-
ICMag with help from Landrace Warden and The Vault is running a NEW contest in November! You can check it here. Prizes are seeds & forum premium access. Come join in!
armstrong stripped of world titles
- Thread starter lost in a sea
- Start date
T
toughmudderdave
If any of you have ever seen the original "Rollerball", this almost matches the efforts by the corporations to rid the sport of the star athlete.
I think there is a bit of Cognitive Dissonance in some people on this issue. On the one hand, people seem to concede that "everyone was doping", but then they get outraged that LA is being accused... If "Everyone was doping" how would he win clean?
The Stock Impreza doesnt win against the Impreza with a Nitrous Oxide kit and souped up engine.
His teammates are no better though... Dirty Grassing scum.
The Stock Impreza doesnt win against the Impreza with a Nitrous Oxide kit and souped up engine.
His teammates are no better though... Dirty Grassing scum.
Sundance
member
The Radioshack-Nissan-Trek team has confirmed that Johan Bruyneel has been dismissed from his role as general manager of the team as a consequence of the USADA doping investigation and the revelations of the USADA reasoned decision documents.
“Acting in mutual agreement, on October 12 Leopard SA and Johan Bruyneel decided to end their collaboration. From this day on, Johan Bruyneel will no longer act in the position of General Manager of cycling team RADIOSHACK NISSAN TREK,” a statement from the Luxembourg-based team reads.
“The Reasoned Decision published by the USADA included a number of testimonies as a result of their investigation. In light of these testimonies, both parties feel it is necessary to make this decision since Johan Bruyneel can no longer direct the Team in an efficient and comfortable way. His departure is desirable to ensure the serenity and cohesiveness within the Team.”
“RADIOSHACK NISSAN TREK wishes to thank Johan Bruyneel for his dedication and devotion since his arrival in the Team.”
"The USADA investigation does not concern the activities of Mr. Bruyneel while managing the RADIOSHACK NISSAN TREK Team. Johan Bruyneel contests the validity of the procedure as well as the charges against him."
The Radioshack-Nissan-Trek team described Bruyneel as the most successful directeur sportif in cycling history, but seven of the Tour de France victories he helped to direct are set to be nullified. It appears that Bruyneel’s role in cycling has now been consigned to history.
Bruyneel managed Lance Armstrong's teams throughout the height of the Texan’s career after his own racing career with the ONCE team. He has been accused by the USADA report of playing an active part in the doping schemes that allowed him to win seven Tours de France. The Belgian Cycling federation is currently investigating the charges put forward by USADA, and could hand Bruyneel a lifetime ban.
USADA's reasoned decision in the Armstrong case described Bruyneel as a key player in the organised doping which took place at the US Postal Service and Discovery Channel teams. Bruyneel has constantly denied such charges.
The overwhelming evidence in this case is that Johan Bruyneel was intimately involved in all significant details of the U.S. Postal team’s doping program. "He alerted the team to the likely presence of testers. He communicated with Dr. Ferrari about his stars’ doping programs," the document said.
"He was on top of the details for organizing blood transfusion programs before the major Tours, and he knew when athletes needed to take EPO to regenerate their blood supply after extracting blood. He was present when blood transfusions were given. He even personally provided drugs to the riders on occasion."
On Thursday Fabian Cancellara raised doubts about Bruyneel remaining as the team manager at RadioShack-Nissan-Trek. Those doubts have now been answered.
Step back to concentrate on defence
In a message on his personal website, Bruyneel said he was stepping back from the role of team manager to prepare for his impending arbitration case with USADA. He claimed that USADA's decision to publish information from their investigation may have prejudiced his case.
"I have decided to step back from my official team activities in order to concentrate on my defence, and in order to shield the RadioShack - Nissan - Trek cycling team from unnecessary distractions," he said.
"I am surprised and extremely disappointed that USADA released information in the public domain relating to their pending case against me before I had been given any opportunity to review the evidence and provide my defence against it. I still hope to be able to defend myself in a forum free from bias, although I now fear that USADA’s calculated action may have irreversibly prejudiced my case. It is a troubling facet of USADA’s approach to this case that it appears not to respect basic principles such as the right to be heard and the presumption of innocence."
"I hope everyone will understand that in order to preserve the integrity of the on-going legal proceedings, I cannot unfortunately make any further comment for the time being. Once again, I would like to thank all of those who have reached out to me offering their support in these difficult days – it is very much appreciated."
Time for the push back
This is far from over - and way too early to make any kind of judgement
I think the USADA are a bunch of assholes - I am in full agreement with the criticisms leveled against them in the article above ... and elsewhere
The UCI has two weeks to respond
Lets see how Lance responds too
Sundance
“Acting in mutual agreement, on October 12 Leopard SA and Johan Bruyneel decided to end their collaboration. From this day on, Johan Bruyneel will no longer act in the position of General Manager of cycling team RADIOSHACK NISSAN TREK,” a statement from the Luxembourg-based team reads.
“The Reasoned Decision published by the USADA included a number of testimonies as a result of their investigation. In light of these testimonies, both parties feel it is necessary to make this decision since Johan Bruyneel can no longer direct the Team in an efficient and comfortable way. His departure is desirable to ensure the serenity and cohesiveness within the Team.”
“RADIOSHACK NISSAN TREK wishes to thank Johan Bruyneel for his dedication and devotion since his arrival in the Team.”
"The USADA investigation does not concern the activities of Mr. Bruyneel while managing the RADIOSHACK NISSAN TREK Team. Johan Bruyneel contests the validity of the procedure as well as the charges against him."
