
Religion, science and politics are only valid in a humanitarian aspect when they benefit society and that is why mankind created them yet.
The fact that it is a part of our nature that those things can be used against humanity doesn't make it our only evolutionary inheritance, we can transcend this, but it won't happen sitting around like a bunch of fucking assholes judging and arguing each others religions, science and politics.
It only will get fixed when we put our focus on cause and effect, problem and solution, with all the humanity involved being given equal consideration, or we kill everyone not like us.
Now we can take the culture of imperial brutality and apply it to many other cultures as well (How about those chinese and singapore drug laws?). The native Vietnamese held their own against the USA because they had the same capacity for ingenuity and savagery when it came to defending their INDIGENOUS lands.
What really bothers me about this, some powers use the volatility of the region and the volatility of the peoples as a means to personal gains.
The CIA does this, has done this, is on record for doing this, and uses the projection of various latent social fears on a vilified segment to allow for the foreign policies we have.
If you think the CIA doesn't control the media, your ignorant. They testified at senate committees regarding these facts, do due diligence.
Religion, science and politics are only valid in a humanitarian aspect when they benefit society and that is why mankind created them yet.
The fact that it is a part of our nature that those things can be used against humanity doesn't make it our only evolutionary inheritance, we can transcend this, but it won't happen sitting around like a bunch of fucking assholes judging and arguing each others religions, science and politics.
It only will get fixed when we put our focus on cause and effect, problem and solution, with all the humanity involved being given equal consideration, or we kill everyone not like us.
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