The Radioshack-Nissan-Trek team described Bruyneel as the most successful directeur sportif in cycling history, but seven of the Tour de France victories he helped to direct are set to be nullified. It appears that Bruyneel’s role in cycling has now been consigned to history.
Bruyneel managed Lance Armstrong's teams throughout the height of the Texan’s career after his own racing career with the ONCE team. He has been accused by the USADA report of playing an active part in the doping schemes that allowed him to win seven Tours de France. The Belgian Cycling federation is currently investigating the charges put forward by USADA, and could hand Bruyneel a lifetime ban.
USADA's reasoned decision in the Armstrong case described Bruyneel as a key player in the organised doping which took place at the US Postal Service and Discovery Channel teams. Bruyneel has constantly denied such charges.
The overwhelming evidence in this case is that Johan Bruyneel was intimately involved in all significant details of the U.S. Postal team’s doping program. "He alerted the team to the likely presence of testers. He communicated with Dr. Ferrari about his stars’ doping programs," the document said.
"He was on top of the details for organizing blood transfusion programs before the major Tours, and he knew when athletes needed to take EPO to regenerate their blood supply after extracting blood. He was present when blood transfusions were given. He even personally provided drugs to the riders on occasion."
On Thursday Fabian Cancellara raised doubts about Bruyneel remaining as the team manager at RadioShack-Nissan-Trek. Those doubts have now been answered.
Step back to concentrate on defence
In a message on his personal website, Bruyneel said he was stepping back from the role of team manager to prepare for his impending arbitration case with USADA. He claimed that USADA's decision to publish information from their investigation may have prejudiced his case.
"I have decided to step back from my official team activities in order to concentrate on my defence, and in order to shield the RadioShack - Nissan - Trek cycling team from unnecessary distractions," he said.
"I am surprised and extremely disappointed that USADA released information in the public domain relating to their pending case against me before I had been given any opportunity to review the evidence and provide my defence against it. I still hope to be able to defend myself in a forum free from bias, although I now fear that USADA’s calculated action may have irreversibly prejudiced my case. It is a troubling facet of USADA’s approach to this case that it appears not to respect basic principles such as the right to be heard and the presumption of innocence."
"I hope everyone will understand that in order to preserve the integrity of the on-going legal proceedings, I cannot unfortunately make any further comment for the time being. Once again, I would like to thank all of those who have reached out to me offering their support in these difficult days – it is very much appreciated."
Time for the push back
This is far from over - and way too early to make any kind of judgement
I think the USADA are a bunch of assholes - I am in full agreement with the criticisms leveled against them in the article above ... and elsewhere
The UCI has two weeks to respond
Lets see how Lance responds too
Sundance
Lost a nut. Lost 7 Titles.
A
Alfred
What happens to the 7 titles?
Are they given to the 2nd place getter? If so, do they then investigate whether they were also drug cheats? etc. etc.
Or do the titles just become void?
Are they given to the 2nd place getter? If so, do they then investigate whether they were also drug cheats? etc. etc.
Or do the titles just become void?
UCI backed USADA's case and stripped Armstrong's titles today. The UCI head went so far as to say Lance has no place in cycling. He has been dropped by every sponsor along with some filing lawsuits to recoup payments. He has also stepped down as head of his charity foundation.
I'll bet Lance is happy he chose to try his 'case' in the public forum rather than arbitration. It's working out so well thus far.
a.
I'll bet Lance is happy he chose to try his 'case' in the public forum rather than arbitration. It's working out so well thus far.
a.
So the French capitulate again? Big surprise.
The guy WON the races because he had the most talent and worked his ass off! And he never tested positive. He played by the rules.
But, Armstrong made a lot of enemies.
What a sad day.
Fuck the Tour de France and all of the pussies that don't believe.
R.Fortune
The guy WON the races because he had the most talent and worked his ass off! And he never tested positive. He played by the rules.
But, Armstrong made a lot of enemies.
What a sad day.
Fuck the Tour de France and all of the pussies that don't believe.
R.Fortune
He did WIN the races. Good job forgetting about the whole biological passport, however.
a.
gig is up. was a good run . enjoy the rest of your life bro.
weeddaddy50
Member
Kinda......sucks he was tested over 530 times in his career....never tested positive....and is guilty becasue of a report.....Really?.....he is the most drug tested athlete in history...and never tested postive.
immaculate
Member
Baseball, football, cycling, track, cannabis...most all of them are on performance enhancing drugs!
Protea
Member
It sucks yes,but if he knew of the tests, when and for what he would be tested his professional doping team could hide or discuise all sorts of blood values.
The news said a texas promotion company wants their bonus money back. I think i herd 12million they gave him for winning. They didnt say how much they were sueing for though. He's been picked at like road kill.
his EGO got too big and he pissed people that were close to him off. Gotta stay humble when you're a cheater. Also, he had so many doctors and blood transfusions in addition to micro dosing at a certain time of night so it'd be out of his system by morning when tested. That's how he passed drug tests.
vertigo0007
Member
I am in no way surprised that a "case" brought fourth by the us would consist of lies, innuendo, he said she said, and no proof. Guilty until proven innocent...... 501 times.
GO USA! Or should i say hUbriS A
GO USA! Or should i say hUbriS A
T
toughmudderdave
This is/was a smear campaign/witch hunt plain and simple.
gonzo`
Member
So.....what you're saying is George W Bush took steroids--drugs persecuted by Puritan hypocrites for immoral and stupid reasons--just like 90% of his competitors?
I don't get it.
You're really trying to compare the biggest shitbag President in U.S. history to the greatest, most gifted and accomplished athlete cycling has ever known?
I don't get it.
You're really trying to compare the biggest shitbag President in U.S. history to the greatest, most gifted and accomplished athlete cycling has ever known?
